Advise please...1st time grower

[BearWater]

trying to learn from my mistakes at the same time.

This takes time : ) one of the hardest things for me to get down as a new grower. The patience to wait to make that adjustment you learned. Try not to change things up to much during the grow (youll start chasing your tail in a cirlcle)

 

[Droppinplates84]

I don't know if you're on a "Time of Use" electricity billing plan, but having the lights come on at midnight and off between 6pm to midnight should be putting your cost for electricity at its lowest point than any other light schedule: off-peak rates. If you want to water earlier, your electricity might cost an extra 30 cents a day for the couple hours of on peak use, but how much is quality sleep worth?

hehehe well at some point I wont care anymore and ill adjust. I think my next full indoor grow ill adjust and see how much more it will be. I have a plan in the next couple months. I live in Ohio and a safe date to transplant outdoors is roughly mid to late May. So I am going to start some Apple Betty Photos indoors about mid to late April starting light cycle at 6AM at 18/6....then about June 1st maybe a bit sooner Im going to transplant them into my outdoor Garden in 10 gallon fabric pots and just give them nutes every week. That means when nature will flip them to flower when the time is right....let Jesus take the wheel!!
I already have a 10x10 encloser outdoors that I grow tomatoes and such in, but Im going to extend it to double size.

 

[MercDod]

Good Day Droppinplates,
Curious as to what strain your running and who the breeder is? I also noticed you had like 3 probes in the picture and was wondering about what they were all for? What are you growing in?

I should probably add also that I only water them just before the lights come on that was something that I read as well correct me if you have a better time for watering

Did you top water them in the dark or have an automated water?

 

[MercDod]

Another thing I should mention is I have 2 osculating fans on level one.....one is top of canopy, and the other is underneath. There shouldnt be a bit of stagnant air in that tent at all....LOL

Your exhaust fan should also eliminate any stagnant air.

 

[Ninjadogma]

hehehe well at some point I wont care anymore and ill adjust. I think my next full indoor grow ill adjust and see how much more it will be. I have a plan in the next couple months. I live in Ohio and a safe date to transplant outdoors is roughly mid to late May. So I am going to start some Apple Betty Photos indoors about mid to late April starting light cycle at 6AM at 18/6....then about June 1st maybe a bit sooner Im going to transplant them into my outdoor Garden in 10 gallon fabric pots and just give them nutes every week. That means when nature will flip them to flower when the time is right....let Jesus take the wheel!!
I already have a 10x10 encloser outdoors that I grow tomatoes and such in, but Im going to extend it to double size. View attachment 2602610View attachment 2602613View attachment 2602612View attachment 2602611

When you're ready to take those plants outside in May, take the two weeks leading up to it to gradually match the natural sunrise and sunset times on your light schedule. The sudden dip from 18 hours down to 15.5 hours can trick them into assuming the days are shortening and they'll start to flower, and it's too much daylight to keep them there so then you get hormonal wobble that's still going on when they're ready to naturally flower. The grow penalty is loss of veg growth while the plant is confused whether it should grow flowers or leaves. So if you sync to natural light leading up to the outside move, you can avoid that headache.

 

[Droppinplates84]

Good Day Droppinplates,
Curious as to what strain your running and who the breeder is? I also noticed you had like 3 probes in the picture and was wondering about what they were all for? What are you growing in?

Did you top water them in the dark or have an automated water?

Well being a newbie Im not sure who the breeder is but its Red Super Skunk Autoflower. I have tried finding out where I got them from but Ive only bought from two places so far and thats STRN Seeds, and The Seed Connect. Eventually I will have to find a place here in Ohio before November because if what I was reading is correct, we wont be able to buy seeds across state lines anymore, but Im not sure the full details.
I dont remember if I topped them right before lights out or not. I at first just tied a couple of them over and topped the other Two.Then eventually I topped the other two. After topping them all and let them recover a day or two, I started staking down some of the branches to spread them out and even them out. Work ok I guess but when they took off, they still went straight up and I realized I didnt branch them out far enough thats why I had to spread them out a little bit the other day. I find it fascinating that I can manipulate the way they grow in that manor.
About the probes in the tent, One is for the controller, another is for the humidifier, and the other one is for the heater.

Also I havent gotten as far as automated watering, but I thought about it. Dont seem nessisary due to me peeking in on them through the window a couple times a day LMAO

 

[Droppinplates84]

When you're ready to take those plants outside in May, take the two weeks leading up to it to gradually match the natural sunrise and sunset times on your light schedule. The sudden dip from 18 hours down to 15.5 hours can trick them into assuming the days are shortening and they'll start to flower, and it's too much daylight to keep them there so then you get hormonal wobble that's still going on when they're ready to naturally flower. The grow penalty is loss of veg growth while the plant is confused whether it should grow flowers or leaves. So if you sync to natural light leading up to the outside move, you can avoid that headache.

Nice....thank you. I was just assuming if I went all in on 18/6 they would match the natural light.....I will watch the sunrise and sunset times on a news channel and every week ill adjust to their time until I take them outside. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Droppinplates84]

When you're ready to take those plants outside in May, take the two weeks leading up to it to gradually match the natural sunrise and sunset times on your light schedule. The sudden dip from 18 hours down to 15.5 hours can trick them into assuming the days are shortening and they'll start to flower, and it's too much daylight to keep them there so then you get hormonal wobble that's still going on when they're ready to naturally flower. The grow penalty is loss of veg growth while the plant is confused whether it should grow flowers or leaves. So if you sync to natural light leading up to the outside move, you can avoid that headache.

So just so I dont mess anything up, I will mimic the natural light here in Ohio down to within minutes everyday for the month leading up to transplanting outdoors. Again, thanks for bringing that detail to my attention. I could and probably would have messed things up LOL

 

[OldDustyFart]

Definitely has helped my depression since being disabled at 32 has been challenging so anything to make life easier we should do in abundance the only reason I won't buy a 4x8 is because im scared it gonna become a job and I dont won't to get away from it. Infact I haven't smoked in 3 months because im going to pain managment doctor however its probably one of the most funnest things I do every single day. Thanks for posting today have enjoyed learning with you!

It's nature's prozac :). I've been growing since I was 18. That's 38 years ago. Today? I'm legally employed and get a legit paycheck for it every Friday. Nothing like hanging out with your plants after a long day. The equipment bug and more faster rut is easy to fall into. But since you said you were taking advice.... (this might go long sorry in advance)

My boss has a massive warehouse. But because about I'm into specialty breeding and that involves pollen that can't get on to the main production floor... It's compartmenatalized and then we run tents with monster filtration. There's more but I won't bore you.

The setup I use for a breeding project is two 4x4x7 tents and one 4x2. The small one is veg. And then one 4x4 each for flowering and pollination. Once I have seeds brewing then we'll clean that pollination tent down and flower clones from the momma plants to test production. If it's good then I'll run two flowering tents once the seed stock I'm looking for is prdocued. One flowering tent has 4 water slots and five 5 gallon grow bag slots. The other is built and lit for one massive tree. We want to see what fast short height production vs huge long production yeilds look like.

I think you'd enjoy the water/dirt setup. We usually pull 2oz cured from each little plant. That's would be 18oz for you per cycle. One big huge plant is risky for personal consumption and challenging because of lighting and support and the quantity of dirt necessary to fill a 25 gallon grow bag lol. But if you have the room for a 4x2 and 2 4x4's then you can produce more than you can consume easily.

 

[Ninjadogma]

So just so I dont mess anything up, I will mimic the natural light here in Ohio down to within minutes everyday for the month leading up to transplanting outdoors. Again, thanks for bringing that detail to my attention. I could and probably would have messed things up LOL

No need to do it too far in advance and if you do you could accidentally send them into flower. We get hung up on the idea that a 12/12 schedule triggers flowering, but in reality its 10 hours of uninterrupted darkness. Toward the end of summer when the day length dips below 14 hours, that's what triggers flowering naturally (give or take about 10 days before or after then).

So as you're looking for a safe enough date to put theme outside, check your sunrise and sunset times for the first day of spring that will have at least 14 hours of daylight and wait another week to 10 days and then they should be safe. If you want to be in the ground even earlier you can, just give em supplemental light.

 

[Droppinplates84]

No need to do it too far in advance and if you do you could accidentally send them into flower. We get hung up on the idea that a 12/12 schedule triggers flowering, but in reality its 10 hours of uninterrupted darkness. Toward the end of summer when the day length dips below 14 hours, that's what triggers flowering naturally (give or take about 10 days before or after then).

So as you're looking for a safe enough date to put theme outside, check your sunrise and sunset times for the first day of spring that will have at least 14 hours of daylight and wait another week to 10 days and then they should be safe. If you want to be in the ground even earlier you can, just give em supplemental light.

So I was looking at the light schedule for Ohio and the 1st of June would be a few mins shy of 15 hours of light per day. Do you think I should just start in my tent with 15 hours of light all the way til I transplant them outdoors? that way there will be no light changes from seed until natural light takes over outdoors

 

[Tle4]

Good evening fellow growers. This is my first grow and Ive been a bit late at every step trying to blindly follow youtube growers, and trying to learn from my mistakes at the same time. Ive spent so much money on all equipment I need to grow some great batches proving how committed I am to learning and growing for many years to come. My girls are in week 7 and a bit smelly so far in my grow tent in my basement. Ive messed up to the point I had to flush a couple weeks ago and now I am at this stage. I know average autoflower is roughly 10 weeks life cycle, but since Im about to enter week 8 Im concerned. I keep RH at roughly 45-48 and temps for daytime: 74-76 Degrees Night: 64-68 Degrees. I have a little bit of trichomes it looks like, but nothing like ive seen here. Im giving them foxfarm trio in worm casting tea, being careful not to take my PPMs past 600-700 (trying not to force a flush til end again). I keep PH at 6.2 - 6.4 everytime. I plan on a straight watering with spring water next time with no nutes at all as sometimes I get antsy and want to forcefeed them. Can you guys give me some tips judging by the pics I post and info Ive given? Also, judging by the pics and the fact its at 7 weeks, how much more time do I have for these girls to fatten up their buds before harvesting? Thanks in advance guys and galsView attachment 2602345View attachment 2602346View attachment 2602347View attachment 2602348. Any and all advise welcomed.

You are 7 weeks from popping out of soil? If they are autoflower, it’s usually 10-12 weeks from when they pop out of soil. Times can vary depending on strain and genetics. Looks like you are just starting to stack buds now

 

[Jjohnson]

If you start them in a tent you won’t just be able to take them out and stick them in the ground and call it good. You will have to spend a week taking them outside a little at a time letting them get used to the natural light etc. being in Ohio you have quite a longer season than I do. I would just wait till your soil is about 70 degrees and you have the right amount of daylight and get them in the ground. You could pop the seeds indoors to get your tap root going and you should be fine. That’s just what I would do but I don’t have experience growing in your climate, just the frozen tundra of Minnesota

 

[Droppinplates84]

Good Morning everyone. Before jumping the gun and making a silly move that most new growers do, I wanted to chime in and get a bit more advise. I woke this morning and go and check on my girls like I always do. I noticed one of them was turning a strange light green color. In one pic you can clearly see difference in color than next to the other one. I water them all out of same bucket (aerated and Ph to 6.5 last watering, no nutes). Do you guys think this is because the Ph is 6.5 or is it needing more nitrogen? Next watering in a couple days I plan to feed them some nutes in wormcasting tea(not taking PPMs past 600). I give them about 1 gallon each, plenty or runoff. Thanks in advance, again, all advise welcome. (obviously the one in question is on the right)

 

[Droppinplates84]

You are 7 weeks from popping out of soil? If they are autoflower, it’s usually 10-12 weeks from when they pop out of soil. Times can vary depending on strain and genetics. Looks like you are just starting to stack buds now

Yes now I am a day or two shy of 8 weeks.

 

[Hossgrows]

hehehe well at some point I wont care anymore and ill adjust. I think my next full indoor grow ill adjust and see how much more it will be. I have a plan in the next couple months. I live in Ohio and a safe date to transplant outdoors is roughly mid to late May. So I am going to start some Apple Betty Photos indoors about mid to late April starting light cycle at 6AM at 18/6....then about June 1st maybe a bit sooner Im going to transplant them into my outdoor Garden in 10 gallon fabric pots and just give them nutes every week. That means when nature will flip them to flower when the time is right....let Jesus take the wheel!!
I already have a 10x10 encloser outdoors that I grow tomatoes and such in, but Im going to extend it to double size. View attachment 2602610View attachment 2602613View attachment 2602612View attachment 2602611

Welcome to the farm, from another Ohio farmer. Your gonna love growing outdoors. But ya might wanna raise the height of your roof on your greenhouse, during your expansion.
And make sure your not getting hit by street lights or backyard porch lites, during the night.

I grow outside, and yes...early to mid May is transplant time. I usually go in on mother's day, if weather has been stable, and soil temps are above 50°f

So what part of Ohio are u in. I'm in the Akron area.

 

[Hossgrows]

Welcome to the farm, from another Ohio farmer. Your gonna love growing outdoors. But ya might wanna raise the height of your roof on your greenhouse, during your expansion.
And make sure your not getting hit by street lights or backyard porch lites, during the night.

I grow outside, and yes...early to mid May is transplant time. I usually go in on mother's day, if weather has been stable, and soil temps are above 50°f

So what part of Ohio are u in. I'm in the Akron area.

Guess I should've mentioned....I pop beans near end of March. If their not feminized, it'll be early June before u know what sex they are.

 

[corey827]

hehehe well at some point I wont care anymore and ill adjust. I think my next full indoor grow ill adjust and see how much more it will be. I have a plan in the next couple months. I live in Ohio and a safe date to transplant outdoors is roughly mid to late May. So I am going to start some Apple Betty Photos indoors about mid to late April starting light cycle at 6AM at 18/6....then about June 1st maybe a bit sooner Im going to transplant them into my outdoor Garden in 10 gallon fabric pots and just give them nutes every week. That means when nature will flip them to flower when the time is right....let Jesus take the wheel!!
I already have a 10x10 encloser outdoors that I grow tomatoes and such in, but Im going to extend it to double size. View attachment 2602610View attachment 2602613View attachment 2602612View attachment 2602611

Those are some nice looking tomatoes. Is that current?

 

[Droppinplates84]

Welcome to the farm, from another Ohio farmer. Your gonna love growing outdoors. But ya might wanna raise the height of your roof on your greenhouse, during your expansion.
And make sure your not getting hit by street lights or backyard porch lites, during the night.

I grow outside, and yes...early to mid May is transplant time. I usually go in on mother's day, if weather has been stable, and soil temps are above 50°f

So what part of Ohio are u in. I'm in the Akron area.

Im in Columbus area. My plan is to start my seeds (Photo Periods) indoors with light at 15/9 so that when I put them outdoors June 1st, The lights on hours will be the same. Obviously ill be synching up the lights on/off same time as nature. Ive been getting told outdoor growing is fun as well. Of course ill be growing in my tent indoors as well(Auto Flowers) LOL. Happy growing!!

 

[Droppinplates84]

Those are some nice looking tomatoes. Is that current?

Last year lol