African Black Magic/ Ituri Norie

grnmtn · Oct 10, 2021

One was a total landrace, leafy bud that isn't very appealing yet.
The 2 others were much better one even being pretty dank and sticky when dried.

It's not one hit weed. Multiple hits brings a nice buzz from 2 of 3 phenos.

Different and unique for me at least but again, not mind bending or even very psychedelic out of my 3.

grnmtn · Oct 10, 2021

I had much higher expectations, I'll try some more in the future, maybe outside might do better things to it than I could do indoors?

I'm not complaining as it's all part of the game.

grnmtn · Oct 10, 2021

Oh, one of my friends really enjoys it but she has never had the real thing.

So basing it on that, I guess it's pretty good.

grnmtn · Oct 10, 2021

If there is a pheno that is twice as potent and dank smelling/ tasting it could be the same as I had because one does resemble it.

jimihendrixsantana · Oct 10, 2021

i apprechiate your honest and critical report!

But it sounds like you couldnt identify the "fakenes" . PRobably theyre legit, and i wish they relase alot more Landrace "style" Cultivars, especially old ones, that never were on the market and we have read about so long, but never got a Taste of it-

extractoilminussixty · Oct 10, 2021

extractoilminussixty said:
I think I’ll germinate the purple African as well as remaining Bam seeds…I’ll be praying to the seed god for 2 females…?

Maybe make Bam hash…

jimihendrixsantana · Oct 10, 2021

Landrace cultivars can , acording the people take higher numbers to find a killer one. They are often less aperant, and a bit subtile in Effect.
So, probably you find a better pheno in the offspring, one thats very good.
Esyest taktik is to take a clone of a killer pheno. of course. And keep it. Way easyer than tring to select for it.

I think one just needs to have very full Spectrum lights, the closest to sunlight.. PRobably add some uv. So you imitate the Climate well. Outdoors at north sunintensity is overall lower/Lightspectrum full. So, the lowered Sunintensity may prevent high quality too..

jimihendrixsantana · Oct 10, 2021

I just remeber: for equatorial LAndraces people had higher potency with very maxed out strong lighting. I read it alot. Give them Watts

grnmtn · Oct 10, 2021

I had some serious light on them

extractoilminussixty · Oct 10, 2021

extractoilminussixty said:
Maybe make Bam hash…

Some of my lower quality dry shake hash I’ll call it. “Dumb Gum Hash” because I apply a layer of Hash Oil on it, then Roll it up in a ball put it in parchment paper and forget about it pretty well dries out over time, but gets a gummy feel to it …& Pacs a Wallop…..!

Phenohunter420 · Oct 10, 2021

extractoilminussixty said:
That is interesting…I know some of the Western Asian or Himalayan mountain areas strains from a article I read & written by a Landrace hunter —who had Noticed one black or purple plant in a field of green plants. He wasn’t real clear if he got the seeds from it, but that was his objective to isolate that dark Pheno…
So I’m not saying that currently Bam is not unique in black, but I wonder if many maybe hundreds of years ago local natives isolated & preserved a unique Pheno & praised the “Black plant” ???
But as you all know I’m no expert, Pheno u got the contacts & 1st hand knowledge

((Forgot to mention this Lanrace hunters search was way back I believe in the 1970s))

Anyway I read this fascinating article today in a magazine called Science News September 11, 2021
Article
“The Seed of An Idea”
(Holy Plasma Batman look at my plants/Buds )!!

To reduce the man made energy eco print & literally green things up
that’s right plasma bombardment of seeds to increase agricultural yield, humm where else could that be used

Excerpt: last paragraph interesting
View attachment 1177179

Since you also seem to be the intellectual type, I wanted to give a thoughtful response... Growing up the son of a hippy and amateur chemist, I learned about every drug and plant that is psychoactive. My dad was making THC honey oil before I was even born almost 48 years ago! Anyways, I learned about many cultures that embrace hallucinogenic, psychedelic and entheogenic plants! ALMOST every culture through out history has used some kind of psychoactive substance, often reserved for the Shaman, Chief, Priest or Witch Doctor! The psychedelic effects help them transition into the spirit world in order to see visions and even divination. So, ABSOLUTELY, a rare black phenotype, especially if it's extra SUPER potent, is going to be considered sacred! The high priest/cheif might not want even his OWN tribal villagers to indulge, let alone outsiders to get it!
With that being said, my friend in Africa did say he was going to phenohunt for an African landrace strain called DEATH! He said they use it to go into a trance to enter the spirit world! Indicating to him that it's probably high in THCV! I'm trying to get that one too, but he hasn't gone on the expedition yet. He just moved, so I think he will go in the near future, or hope so anyways.
Very intriguing about the plasma treated seeds. I will see what info I can dig up.... Question is WHAT kind of plasma? Electrical...?
Happy growing brother!

extractoilminussixty · Oct 10, 2021

Phenohunter420 said:
Since you also seem to be the intellectual type, I wanted to give a thoughtful response... Growing up the son of a hippy and amateur chemist, I learned about every drug and plant that is psychoactive. My dad was making THC honey oil before I was even born almost 48 years ago! Anyways, I learned about many cultures that embrace hallucinogenic, psychedelic and entheogenic plants! ALMOST every culture through out history has used some kind of psychoactive substance, often reserved for the Shaman, Chief, Priest or Witch Doctor! The psychedelic effects help them transition into the spirit world in order to see visions and even divination. So, ABSOLUTELY, a rare black phenotype, especially if it's extra SUPER potent, is going to be considered sacred! The high priest/cheif might not want even his OWN tribal villagers to indulge, let alone outsiders to get it!
With that being said, my friend in Africa did say he was going to phenohunt for an African landrace strain called DEATH! He said they use it to go into a trance to enter the spirit world! Indicating to him that it's probably high in THCV! I'm trying to get that one too, but he hasn't gone on the expedition yet. He just moved, so I think he will go in the near future, or hope so anyways.
Very intriguing about the plasma treated seeds. I will see what info I can dig up.... Question is WHAT kind of plasma? Electrical...?
Happy growing brother!

It’s over my head…I didn’t even know Plasma was a 4th state of matter…
Maybe google the article

((I remember red or appeared red hash oil in the 70s, back then we just wiped it on rolling papers & twisted one up…!))

VoodooChild · Oct 11, 2021

Interesting story about THC if you want high THCV strains you have Jack the Ripper or even THC victory a very recent strain that is almost 10% thcv ! The trip
must be very special, and the price is special too...

As a pure monotheist I'm really sceptic about divination and this kind of thing, I believe this is more an exploration of human soul wich is a great miracle. And all these legends about communication with astral beings well I suppose it's probably a trick of the demons at
worst or maybe a call of the angels. All the stuff about false divinities is bullshit and a poison for the soul and mental
health. Don't tell me a chaman is a man of pure wisdom, it's basically a kind of weirdo or a freak, we are not living in the middle of the jungle for God's sake

shaganja · Oct 11, 2021

grnmtn said:
If there is a pheno that is twice as potent and dank smelling/ tasting it could be the same as I had because one does resemble it.

Thanks grnmtn!

Phenohunter420 · Oct 13, 2021

Update...
Of the 2 BAM plants, the taller one is just starting to finish. The other is not finishing yet... seems to be shortflowering cycle of about 8 weeks, like an Indica. Height and structure more like Sativa.
I will be putting my cover back on my greenhouse tomorrow to finish them.
Bud and plant structure resembles a hybrid. DEFINITELY NOT a pure Sativa! Buds are semi-dense with sticky resin. Virtually NO black on it!!! (Tiny tips of a calyx or few... barely worth mentioning...)

Smoke report: Still a little bit premature so NO opinion YET!

First 2 pics are BAM.
3rd pic DJ Short Blueberry from seed.
4th pic is of my own strain Critical Blue OG XXL autoflower! Look how BLACK it is!!! (Magic!) WAY more black than the BAM! And FROSTY too! Less than 2 weeks intoflowering cycle!

extractoilminussixty · Oct 19, 2021

Phenohunter420 said:
Update...
Of the 2 BAM plants, the taller one is just starting to finish. The other is not finishing yet... seems to be shortflowering cycle of about 8 weeks, like an Indica. Height and structure more like Sativa.
I will be putting my cover back on my greenhouse tomorrow to finish them.
Bud and plant structure resembles a hybrid. DEFINITELY NOT a pure Sativa! Buds are semi-dense with sticky resin. Virtually NO black on it!!! (Tiny tips of a calyx or few... barely worth mentioning...)

Smoke report: Still a little bit premature so NO opinion YET!

First 2 pics are BAM.
3rd pic DJ Short Blueberry from seed.
4th pic is of my own strain Critical Blue OG XXL autoflower! Look how BLACK it is!!! (Magic!) WAY more black than the BAM! And FROSTY too! Less than 2 weeks intoflowering cycle! View attachment 1178503 View attachment 1178504 View attachment 1178505 View attachment 1178502

Pheno,
Well how are they doing one week later?
(Chilly nights there)!

Off Subject, but I thought some of you might enjoy this-
((I found this interesting study some of you may have seen it maybe not?
It appears Durban Poison & Chemdog are the winners (Chemdog surprised me).
GSC was spot on for me…I’m glad I bred my most Sativa GSC females with the OG Kush Sativa Dominant Pheno pollen I saved, I’m hoping for good things.

Original research
Open Access
Published: 07 June 2019. Article: Genetic tools weed out misconceptions of strain reliability in Cannabis sativa:implications for a budding industry**

** one Of the many results tables they used:
Genotype 1 = Sativa Dominance percentage conclusion
Genotype 2 = Indica Dominance percentage conclusion
CONCLUSION—

Strain	Abbr	# Samples	Sativa Percentage	Genotype 1 (% average)	Genotype 2 (% average)	Standard Deviation
Durban Poisona	DuPo	9	100	86	14	9.9
Hawaiian	Hawa	2	90	61	39	27.58
Sour Diesela	SoDi	7	90	14	86	53.74
Trainwreck	TrWr	2	90	59	41	21.92
Island Sweet Skunk	ISS	3	80	93	7	9.19
AK-47	AK47	3	65	55	45	7.07
Golden Goatab	GoGo	7	65	68	32	2.12
Green Crackb	GrCr	3	65	60	40	3.54
Bruce Bannera	BrBa	6	60	19	81	28.99
Floa	Flo	4	60	38	62	15.56
Jillybean	JiBe	3	60	73	27	9.19
Pineapple Expressa	PiEx	5	60	62	38	1.41
Purple Haze	PuHa	3	60	77	23	12.02
Tangerine	Tang	2	60	53	47	4.95
Jack Herer	JaHe	3	55	66	34	7.78
OG Kushab	OGKu	4	55	28	72	19.09
Blue Dreamab	BlDr	9	50	80	20	21.21
Tahoe OG	TaOG	4	50	26	74	16.97
Chemdawga	ChDa	7	45	9	91	25.46
Headband	HeBa	2	45	57	43	8.49
Banana Kusha	BaKu	4	40	52	48	8.49
Girl Scout Cookiesab	GSC	8	40	25	75	10.61
Jack Flash	JaFl	2	40	96	4	39.6
Larry OG	LaOG	3	40	7	93	23.33
G-13	G13	3	30	50	50	14.14
Lemon Dieselb	LeDi	2	30	85	15	38.89
Hash Plant	HaPl	4	20	37	63	12.02
Pre98-Bubba Kush	PBK	2	15	7	93	5.66
Grape Ape	GrAp	2	0	55	45	38.89
Purple Kushab	PuKu

VoodooChild · Oct 19, 2021

What do they mean by sativa genotype ?

extractoilminussixty · Oct 19, 2021

VoodooChild said:
What do they mean by sativa genotype ?

In general, The particular strain is a Sativa dominant plant VS Indica dominant plant.
It gets complicated :(
Good Article to read from:
Dutch Passion Seeds

Understanding cannabis phenotypes, genotypes and chemotypes

(Sativa’s lean towards a head high Euphoric, psychedelic, etc high.
Supposedly purple haze strain got its name from Jimi Hendrix, who claimed to get a psychedelic extreme high after smoking it versus other strains !?!
That’s a story I read anyways)

extractoilminussixty · Oct 19, 2021

Bud porn, Hopefully my next BAM attempt will result in some juicy female buds…GSCautos, these are the ones I crossed with OG Kush sativa dominant Pheno & got some good seeds…

the rrock · Oct 19, 2021

what is BAM?

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