Madmax
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Growing beautifully bro.shes filling up in there quickly..
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Time to talk about growing pattern! Specifically light, because this is by far the most interesting topic to me.
Bugbee identifies 9 primary factors to consider when optimizing the environment for a plant. I don't remember them all, but the one he is most interested in is light. I think nutes are mostly solved, or at least 85%+ of the way there. CO2, temperature, and humidity are all very well studied. Air movement, yes. Oxygen at the root level, yes. Microorganisms in the soil is getting there.
In terms of light, there are four main factors I can identify: timing, intensity, direction of the source, and spectrum.
With regards to understanding the optimal spectrum, I am VERY interested in learning how the sun differs in various places and seasons, since plants seem to like the sun, more or less.
So this article, which is so cutting edge it's from the god damn future, is pretty interesting to me: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016819232030143X
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When I read this paper, and others on far red, I think I see a couple of things. First, I have a strong suspicion that we are underrating just how much far red tropical plants get. I think that has something to do with why things grow there so well (as opposed to trying to get similar solar intensity...I don't think it's just intensity at all). Two, far red sends signals to plants that they need to grow faster because they are in the shade via phytochrome. At least, that is what several papers from the 70s think.
So I am overindexing on far red if that possible. I am running 3 of these: https://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Far-Red-700nm-Grow-Light-Kit-20-High-Efficiency-Initiator-Single-Light/133268554971?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=3630999c8d304c5e85dbc3eca301abdd&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&mehot=none&sd=133268554971&itm=133268554971&pmt=1&noa=1&pg=2380057&brand=Unbranded&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:d6979178-dc16-11ea-bcb2-74dbd1809341|parentrq:df5a99791730a9e53846888fffffe4e4|iid:1
That is quite a bit of far red as far as I can tell. Almost 100 diodes where before I was using like 6 in my P1500. Like 16 watts worth. This will be an interesting experiment.
I will also do more experimentation with UV, perhaps from a relatively early age, because I am convinced it has something to do with terpenes in not just pot but plants generally.
This is a good video on far red:
The fact that you're using information from Utah State University makes me laugh. They do have a really good agricultural program though.
Do you have a diary?I'm amazed at your progress so far. I started my first grow on the 16th and haven't seen near the amount of progress that you have. Granted this has been an experimental grow using some seeds from some seedy weed. Still waiting on my actual seed order to come in ... apparently it was intercepted in Chicago. Thank god for guaranteed delivery.
Do you have a diary?
H, sorry to intrude, I am on my first grow, was considering how to get the most from my plants, and was interested in edibles... do you have a link for your gummy recipe please ?Milson......you need to consider making gummies. I have a great recipe and they are much better for pain/discomfort than smoking. I’ll put up a recipe in my thread. And you don’t have to bother with making hash.
Yes! Kali China smells like old five spice powder atm lol it's so weird.Any of them putting off a killer stem rub yet?
Thanks! I'm so curious to see how your sweet zombies react to defoliation. The ridiculous branching on this girl has been a shock.Thoroughly enjoying the grow.......... I'm rooting for the Sweet Zombie. LOL
H, sorry to intrude, I am on my first grow, was considering how to get the most from my plants, and was interested in edibles... do you have a link for your gummy recipe please ?
Did you start on September 16 or August 16?I started one on paper. I suppose I could write something here. Would definitely be useful to get feedback from you guys.
You need to get them up off the tent floor creat an air gap under them warmer dryer roots aids in plant health regards Od .After their first haircut. Cheese is doing some extra veg. This is midway through day 1 of flower (31 days since cotyledons).
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2 x Viparspectra P1500. The light is maybe...16 inches? Tbh I just use my light meter for lux and don't break out the measuring stick often but I can check today.What light you got them under bro and how far away is it
Cheers max