Suspecting issues??

Yeah they don't look bad at all. I would just stay the course man to many changes brings stress. Your temps, humidity and light are all good.

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I cant see the leaf health in purple light but at least in purple they look ok. They are currently growing new tops in the pic. Lots of plants lower their leaves as they sprout new growth. They move their leaves up and down often. I had posted the dutch passion stop motion full plant grow vids. You can see the leaves move like that through the whole grow. If you are getting new growth you are headed in the right direction.

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Cool,i watched the timelapses, i notice they only move a little bit, so im trying to figure out when my plants drooping to much, and then just drooping as it should. I think theyre back on track now, the past couple days theyve looked extremely sad, more droop than any time lapse i could find on that website, now theyre fluttering as they the time lapses show. I mean, im a new grower so im not knowledgable, but when your plant looks lifeless, like the leaves are hanging off a clothes line, i know for sure, theyre not supposed to droop that much, so that freaked me the hell out. LOL. I am getting new growth, just extremely slow, and the plant droops insane at night compared to what it used too. but by day its back to about half way where it used to be. i just hope it returns to original perkiness(if it has too?)(Unless this minor droop is the new normal), it feels weird seeing it like this the past 3 days lol.

Old look^^ New look^^^

There is new growth, although, shes growing slow as hell now. But shes looking decent this morning i think shes making her bounceback.

This is why i posted the thread, seeing your plant so long like it looks on the left, then having it look like the right picture for a week scares melol

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Cool,i watched the timelapses, i notice they only move a little bit, so im trying to figure out when my plants drooping to much, and then just drooping as it should. I think theyre back on track now, the past couple days theyve looked extremely sad, more droop than any time lapse i could find on that website, now theyre fluttering as they the time lapses show. I mean, im a new grower so im not knowledgable, but when your plant looks lifeless, like the leaves are hanging off a clothes line, i know for sure, theyre not supposed to droop that much, so that freaked me the hell out. LOL. I am getting new growth, just extremely slow, and the plant droops insane at night compared to what it used too. but by day its back to about half way where it used to be. i just hope it returns to original perkiness(if it has too?)(Unless this minor droop is the new normal), it feels weird seeing it like this the past 3 days lol.

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Too much drooping and those ribbed looking leaves usually mean soggy roots or too much nutrients in the medium.

I had a veg plant that the lowest 4 leaves kept looking like arms stiff and down to the sides while the upper leaves looked healthy and vibrant. I let her dry out an extra day and the lower leaves started to stretch back out like normal. I was just watering a little too soon and by the 3 rd time it was affecting her roots.

Also was a bit colder lately so the bottom of the pot was wetter than expected. I adjusted the fans and exhaust to warm things up some too. Envirenment is key.

You can adjust for the seasons by adding more or less large perlite to have pots dry out faster or slower as needed. I like 2-3 days with mature plants between watering.

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Old look^^ New look^^^

There is new growth, although, shes growing slow as hell now. But shes looking decent this morning i think shes making her bounceback.

This is why i posted the thread, seeing your plant so long like it looks on the left, then having it look like the right picture for a week scares melol

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The first pic in natural color shows stressed top leaves from either too much light, heat or wind maybe.

The second purple pic shows the tops not so stressed but the lowers too droopy.

If your watering has not been proper and consistant that would happen like i was saying in my last comment.

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Cool,i watched the timelapses, i notice they only move a little bit, so im trying to figure out when my plants drooping to much, and then just drooping as it should. I think theyre back on track now, the past couple days theyve looked extremely sad, more droop than any time lapse i could find on that website, now theyre fluttering as they the time lapses show. I mean, im a new grower so im not knowledgable, but when your plant looks lifeless, like the leaves are hanging off a clothes line, i know for sure, theyre not supposed to droop that much, so that freaked me the hell out. LOL. I am getting new growth, just extremely slow, and the plant droops insane at night compared to what it used too. but by day its back to about half way where it used to be. i just hope it returns to original perkiness(if it has too?)(Unless this minor droop is the new normal), it feels weird seeing it like this the past 3 days lol.

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Kool video !

Definitely appreciate all the feedback you guys have given me, even if it feels like you guys are repeating yourselves, you guys have taught me a shit ton, waking up pretty demotivated at this shit some days, i come on here, you guys smack me back into shape and i feel good to go again, definitely. seriously this plant would be dead if i didnt come here. this is the one ive pretty much been having problems with since i came here. So you guys have done good work keeping her alive, LOL. Lights moved, Temps fixed, were lettin er run!

This is a difficult learning curve for me. I dont understand why i can do amazing things with technology, or even something more difficult than watering a plant. But when it comes to watering a plant its like its a whole new world. like wtf. its just a F***KING plant. LOL. I mean, bad plant aside, the rest i havent really mentioned, look good!

So this plant came in the same blue cheese seed package, but looks different!?!? You guys see anything i dont? :D



SORRY, more light shots, i dont really ever take pics under normal light, i will though from now on.

I even grew my first healthy rootzone:(i actually may have gone a little far, a little rootbound?idek)


i cant be discouraged, im making bold moves. but man this can frustrate the living hell out of me.

Would this work to calibrate a PH pen?i keep fucking forgetting to get distilled water. LOL

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Would this work to calibrate a PH pen?i keep fucking forgetting to get distilled water. LOL

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Aqua obliviously ur man here but I say no, I have cked multiple varieties of bottled water and most were inconsistent at best. Even some ppm higher than my tap water . My opinion is RO or distilled water only.

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Would this work to calibrate a PH pen?i keep fucking forgetting to get distilled water. LOL

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What pen do you have? Most good ones use 2 or sometimes even 3 point calibration and require ph7 and ph4 buffer solution. Water wont work. At the very least even cheap pens will use ph7 buffer to calibrate.

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Would this work to calibrate a PH pen?i keep fucking forgetting to get distilled water. LOL

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No it is RO with minerals added back.

What are you using to calibrate it? The little packets?

If you want to ghetto verify it using tap take like 250ml of tap water and add like 1/2 tsp of baking soda. That should all but wipe out any other influence and you should get about 8.4 to 8.5 ph give or take

Moshmen said:

Aqua obliviously ur man here but I say no, I have cked multiple varieties of bottled water and most were inconsistent at best. Even some ppm higher than my tap water . My opinion is RO or distilled water only.

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Ill take ur advice too buddy! i believe that! ive heard the same, i heard bottled water isnt the way to go. illl go grab some distilled today! even grab that calibration solution.

Aqua Man said:

You want to ghetto verify is using tap take like 250ml of tap water and add like 1/2 tsp of baking soda. That shouldn't almost all but wipe out any other influence and you should get about 8.4 to 8.5 ph give or take

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Appreciate it! just trying to use what i had you know?but i want to be accurate, so ima grab some distilled today! I am using the little packets!

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Ill take ur advice too buddy! i believe that! ive heard the same, i heard bottled water isnt the way to go. illl go grab some distilled today! even grab that calibration solution.




Appreciate it! just trying to use what i had you know?but i want to be accurate, so ima grab some distilled today! I am using the little packets!

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Good plan

Dirtbag said:

What pen do you have? Most good ones use 2 or sometimes even 3 point calibration and require ph7 and ph4 buffer solution. Water wont work. At the very least even cheap pens will use ph7 buffer to calibrate.

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The cheap ones come with some crystals that you dissolve in distilled water. I use a cheap one at home but I ran a powder coat paint line and e coat paint line for years so I have access to the good equipment to ck if needed.
If you wanna be accurate a hand held pen isn’t the way to go. But is more than accurate enuff for a grow

You should never put a ph probe into pure distilled water. It creates a strong reverse osmotic pressure and draws minerals out of the probe causing it to read slow. greatly shortens its usable lifespan.

Edit; Nevermind, I see you are using the buffer packets in distilled... carry on...

Moshmen said:

The cheap ones come with some crystals that you dissolve in distilled water. I use a cheap one at home but I ran a powder coat paint line and e coat paint line for years so I have access to the good equipment to ck if needed.
If you wanna be accurate a hand held pen isn’t the way to go

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Agreed... Also you don't need to be dead on. Especially in soil... There is almost no need to ph in almost every case. Sometimes it's needed but in that case I would a better water source is a better option.

Dirtbag said:

You should never put a ph probe into pure distilled water. It creates a strong reverse osmotic pressure and draws minerals out of the probe causing it to read slow. greatly shortens its usable lifespan.

Edit; Nevermind, I see you are using the buffer packets in distilled... carry on...

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You can rinse em... And easy to make your own storage and renewal solution... Potassium chloride and distilled water. You can buy a pound for like $10 and make enough for your lifetime and you kids kids kids lifetime.

What would a more accurate way to get water ph be then other than a pen? is there something better i can get?

Dirtbag said:

You should never put a ph probe into pure distilled water. It creates a strong reverse osmotic pressure and draws minerals out of the probe causing it to read slow. greatly shortens its usable lifespan.

Edit; Nevermind, I see you are using the buffer packets in distilled... carry on...

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May be that’s why we go thru a probe now and then we prolly ck our own RO water 10 times an hour! Lol