Negative effects of vinegar for ph down

Deadstill · Jul 16, 2020

Aqua Man said:
That's because AN is straight phosphoric acid. Even better is just order 85% food grade for a fraction of the price of AN. They just dilute it (not as much as others) and then raise the price... Nute companies always looking for a way to gouge consumers.

That's a really good idea man! I'll do that next time. I got the biggest bottle of AN pH down I could find last time I bought some was over 2 years ago it lasts so long, so I reckon I'll do this next time I run out! Thanks for the idea!

Slap · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
Last question why can’t I mix up a citric acid solution from fruits. Like oranges lemons and limes? Just filter out any pulp n seeds?

I squeeze a tad bit of lemon in my water, but not after I feed. Seems to work fine. I grow outdoors in fabric pots.

MIMedGrower · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
Tap water in my area consist mostly of calcium and fluoride I wonder if that hardness over it sent my ladies into that frenzy not so much the Ph. Filtered watered from now on lol I’m racking my brain

No matter how hard your water is unless its pretty much concrete one watering does not affect medium ph.

Or most likely all of the watering only wont affect medium ph. Its just water.

Nutrient solutions have better immediate uptake when ph’d.

In potting soil vinegar is actually good for this as it temporarily acidifies a solution that is too high out of range then breaks up and doesnt continually acidify the pot.

Beachwalker · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
Tap water in my area consist mostly of calcium and fluoride I wonder if that hardness over it sent my ladies into that frenzy not so much the Ph. Filtered watered from now on lol I’m racking my brain

My tap water pH is also very high at 8.9/100ppm, if I use it unadjusted it also sends my plants into a "frenzy" with all kinds of weird growth and negative effects

Do yourself a favor, spend eight bucks & get a bag of citric acid and some pH test strips or drops and you'll be happy you did, and your plants will thank you too!

Edinburgh · Jul 22, 2020

Earth juice works ok, watered down white vinegar can help, but yea citric acid.

Brofessor · Jul 22, 2020

Another option. Great article

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frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

i been using the earth juice for last few watering and they have fully revived. I will check into the actual bag of citric acid.

Beachwalker said:
My tap water pH is also very high at 8.9/100ppm, if I use it unadjusted it also sends my plants into a "frenzy" with all kinds of weird growth and negative effects

Do yourself a favor, spend eight bucks & get a bag of citric acid and some pH test strips or drops and you'll be happy you did, and your plants will thank you too!

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
i been using the earth juice for last few watering and they have fully revived. I will check into the actual bag of citric acid.

How stable do you think earth juice ph down is?

Aqua Man · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
How stable do you think earth juice ph down is?

Are you using this for soil or hydro?

Earth juice is citric acid. But like most nutrient companies is marketed as some BS miracle in a bottle designed to separate you from your money. It's citric acid diluted down to 10% so buy a bag of citric acid as @Beachwalker suggested and dilute it to 11% with distilled water. Then slap a fancy label with a bunch of bullshit claims and resell it for $40 a bottle as a better earth juice product. Probably cost ya about a nickle per bottle to make.

It breaks down fast and is suitable for soil. I wouldn't touch the stuff in hydro

Aqua Man · Jul 22, 2020

Incase you don't believe me.

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

Aqua Man said:
Are you using this for soil or hydro?

Earth juice is citric acid. But like most nutrient companies is marketed as some BS miracle in a bottle designed to separate you from your money. It's citric acid diluted down to 10% so buy a bag of citric acid as @Beachwalker suggested and dilute it to 11% with distilled water. Then slap a fancy label with a bunch of bullshit claims and resell it for $40 a bottle as a better earth juice product. Probably cost ya about a nickle per bottle to make.

It breaks down fast and is suitable for soil. I wouldn't touch the stuff in hydro

appreciate the honesty here!! I’m gonna stop by my local garden store and grab a bag! I believe you man lol I just spent 24 bucks on the earth juice was tryna get my money worth. is there a conversion chart on how to dilute properly?

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

Aqua Man said:
Incase you don't believe me.

I believe you mane. It’s kinda like 420 cleaner for pipes they up charge you but essentially it’s just rock salt, lemon and alcohols crazy how a fancy sticker makes you spend the money lol! Marketing can’t knock the hustle only the game!

Aqua Man · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
appreciate the honesty here!! I’m gonna stop by my local garden store and grab a bag! I believe you man lol I just spent 24 bucks on the earth juice was tryna get my money worth. is there a conversion chart on how to dilute properly?

@Beachwalker could probably tell ya.

Personally I would mix 10:1 by weight.

10 grams of citric acid powder to 100 grams of distilled water. This will give you the same 10% solution of earth juice.

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

Aqua Man said:
@Beachwalker could probably tell ya.

Personally I would mix 10:1 by weight.

10 grams of citric acid powder to 100 grams of distilled water. This will give you the same 10% solution of earth juice.

So I roughly need 37 grams of powder per gallon to make the 10 percent ration. Its 3785 grams in a gallon.

Aqua Man · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
So I roughly need 37 grams of powder per gallon to make the 10 percent ration. Its 3785 grams in a gallon.

Yes

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

Aqua Man said:
Yes

man over thinking spent $24 bucks when there was a $10 solution live n let learn!

frequentfleyer · Jul 22, 2020

frequentfleyer said:
man over thinking spent $24 bucks when there was a $10 solution live n let learn!

Earth juice got me once and one time only!! That’s for the schooling everyone maybe we can help the next person lol

Aqua Man · Jul 22, 2020

10lb bag $25 about 4500grams.

Makes about 120gal of citric acid ph down. Now you tell me who is laughing... Im gonna guess earth juice.
https://www.amazon.com/Milliard-Cit...ade&qid=1595445256&sprefix=citric+acid&sr=8-4

frequentfleyer · Jul 28, 2020

Got ph back inline now! Here’s a video for you peeps 38 dAys into flower.. (I do not own copy rights )

Frankster · Mar 25, 2021

Aqua Man said:
agree with above 2 posters. If in hydro use phosphoric or sulfuric acid. If soil Citric IMO

What about ascorbic acid, do you think there might be some benefit to diversifying the acids a bit, and that ascorbic acids could offer some benefit in this department?

I used a bit of vinegar actually to spray down my plant pots, before I start putting the microbe mixture, to start some good microbes in there before I transfer them later in the season, I want to ensure there pathogen free, especially powdery mildew.

Negative effects of vinegar for ph down

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