Cheese (Seedsman), Chemdog (Nirvana), Kali China (Ace), Sweet Zombie (Expert), Zamaldelica x Kali China (Ace)

[Milson]

Chemdog ours is from the west coast something crossed with dog bud they say dog bud have u so high u roll over like a dog lol View attachment 1032749

Beautiful plant. The one I have has shown good vigor so far, so I'm hopeful!

 

[Milson]

Start of day 28 since cotyledons. I think they mostly look fine. They will be back in their own tent in a couple days and away from my wife's banana plants, which are bug magnets. I've been using azamax and DEnto deal with that, as well as a copper fungicide because I swear these banana plants. Once they are stabilized in there I am thinking to flip. Cheese will get another week or so of veg to catch up.

Check out the stem on sweet zombie! Middle back.

 

[Milson]

Start of day 28 since cotyledons. I think they mostly look fine. They will be back in their own tent in a couple days and away from my wife's banana plants, which are bug magnets. I've been using azamax and DEnto deal with that, as well as a copper fungicide because I swear these banana plants. Once they are stabilized in there I am thinking to flip. Cheese will get another week or so of veg to catch up. View attachment 1033873
Check out the stem on sweet zombie! Middle back. View attachment 1033874

I feel like these definitely look better than my last round at this stage. Hoping I can flip the in another few days...Kali China has some stuff going on so I need to get her right before I flip. I would also like everyone to get just a little taller...

I also raised my lights and put them to full blast. I hope this helps with penetration.

I am planning to give defoliation a better go this time. I will listen to the Rasta Jeff podcast @sshz recommends and see if I can put together a game plan.

 

[Milson]

So this is the podcast I will be taking as some guidance based on both @sshz's advice and my personal observation. This also comes from @MHippie's thoughts on fan leaves. In short, I am pretty sure he is right and I think Rasta Jeff agrees with him. Having watched plants all the way through once, I see what they end up doing with the leaves. It's basically impossible to get me to take advice until I know exactly why I should take that advice, but now I am on board.

So step one is going to be to clean up that first shot you see above. I will do that tomorrow morning. Then I will pull off a couple fan leaves from each plant at the start of flower (other than Cheese, who obviously has less vigor) and see how the plants react. I have noticed that pretty much all of them have got a few of exactly the kind of fan leaves he is talking about, and their vigor and propensity for leaves looks high, so I figure it won't hurt me worse than I hurt myself last grow and so far I am looking okay, so....

Fun times!

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[Milson]

Roots through the bottom of a 3 gallon pot at twenty eight days since cotyledons. I am happy about that. My last plants had nowhere near this root vigor. The autopsy on their pots after was...I mean I fucked up pretty good. So I think this is way better.

 

[Milson]

Yeah all these girls look ready to stretch except Cheese. Today is the final day of the current regimen for everyone except Cheese, who has her roots sorted now and just needs a bit.

Cheese

Chemdog

Kali China

Sweet Zombie

Zamaldelica x Kali China

sorry for the feet

 

[tomatoesarecooltoo]

Looking good

 

[Madmax]

Gee theyre getting along qik......I bet your a good runner Milson..

 

[Milson]

Gee theyre getting along qik......I bet your a good runner Milson..

Thanks Max, I am pleased with the speed of growth. Trying to run it as basically pure coco for the first couple weeks was one of the main adjustments I made this time around, because coco is just so damn fast in early veg (lets you maximize the tender, growing roots without stressing them is my theory). Now that they have taken into the super soil layer as well I am hopeful they will be able to manage their own nutrient needs more easily by having a predictable nutrient-rich saturation layer and a coco layer on top of that with a nutrient density that fades as the plant gets higher to the surface....unless I have just water a bit to try to even it out. If that makes sense.

So basically I am going quite light in watered in nutes from here because they have made it to a very nutrient dense area of the soil, which I can see with the fabric pots. Being able to see the roots through the jiffy pellet and peat pots was really helpful for me. I intend to continue with that progression in future grows.

Once upon a time I could run faster than I can now, but my feet are flat like boards and so I switched running for a rowing machine because the stress on my arches was causing severe pain. No stress on my joints or feet with rowing and it helps strengthen my back, which I need to do to try to minimize sciatic nerve pain bouts (which, combined with my inability to take most anti-inflammatories, are why I have a medical card).

 

[Milson]

After their first haircut . Cheese is doing some extra veg. This is midway through day 1 of flower (31 days since cotyledons).

 

[Milson]

These are from middle of day 34 since cotyledons spread. Day four of flower cycle. I think things are looking good.

group shot

Cheese is back in there and so has not started her stretch at all. I feel good about her.

The defoliation is getting me great branching and holy shit these fan leaves are already way bigger than my hand. I am pleased.

Btw that is copper fungicide residue as a preventative, not wpm.

 

[Milson]

A couple things I have not mentioned yet.

One: Bugbee claims earlier flowering onset when using lots of far red. If that is the case, I should see it in the next two weeks. Will be interesting.

Two: I have been running these on more equatorial light cycle timings. 17-7 for veg and 11-13 for flower. I am just doing this because DJ Short suggested it (avoid the typical indoor light timings) and to be different. I am hopeful this will get me some slightly different phenos...especially if I could get something a little more Zamaldelica leaning on that plant. Mostly this amuses me because I like having stuff that would be hard to buy (in this case, at a dispensary). I know I am losing some significant volume by decreasing my light time by an hour a day...I just don't care.

 

[Kanzeon]

Hooray science!

 

[Fudge]

A couple things I have not mentioned yet.

One: Bugbee claims earlier flowering onset when using lots of far red. If that is the case, I should see it in the next two weeks. Will be interesting.

Two: I have been running these on more equatorial light cycle timings. 17-7 for veg and 11-13 for flower. I am just doing this because DJ Short suggested it (avoid the typical indoor light timings) and to be different. I am hopeful this will get me some slightly different phenos...especially if I could get something a little more Zamaldelica leaning on that plant. Mostly this amuses me because I like having stuff that would be hard to buy (in this case, at a dispensary). I know I am losing some significant volume by decreasing my light time by an hour a day...I just don't care.

I'm considering trying the planet ito method the exact times alude me now and stupidly I didnt bookmark the page, but its along these lines, you still give them 12 hours dark during flower, as its the dark periods that count not the light, but giving them longer light periods, so, say 18/12 so over 4 dark periods(days in the flowers life) they are getting 6 hours more light, you only do this over I think its 2 weeks during full flower and revert back to normal for the last couple of weeks but dont quote me on that.
The science behind it makes total sense as over a period of 7 days, the plant thinks its only had 5, of course this extends your run by maybe 4 days, but the benefits in yield are supposed to be worth it, its just chasing the timer all the time to adjust it would do my tits in haha

 

[Milson]

I'm considering trying the planet ito method the exact times alude me now and stupidly I didnt bookmark the page, but its along these lines, you still give them 12 hours dark during flower, as its the dark periods that count not the light, but giving them longer light periods, so, say 18/12 so over 4 dark periods(days in the flowers life) they are getting 6 hours more light, you only do this over I think its 2 weeks during full flower and revert back to normal for the last couple of weeks but dont quote me on that.
The science behind it makes total sense as over a period of 7 days, the plant thinks its only had 5, of course this extends your run by maybe 4 days, but the benefits in yield are supposed to be worth it, its just chasing the timer all the time to adjust it would do my tits in haha

Yeah man I agree it's super interesting but the timer....vs extra yield. Just not worth.

I agree with you that the plant doesn't measure light time, just darkness as far as I know. I can't imagine how what you propose would screw things up. But I share dj short's interest in pot from hot spots. My overarching question is "I wonder how that works."

 

[Milson]

Morning of day 38 since cotyledons, day 8 of flower for all but Cheese, who is four days behind in flower.

I think everyone looks pretty good. Chemdog's vigor is something else. Sweet Zombie has also shocked me with her branching...like I almost wonder if I mixed her up, but I'm pretty sure I did not.

Bugbee's prediction about flower onset is still TBD....but maaaaaybe?

I am also already getting a little stem rub something beyond the basic plant smell.....

Chemdog

Kali China

Cheese

Sweet Zombie

Zamaldelica x Kali China

 

[Milson]

By the way, the plan (Rasta Jeff) is to chill for a week on defoliation, so that's what I am going to do. I expect I will see some height increase in the next week. I hope I'm right!

 

[Milson]

Quick pics from day 41 since cotyledons spread, day 11 since flower for all but Cheese (who is just finishing week one). I am very happy with the branching on sweet zombie and chemdog. Kali China hash plant shape also in evidence on right. Cheese is viable but small.

I think I will begin transitioning bloom nutes in very soon.

Going to defoliate in week three of flower. Don't want to touch them until then per Rasta Jeff schedule.

 

[Milson]

Also found this in a book I'm reading...it's kind of philosophy, kind of psychology, kind of sociology...idk. but it really resonates. End of first full paragraph.

(Btw my point in putting this in my grow diary is that I feel like my growing hobby has contributed a lot to my psyche feeling more connected to the processes of life).

 

[Milson]

Also, just looking at the plants....Sweet Zombie and Chemdog (both on the left above) both have Sour Diesel in them (Sweet Zombie via the Zombie Virus)....even though for the Sweet Zombie there is a lot less of it than Chemdog in terms of percentage of lineage, their growth structure sure does look pretty close in terms of the silhouette!

Could be a total coincidence. I just literally set up my room to have a couch looking directly at my plants, so I look at them a lot. My wife and I both find it soothing for working on our laptops. Will have to close the tent when I have UV on in a few weeks but other than that it's nice :-)

Something tells me my wife may find it less nice once they start to smell more, but I can turn the fan up pretty high and this can-33 does not fuck around with smell lol it's just literally stone cold gone.