gorillaglueaaron
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Ok this is useless trying to help you. I'm sorry but I can't do this anymore. I wish you luck, seriously. But luck does nothing compared to the laws of physics and plant growth.
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Miiikke
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Cool, see ya
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And why will they grow unevenly, the way it was taught to me was that every part of the plant that is green is creating suction. Meaning every leaf is trying to suck as much out of the stem as is possible. So even the number of leaves per top would have to be the exact same size and have the exact same number of leaves. Add to that ever stem would have to be the same length, it is not physically possible but you are committed. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
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I will continue to fimm. Fimming slows down any growth wherever you want to use it, I can maintain stretch any node at any time, thats how I got where I am already, and will use that majorly to maintain level height. I will need some to grow longer tho so I will use the next screen to level those, then I will use fimming to control growth above the flower screen including flower stretch to reach final flower growth at a perfectly level height and spacing, each cola will have a hole, 144 holes. Either Ill get an 8th on each one and get a lb or Ill get more. At 3”x3” holes and 6” established colas above the top screen I could even fit a quarter oz on some of them so we’ll see, if I had a quarter oz on each one Ill have 2 lbs. We’ll see
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6" colas are not going to happen with that many heads and that light. I wish you luck but you are just not here on earth brother. I respect your confidence but with 1 grow under your belt you really do not have the experience. I stand by all my posts in this thread. I hope you prove me wrong.
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its not a 2x2 space or tent or room, it is a plant in a room of the home, no reflective surfaces, nothing but a few lights over a plant he has patiently "trained" for months. lots of time and effort on the training, but nothing else at all. no time on the not great lights, no time on temp controls or humidity controls (i may be wrong, but it would seem impossible to control the plant environment with it just sitting in a room) so the effort and whole "thing" here seems to be a desire to pinch and pull plants till they scream (yes, they do scream and remember you when you come back!). i find it difficult to think this is for any other reason than the originally stated "therapy". so i encourage you to have fun and enjoy the process, but dont count your chickens yet, or your therapy might make you need therapy!
instead of a new light or more light, use some inexpensive panda paper and set up an area, or a tent or a space in the closet - whatever works. but do the minor things that might make you some yield, or... keep going with the therapy and follow your heart. so much stress over the one thing, training, and none over any other aspect of the grow just doesnt seem prudent...
max yield would take you getting serious about more than the training. you can train the stuffing outta this thing, if you dont do the rest, you wont get the yield. <---- that dot at the end, that is a period. you are not only not doing "the rest" you are insulting people trying to help you get what YOU want! they are sharing some science and experience points trying to help you (you - the guy who doesnt know that is how they are LEGALLY SUPPOSE to label LEDs & the guy who did no led research because that thing about wattage is the first thing they tell you about leds, the guy who has no reflective surfaces or really anything but a butchered plant and a bad light hanging over it. looks like you have to heat and humidify an entire room or home just for a little sickly plant that is not so big, that cant be cost effective, or even condusive to your own health.
see the pretty green bushy plants he showed you, then see yours? just at a glance, im going to say, his - healthy, yours - not so much healthy.
but you are using it for therapy, so the rest is just meaningless for you. ever watch butch n sundance? you just keep thinking Butch, its what youre good at!
instead of a new light or more light, use some inexpensive panda paper and set up an area, or a tent or a space in the closet - whatever works. but do the minor things that might make you some yield, or... keep going with the therapy and follow your heart. so much stress over the one thing, training, and none over any other aspect of the grow just doesnt seem prudent...
max yield would take you getting serious about more than the training. you can train the stuffing outta this thing, if you dont do the rest, you wont get the yield. <---- that dot at the end, that is a period. you are not only not doing "the rest" you are insulting people trying to help you get what YOU want! they are sharing some science and experience points trying to help you (you - the guy who doesnt know that is how they are LEGALLY SUPPOSE to label LEDs & the guy who did no led research because that thing about wattage is the first thing they tell you about leds, the guy who has no reflective surfaces or really anything but a butchered plant and a bad light hanging over it. looks like you have to heat and humidify an entire room or home just for a little sickly plant that is not so big, that cant be cost effective, or even condusive to your own health.
see the pretty green bushy plants he showed you, then see yours? just at a glance, im going to say, his - healthy, yours - not so much healthy.
but you are using it for therapy, so the rest is just meaningless for you. ever watch butch n sundance? you just keep thinking Butch, its what youre good at!
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What do you mean?
I will grow the colas however long I want them flower them, its simple, your negativity is also kinda dumb. Colas are the available tops with light accessibility to flower. What your saying makes absolutely no sense. You have complete control of that. Well I do. You obviously dont
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Thats dumb sorry, of course Im considering environmental setup, I already have an exhaust figured out fo my new hotter lights coming in and Ill probably end up sealing it up now to bent the heat out, and setup a CO2 leak down the line. Its in a bath tub with a showe back splash, so thats not an absorbant material, but when I seal Ill put something reflective of course. Just wait for the results if you feel that strongly about it, and of course you do cause it hasnt been done and its insulting for you to hear there could be a better way then what your doing. But maybe not, maybe its my better way for me, and your way is better for you. How much do you think Ill get? Ill tag you when I weigh. Fair? Im in early veg still, I just didnt need any of those things yet, you saw me asking 1000000 questions about the lights, trust that all my environment will be good when it matters, Im not doing all that training for nothing
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First of all, you have no control over the size of the colas. You can train all you want but once you start flowing messing with the tops is not a good idea. So you are wrong on that point. Secondly, you might call it negativity, I call it reality. You just need to come back to earth. We see one of your type every few weeks or months and they usually all start off the same. And well they usually all end the same, they just disappear one day.What do you mean?
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Oh now we are talking about CO2. What you looking at the exhale bags?
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I have no idea about CO2, I know it gets tons from me right now but Im thinking Ill need something when its sealed just from common sense
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Help me succeed, the light stuff was helpful. Stop trying to convince me Ill fail. I wont. Then we can all be proud of it together after. I you see something obvious that you know Im doing wrong and can be better another way please tell me and Ill use it, but there is no need to disagree that hard off of opinion
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A plant doubles its height in flower stretch, all you will do by fimming new growth in flower would be to slow it down on purpose to stay level, It would be acheiveing a negative result for a positive contribution, the light can stay close to all of them, a sacrifice that I havent seem made cause most arent in the position to make that sacrifice with the number of uneven spread out colas
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Miiikke = Opinion
Other = Experience
You stand firm on your opinions others have Experience. So while you see things as negativity others see it was being naive.
Peace OUT Miiikke
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You have zero experience on what your commenting on. I dont need your help
This is a waste of space and light, its good but could be way better. Im trying to figure out how to make it better. You just keep doing that
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Miiikke
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I dont care lol. Im doing an expirement to test my theories. If Im wrong itll show in a few months. Whys everybody so mad lol. If I listened a d chopped the plant then this would be a pointless experiment, thats not good advice at this point or something to get upset about,Im open to help, I took it for the lights cause I needed it.I know what I think about the training, at least aim testing that theory, how can you be mad at that or me debating what I think when know one is showing me from their “experience” that it wont work, just “somebody woulda been doing it already” there is always for improvement, especially to new underdeveloped techniques
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That is awesome, someone using the forum search engine. While I agree with you on that picture I have to be honest, that is not my grow. I think that was a guy names Humugous or something like that. He was much like you, confident in his ways being superior and knew more than anyone else on the forum but he just sort of disappeared. Have not seen him on here in months.You have zero experience on what your commenting on. I dont need your help
This is a waste of space and light, its good but could be way better. Im trying to figure out how to make it better. You just keep doing that
These are my work. I do not post pictures and I have my profile locked because I see no need to brag. But since you feel the need to post and think it was my work here you go.
gorillaglueaaron
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Just letting you know, your profile isn't locked. Open to everyone.
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