2 TENTS AND ELEVEN PLANTS AUTOS

[cpurola]

Idea post it note.

Combination self watering bottom feed drain base with remote rotation ability and a built in scale to weight the pot.

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The only thing I don't have is the scale. LOL

 

[cpurola]

I looked back through your thread but I'm not finding info. on the humidifier and exhaust fan. (I know it's there, just can't find) Did you say you cycle it?
I'm asking 'cause I keep thinking the tent is like a bathroom, shower on, ceiling fan on, no condensation on the mirror. How do you keep the moisture in the tent?

 

[JIMKSI64]

I run the lights and the fan on the Vivosun app.
The ACI app runs the thermo and cloud forge.

Both The duct and the sweep run constant. The fan setting for 5 is the in light fans. The sweep is under local control.
Duct pull to outside room setting 3 but I had to muffle at the outlet as it pulls to hard.
The whole room is only 5% under the inside the tent settings. The cloud forge forge is just to keep the vdp steady.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Maybe some diatomaceous earth as an extra layer of security against the gnats? Only issue is that it also kills nematodes though

I run so dry with my pots once the initial gnants die off I hardly see bugs.
Next week expecting hard freeze so die bugs die.

 

[cpurola]

Okay, I just realized what the 'lung room' means. It's the air moving into and out of the tent, right?
Yes, I'm a complete noob and had no idea.

 

[amneziaHaze]

Okay, I just realized what the 'lung room' means. It's the air moving into and out of the tent, right?
Yes, I'm a complete noob and had no idea.

lung room is the room from where the air is coming usually the same room as the tent

 

[cpurola]

lung room is the room from where the air is coming usually the same room as the tent

So the exhaust goes outside the room. Of course. Thanks.

 

[JIMKSI64]

31x31 not dried out yet. Expected due to lower heat.
4x4 Trained some plants and bent 2 of them over. 3 got pulled down and away for spread. One plant got the 1/4 turn to clear the lowers at node 3. Everything else took leaf tucking to clear.
Panel at 52% 21 k at tops 19k on squatty mc squatter.

 

[JIMKSI64]

10AM check slight taco top smaller fans. Reduced to 49% and will recheck at noon.
Surprised I had not hit the limit earlier. Tiny plants sucking the light up.

 

[cpurola]

So, lst instead of top? Or did I miss the topping?

 

[cpurola]

So, lst instead of top? Or did I miss the topping?

NVM, I shouldn't post while high. LOL

 

[JIMKSI64]

NVM, I shouldn't post while high. LOL

I top different. It is working for me.
I bend the plant over and take about 3 days to get the central top below the level of the other EXPECTED stems for tops. By lowering the main stem and exposing about 8 inches of stem I get node popping out and can train them reverse to the stream movement. Here is a pic.

This is a single main stem that built nice buds from being pulled over and let grow. The single main stem was 30% of the dry weight of the whole plant. When I plant grows straight up with a small amount spread the topping is needed to get the rest of the plant in gear as the plant is prioritizing the main stem. Topping results in a larger hormone response that I use on the tall plants. For the ones who do a good job spreading and already have a good presentation I pull em over and do not top as in this strain I have found out that topping results in fast growth that does not grow supportive stems and they will need to be supported with fixtures. The stretchy plants are opposite. They grow trunks and they rarely need support.
When done properly on this strain I get the classic round plant with long runs of secondary stems and the top clumps up nicely.

you can see that the grown flowering plant is not much out of the perimeter of the 5 gallon pot. This compact grow is needed to stuff 7 plants in a 4x4 .

 

[JIMKSI64]

Weekly numbers.
Apparently the Vivosun app has a " feature " that caps the environment numbers that are very low time at number.
The ACI reports the good the bad and the ugly even if it was a 1 minute interval when humidity dropped cause you were sweeping out the tent.
This places the Vivosun app into the not useful data category and I will stop basing anything on this app that can not be verified with the ACi equipment.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
Training day part 2 of many today in the 4x4.
Reverse belayed the stems on the pulling over ones. I now have just 2 unmolested the squatty plant and the perfect representation of the Apple Fritter Auto that I wish I had 10 of in 2 tents. It is growing node 7 and is perfectly spread and 4 stems are already over the pot perimeter.
Lights still at 49% vdp 1.1 average 65%
No preflower signs but the stretch is on for 5 plants in the 4x4

Apple fritter Auto 27 days above ground.
Ps the one directly behind the sensor cup is the most beautiful pot plant I have ever grown.
31x31 watered with 500ml ro. Lights at step 16k tops.
75 degrees 60% rh 1.1 vdp.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
4x4 training day 3. Did some HST on tops. Pulled tucked and bent.
Slight leaf edge lift but everything that was showing got moved down.
Apple Fritter Auto day 28 above ground.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update.
Only 1 pot and it's the best looking and most vegetation plant was ready for water in the 4x4. Tucked and pulled some more. Every top site has clear access to light. From 20k to 18.5 k even on tops 2 inches from dirt due to hot spot in panel.
31x31 holding pattern.

Congratulations too me on remembering to keep on top of the ro water. Every time I go into the wet room I have 6 gallons of ro ready to go. I filled it back up before it went under 12 inches deep cause it makes it hard to fill a jug. I will sometime in the future put a demand pump in for filling but for now it's working.
No pics today. They all look 1/2 dressed.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update
All 4x4 but one pot are now watered with 750ml ro water.
Trained the ones due.
Light up to 51% 21k tops max 18 on lowers facing center and down to 15 facing away. Will rotate plants on outers.
Culled some smaller stems mostly the 1 leaf stems that have not went over 3 inches. 3 plants have nice stems.
Apple fritter Auto 28 days above ground.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Everybody looking up.
Burst of training will be here and there for a while until the flower stretch starts. Still pulling outwards but will turn up soon for cola development.
Apple Fritter Auto 28 days above ground.
O wait
Apple fritter Auto
28 days later

 

[JIMKSI64]

Update

4x4 last 2 plants watered. LST all around.
Moved plants towards outer area of lights and upped to 58% on tops 22k most sides 18k bottoms facing away 14.5k
And found my first flower girl start.

31x31 is now down to 2 plants. Trained some lst
Apple fritter Auto 29 days above ground.

 

[JIMKSI64]

Nope, not gunna do it.

I was counting stems and tops and looking at small stuff that really is not going to do much and I am figguring out bud run feet and adding it up and going to put it in the journal and a cold shiver ran down my back and said something about pride goith and Karma running over my dogma and I am going to burn my paper I made notes on and go smoke a fatty.