3,200sq. Ft. Warehouse/help With Setup

[Spectre]

Hey everyone. I'm moving into this place on May 1st and I'd like some input on where to start. Now I'm not jumping into this blind I know what I'm doing but I'm on a budget and today I found out the electrical will cost much more than I expected. So it looks like I'm gonna have to lower my expectations a bit in the beginning. I have about 25k for initial buildout (not including rent or any other expenses), so I'd like some input on stretching my money as far as I can. Thanks in advance guys!

 

[rubthe nub]

25k won't go far in a space like that, electric work will eat that up by itself
sorry bro I hate to be the bearer of bad news

Maybe build a small room inside the space that you can later turn into a veg room.
Block off those skylights too, that'll fuck up your flower schedule sooner or later
Good Luck

 

[Spectre]

25k won't go far in a space like that, sorry bro I hate to be the bearer of bad news

Maybe build a small room inside the space that you can later turn into a veg room.
Block off those skylights too, that'll fuck up your flower schedule sooner or later
Good Luck

Thanks for the input rub.

Trust me I know it won't go far. I planned on starting with one 20' x 20' x 10' bloom room w/ 12 lights, then expand in the future. The rooms would framed separately so I'm not worried about the skylights.

 

[rubthe nub]

You should be close to pulling a 12 lighter with that capital
You're going to have to do all/most of the work though.

Going to need a AC unit, probably around 5 ton
Then your lights, go coco or dirt.
Absolutely need a dehuey, etc....

 

[rubthe nub]

You might be able to go cheap on the walls for a single grow but not best for long term

 

[Spectre]

You should be close to pulling a 12 lighter with that capital
You're going to have to do all/most of the work though.

Going to need a AC unit, probably around 5 ton
Then your lights, go coco or dirt.
Absolutely need a dehuey, etc....

Building the rooms I can do myself. Only thing I can't do is electrical because it's 3-phase which I know nothing about. Was thinking of running a 5Ton chiller which would cover the first 2 rooms I build on a flip, expensive though. Also wanted to go with DE fixtures but also expensive.

 

[Billyboat]

10-12 Nanolux de's and a york 5 ton split ac...Going to need at least 1 quest 205 for dehuy...
8-10k on build out (from lumber, insulation, drywall, electrical, wire, outlets etc)
15k-17 on grow equipment
Gonna be a tight budget

The chiller route is a great idea but not cost effective at all for you. You are looking at 10-12k for all the set up equipment for 2 5 ton airhandlers, 1 chiller, 1 hp pump, and all the plumbing...

 

[Spectre]

Thanks Billy, I'll definitely consider your advice. It's gonna be tight but I don't mind starting small.

If I went the chiller route I'd only start with 1 air handler, even so I got quoted at about 8k w/ tubing, res, pump etc. Could definitely save by going with a traditional A/C but I'd have to bring in an HVAC guy, also can't run another room off of it later.

 

[Billyboat]

I debated this subject for many days on some of my build outs...

The biggest con of using 1 chiller for two rooms is if the chiller ever goes down you lose both rooms a/c not just one.

That alone sealed the deal for me. I like redundancy.

 

[butchdsd]

If you worked with single phase before(with success) you should be fine working with three phase....

 

[Spectre]

I debated this subject for many days on some of my build outs...

The biggest con of using 1 chiller for two rooms is if the chiller ever goes down you lose both rooms a/c not just one.

That alone sealed the deal for me. I like redundancy.

Makes sense. Probably a better idea to start that way. Thanks again Billy any other advice is welcome.

 

[Spectre]

If you worked with single phase before(with success) you should be fine working with three phase....

I have a good friend who's a pro who I don't mind bringing in. He won't screw me on the price so I'd rather just let him handle it. The panels, wire, transformer is whats gonna cost me on that end..

 

[rubthe nub]

I'm not an electrician but I think you can pull single phase 220/240 out of that 3 220/240. I think you just omit one of the legs,fwiw. I'd check into that. Most lights will run on 240/220 and save a couple amps in the process.

 

[butchdsd]

Having an electrician on your team is huge.....The hardware is what really costs...wasn't that way pre 911...nothings really improved...just costs more...funny how that doesn't work with most markets....LOL....

B

 

[butchdsd]

You can have your lights set-up from the factory(depending on the manufacture) to run three phase...

 

[Spectre]

Thanks for all the input guys. I'll know more about the electrical on Monday. The building is still being cleaned up so I couldn't get a good look at the panel today.

 

[Ned Kelly]

@Spectre follow exactly what billy boat says check out his grows . The mans got it nailed

 

[Billyboat]

You can have your lights set-up from the factory(depending on the manufacture) to run three phase...

I've never seen 3 phase lights...Just lights that run on 277v up to 480v.

Not all 3 phase is the same. You could have a high leg, or something that gives you 480v or 3 phase like I have, that is actually 200-208v. 3 phase is not any more difficult to work with once you know what you are working with.

Cheers

 

[sanvanalona]

So this is what I would do. First, you're on the right track by estimating electrical, but depending in where you are I can't imagine more than 5 k on all the power. Second, what type of equipment? If you're in a place where you can buy solid used equipment or you find the best internet deal you should be at no more than 500 per light. That said I would split the warehouse into 4 different 6 light rooms and keep a nice solid veg space as well , possibly 2 veg rooms one for little girls ran with fluorescents and then one for larger plants with hids. This should put you at 17k for lights and electrical. Take out another 2 for drywall and construction and you should have 6 k leftover for veg room, fans and a small ac. Of course cutting costs anywhere necessary to help with fluctuating temps is a must.

 

[Spectre]

So this is what I would do. First, you're on the right track by estimating electrical, but depending in where you are I can't imagine more than 5 k on all the power. Second, what type of equipment? If you're in a place where you can buy solid used equipment or you find the best internet deal you should be at no more than 500 per light. That said I would split the warehouse into 4 different 6 light rooms and keep a nice solid veg space as well , possibly 2 veg rooms one for little girls ran with fluorescents and then one for larger plants with hids. This should put you at 17k for lights and electrical. Take out another 2 for drywall and construction and you should have 6 k leftover for veg room, fans and a small ac. Of course cutting costs anywhere necessary to help with fluctuating temps is a must.

I'm in Southern Cali. Some stuff i can get used like fans but i'm trying to bring in as much new equipment as possible to avoid problems later. The DE fixtures I can get around $400 ea. Regular basic HIDs for $130 ea. So I'm thinking of just going with 2 rooms of wings, 12 lights per room on a flip (no flip-box). 6-Light rooms don't feel worth the effort in this space.

Gonna go with OSB over drywall for sheeting, much easier to work with IMO.