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GanjaGardner said:100 da veg
herbalizor said:But from my experience and others I know. The Airpots are a once only event
That's actually kinda what I've heard too.[/QUOTE]Originally Posted by herbalizor
But from my experience and others I know. The Airpots are a once only event
No prob and I don't feel put down by the comment but I do feel you skirted around the point of my post-> With hundreds of available holes to anchor wire hooks into, LSTing is a quick, easy and very precise process. Of course, that isn't why we use airpots but it's an extra little perk that I thought worth mentioning.100?!
Not to be a dick dude, I mean in a certain absolute sense that plant certainly looks nice - but a plain hydrobucket will put out a plant that size in 30 or 40 days easy-peasy.
GanjaGardener said:Sorry, I'm just the messenger here, but that's just not right. Airpots are reusable. Even w/o knowing anything about them one could reasonably assume that there would be no market for them if they were a one shot deal- not at their price. Are you sure we're talking about the same product?
GanjaGardener said:I don't know if I could achieve the same structure in 30-40 days or how easy-peasy it would be, but if speed and size were a primary concern I'd grow in an oxygen rich, H20 substrate, juice my plants w/ synthetics and hit em' up w/ some PGR's, but that's not my thing.
GanjaGardener said:Do you grow organically or work w/ soil web principles?
GanjaGardener said:Have the plants you're talking about been topped, lollipopped, LSTd and judiciously pruned @30-40 das?
How many total cuts have you taken from yours @ 30 or 40 days? How many from the growth tips up top?
I'm bout to do a run using these from start to finish. Seedlings are starting directly in the 0.8L pots. Then will finish in the 5 gallon size.
I experimented with the Smart Pots/ Roots fabric pots. Those things suck IMO. Hope the Air Pots come through. If not, live and learn.
I'm in soil too.
ganjagardener said:OK. I get all of that but what was the point of your OP? To confirm a report that some people don't like airpots so they only use them once? that airpots apparently suck? (or so you've heard?) That yer growing chops are better than mine based upon a picture? What's the big hang-up about 100 days? Do you assume that 100 days is my standard veg time? Do you make it a habit of going out of your way to critique others and make meaningless comparisons that have no connection to the topic or my OP? I think you get off on irritating people, don't you?
Ive ran a similar run as you are planning. If space for veg is not an issue, it is better to skip the graduating when using the airpots and go into a larger one right out of the gate. I suggest you start with 12.5L. Reason; for the plants to truly maximize production in the airpots the root system needs to hit the holes and dry/prune and lateral branch. This occurs very quickly in the .8L pots. So much that you'll realize upon transplant that you have a solid mass of roots. When you transplant the roots are so thoroughly trained that they have a hard time growing into the fresh soil/coco. They will eventually it just slow. The larger pot will sustain a 4 to 6 week veg and serve you well until harvest.
In side by side with Urkles with the AP 12.5L vs a standard 3 gal nursery pot with GO Nutes and coco based soil recipe, the airpot out performed the standard by 25 to 30%. The airpots will use more water and nutes because the root system is so vast due the increased availability of O2.
As far tying branches down. We tried tying through the holes (pain inthe ass). Ended up taking shock cord (available at ace etc) or bungees and tying them around the pot. The outer pointing cones are perfect to wrap around. Then tie off branch down to cord. To bring the branch down you just move the cord down to the next course or two of the outward pointing cones.
My .02.
Good Luck, Grow Hard
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ganjagardener said:Sorry Folks-
I've been goaded.
This is OT- wasn't grown in an airpot, but I'm posting in hopes that this guy will get off my back,
ganjagardener said:that's all I been tryin' to tell u dude. yeah and 8 weeks veg is like way, way too long. if i vegged for 8 weeks my plants would be a real mess- like at least twice as big as yers dude. 4-5 LBs? i'd get at least 12 LBs outta mine
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