4x4 Tent, Galaxyhydro 300w Led (x2) In Soil. First Grow.

[Minitiger]

Just going on what I've read and been told, I'm keeping mine around 78-80 lights on and then 68-70 off as it's a sativa that likes light and warmth. Been told by couple of other growers that I could easily bump it up few degrees more 80-82 and possibly get better growth rates. They're not bad, so haven't seen the need to spend more on electricity. I've also been told by several growers in the area to try and keep temp fluctuations of no more than 10 degrees. Really suffered some extreme fluctuations early on in my grow, so talked to as many growers around here as possible about their experiences.

On a side note; before I was able to control the temp on my grow (just moved it last few days) my temp changes were reversed; cooler lights on than off. Perhaps this explains the really tight internode length my plants are keeping. I am using LEDs and have been told that they usu. keep shorter lengths too.

Dude, that's been happening to me too, lately. Driving me fucking NUTS haha. Been around 68-72 during lights on and mid to high 70s during lights off. Kinda got it under control now, but last week it got much cooler at night (lights on) than I thought it would, so the temps dropped pretty low for a few nights. Really annoying.

 

[Minitiger]

thanks for all the help on this one guys. i got my microscope, and nowhere near ready to harvest. all trich's clear as glass on both sets of plants. also they needed another watering last night so i watered and fed them. i've been letting the tent stay cool under the premise of you harvest in the fall when it's cooler. any reason not to let it get in the 65 degree range? usually hovers around 68-70 lights on and dips to 65 at night and in the morning.

I know some plants really don't like it when temps get under 72 (think herms) but I don't think that either the GSC or the GDP would mind. I think it's typically more Sativa-leaning plants that don't appreciate cooler temps. Still, if you can keep it a little warmer, I'd do that.

 

[somedumbjerk]

Totally forgot to post the pics i took. a few leaves are looking rough, and the plant was thirsty and hungry, so not the healthiest looking at the moment.

GDP 1

GDP 2

GSC 1

GSC 2

so far not too terrible. lots of room for improvement, and regretting not cutting some clones and setting up a clone room. i will right after i plant the next crop of seeds.

 

[somedumbjerk]

going to raise the temps now, thanks for the clarification on that guys!

can't get the GSC2 pics to work, trying here:

 

[Minitiger]

Man, it's crazy how, uh, I dunno... Not spindly, but just how light that GDP is looking. I have no idea how GDP yields, never really been interested in growing it, so I've not done any research on it. I have blazed a bunch of it, not my favorite strain, but it's good. What I can't believe is just how "light" the yields look. I mean, it looks frosty as fuck and bomb, but I'd think that it would yield a lot better than its looking right now.

Give it time, I think. Patience... I bet it'll bulk the fuck up here in the next few weeks. You still have about three weeks to go, right? Either way, I always say quality over quantity. I'd rather have two ozs of fire as opposed to four ozs of "just okay buds" haha.

Loving those fat-ass dark green fan leaves on the GSC's, though. Both strains look stellar. Keep on killin' it!

 

[Orcaman]

Your girls are looking pretty good. Just too many fan leaves still on the plants. I want to suggest with your next run to defoliate for better light penetration through the whole plant. This really helps the lower buds development resulting in a better yield.
As far as temps go you always want at least a ten degree departure in there day and night. For me to maintain proper temps using LED's I have an oil filled radiator in there area timed to be on with the lights on. My temps are ranging 75 to 85 degrees with lights on, and 60 to 70 degrees when off.

 

[Minitiger]

Your girls are looking pretty good. Just too many fan leaves still on the plants. I want to suggest with your next run to defoliate for better light penetration through the whole plant. This really helps the lower buds development resulting in a better yield.
As far as temps go you always want at least a ten degree departure in there day and night. For me to maintain proper temps using LED's I have an oil filled radiator in there area timed to be on with the lights on. My temps are ranging 75 to 85 degrees with lights on, and 60 to 70 degrees when off.

I agree with @Orcaman Im usually of the mindset to just let the plant do its thing, fan leaves be damned. But looking at those pics again, the fan leaves on those GSC's especially are fucking HUGE. I'm typically reluctant to fuck with plants when they're well into flower, as yours are, but orca's right. Those fans might wanna be removed. But I also do think that they'll start bulking up pretty good in these last couple three weeks. Regardless, frosty frosty frosty.... Looking great!

 

[Orcaman]

I'm typically reluctant to fuck with plants when they're well into flower

I thin all of my plants as needed but it is a process that starts early in bloom to minimize stress. I generally defoliate each plant three to four times as they finish to maintain good light through the plant. I think to little to late in this situation. One of my plants is ready for its first thinning. I'll take before and after shots of her this afternoon and share here.

 

[Minitiger]

I thin all of my plants as needed but it is a process that starts early in bloom to minimize stress. I generally defoliate each plant three to four times as they finish to maintain good light through the plant. I think to little to late in this situation. One of my plants is ready for its first thinning. I'll take before and after shots of her this afternoon and share here.

Sweet! Looking forward to those pics. I agree that 1. It might me too little too late and 2. Minimizing stress is essential. Plus, I've never grown anything with gigantic fan leaves like the ones pictured in those last pics that @somedumbjerk posted. My Clusterfunk was close, but the structure was good enough that light penetration was acceptable, despite the big-ass fan leaves. Those fans on the GSC are just crazy, though.

I know nothing about how to, like, find people's grows and shit on here (total computer idiot haha), but I'll try and find your grow on here once I wake up. I really, really need to go to bed like right now haha!

 

[somedumbjerk]

I thin all of my plants as needed but it is a process that starts early in bloom to minimize stress. I generally defoliate each plant three to four times as they finish to maintain good light through the plant. I think to little to late in this situation. One of my plants is ready for its first thinning. I'll take before and after shots of her this afternoon and share here.

Thanks! That would be incredibility helpful!

 

[Orcaman]

I guess lets see how well I can present this info on defoliation. First I want to say that this is my mefed and not

 

[Orcaman]

What a fubar here. I was in the middle of posting and I could not post pic's and lost most of my post trying to correct.
So lets start over with defoliation. As stated this is my method and love every other too. I

 

[Orcaman]

Lets try this again after a good nights sleep. I have two methods of defoliation based on a plants maturity. First example is this Platinum Cookies x Blue Doggy Dogg on her first run. She just started alternation on her 8th node and will only have her main fan leaves removed to that node for now.

Here she is before her thinning.

And after.

My next example is this Jaffa Cake on her second run. As you can see she is a very busy girl. She was not even topped. On this girl I will remove all of the leaves that are blocking bud sites.
Before her thinning.

After

In about two more weeks she will probably have about the same amount of leaves removed again.

 

[somedumbjerk]

i didn't die, the grow finished and harvested. at this point mostly smoked :joyful:
i didn't document it very well, and had to take some time to get my life in order. my apologies to those that helped and hoped for more.

things i've learned

Patience, i need it. i harvested too early. about a week or so. will relax with new grow. starting meditation, might help.

i sucked at training and defoliation. i won't this time. more to follow on this.

i suck at documentation. this i will try to be better on, but already failed with my current grow. the product ended up being pretty great. not stellar, but i was okay with it for my first grow. the flowers where not getting fat enough. towards the end i added a 400whps and took away the led. what i should have done was use all the lights. anyway, here are the few pics took during harvest, and a random bud porn pic i found of a purple ass nug. the bubble hash water was red, btw.

each of the scale pics are harvested buds, tightly trimmed. one plant per bowl.

dried and cured much later

the full shebang after trim tax

next grow is underway. completely different, cause why not. i'll post it in a bit.

 

[Farmingherbs]

Just re-read the last two pages to get caught up, looks good so far.

One thing re: watering: I like to water my plants with about half of the water they're gonna get, wait twenty or thirty minutes, THEN water with the rest of the, uh, water. Then I wait about twenty minutes and drain the pot holder things. Can't remember why I do that exactly right now haha, but I think it has something to do with the water kind of following the roots if you do it all at once, thus creating dry zones in the soil. Whatever the exact reason is, it made sense when I read the "watering twice" thing years ago.[/QUOTE

Totally forgot to post the pics i took. a few leaves are looking rough, and the plant was thirsty and hungry, so not the healthiest looking at the moment.

GDP 1

GDP 2

GSC 1

GSC 2

so far not too terrible. lots of room for improvement, and regretting not cutting some clones and setting up a clone room. i will right after i plant the next crop of seeds.

Nice colors beautiful plants!
Nice harvest also!
Glad you finished journal.

 

[somedumbjerk]

Nice colors beautiful plants!
Nice harvest also!
Glad you finished journal.

Thanks! i'm going a little crazy in my second grow. trying to start a mom/clone room and hopefully soon a veg tent.