Alien Genetics - Grow Log from Seed - Pure Coco, CO2

Capulator · Sep 18, 2012

The need for 2 screens in my experience means the plants are too big or leggy. Best is to get one screen full. Just my opinion though. With multiple strains running the first time it may be a safer bet, but if you can learn the plant stretch limits, you can flip with enough empty screen to fill during stretch, chop out all the underbrush, and enjoy a blanket of flowers with easier access and less take down time.

always clean though nMEEKS. Looking forward to the end.

Oh yeah... youshoudl isolate a male or two if you haev another room somewhere. Then you coudl do a little pollen chuckin with a paint brush and make some white grenades, fire grenades, urkle grenades, and lemon grenades. You woudl be blowing shit up with those beans!!

nMEEKS · Sep 18, 2012

Capulator said:
The need for 2 screens in my experience means the plants are too big or leggy. Best is to get one screen full. Just my opinion though. With multiple strains running the first time it may be a safer bet, but if you can learn the plant stretch limits, you can flip with enough empty screen to fill during stretch, chop out all the underbrush, and enjoy a blanket of flowers with easier access and less take down time.

always clean though nMEEKS. Looking forward to the end.

Oh yeah... youshoudl isolate a male or two if you haev another room somewhere. Then you coudl do a little pollen chuckin with a paint brush and make some white grenades, fire grenades, urkle grenades, and lemon grenades. You woudl be blowing shit up with those beans!!

I agree with you on the screens Cap, although I do think LST of some fashion is needed below the final screen layer, the need for two screens is really just because I have never grown either of these strains before, and heard that the Lemon Alien Dawg especially can stretch quite a bit. In my past grows, I replaced the twistie-tie LST that I would do early on with a very very low first screen layer (2-3inches above the media level maximum) when I would transplant into larger pots, then have just one real main screen that was intented to place colas for support and light penetration. This grow however, I transplanted to 7 gallon pots and continued to LST with twistie-ties while I was waiting for clones to root and for a few final 7 gallon pots to arrive. . . . in the 4 days I waited, thanks to your help with the JRPeters lineup, my plants tripled in size and so they were completely over veg'ed by what I used to call a weeks worth of growth, but in this case was 1 or 2 days worth of growth! Thus I ended up going with a full 2 layer screen setup to keep things in check. The screens are only about 10 inches apart though, so the first layer was really just to help train the branches on their way to the second screen, which can be lowered into its final position at the end of stretch! I plan to clean out all the growth below the first screen in the next day or 2, and hope that there will be roughly 12-16 inches of canopy depth at the end.

I should have kept one of the other male Alien Grenades that also looked great, but I killed all but one final male clone of my favorite AG plant and it is too small for cuts at the moment. Maybe it will be used to make some freebies for logic to give out with orders on The Farm, but for now I have no plans to call myself a breeder anytime soon.

I appreciate your constructive feedback as always Cap and hope to see you around as these girls start really flowering!

nMEEKS · Sep 20, 2012

Quick Update: I just went on a rampage removing any leaves and new growth coming from parts of the main stems below the first screen layer! You can really see right up these girls skirts now. . . hoping I didn't clean out too much, but I have a feeling it was just enough! 4-5 more inches of stretch would make me very happy, anymore than that and I won't be able to keep my lights as far away as I like.

I'll take some pictures tomorrow or Friday to show you guys what it all looks like. I hope everyone else is doing well!

-Meeks

GenghisDon · Sep 20, 2012

I want to wipe a booger in there so it isn't perfect anymore.

nMEEKS · Sep 20, 2012

GenghisDon said:
I want to wipe a booger in there so it isn't perfect anymore.

Haha, thanks for making my morning Don!

ProdigyGrower · Sep 20, 2012

looks great brother nicely done lots of frosty dank comin for sure!!!!

nMEEKS · Sep 20, 2012

ProdigyGrower said:
looks great brother nicely done lots of frosty dank comin for sure!!!!

Thanks Prodigy, I hope so! I kept staring at my plants after cleaning out all the lower leaves and growth I removed yesterday, and I got a little worried that I was over estimating the stretch still to come and cleared out too much. . . . but then I went in this morning before class to check on them and every top was another inch or two taller, so they haven't started to slow down yet, which made me very relieved!

Oceanside · Sep 20, 2012

Cleanliness is next to DANKNESS!!!!!!!!!!! Fire in motion is what we have here.. Love it meeksy..

nMEEKS · Sep 21, 2012

Oceanside said:
Cleanliness is next to DANKNESS!!!!!!!!!!! Fire in motion is what we have here.. Love it meeksy..

Couldn't agree more OC! Thanks for the kind words. Here are some photos I took tonight about 10 min before lights out after what I hope is my last time super cropping. I have been supper cropping the leading branches daily for a week+ now and they bounce back so fast even if I break them like crazy! My canopy isn't going to be perfect, but I'm more than happy with how nicely both tables have filled in for this run!

You can see that some tops are more advanced in flowering than others on different plants.

Alien Grenades + Assorted Clones:

Lemon Alien Dawgs:

-Meeks:cool:

soserthc1 · Sep 21, 2012

what day are they on meeks... still looking stellar .. you mentioned you go to horticulture class, I am interested in going also... IYHO. is it something worth while and benifical to this field.. keep in mind i'm in a non legal state as of now and just wanna be as educated on plant life as possible as it fasinates me.. and hopefully i can put it to use in the future. Hell i would even run a regular flower store and have a little something else going on elsewhere , would make for a good front.... all is looking AWESOME . BRO... peace soser

nMEEKS · Sep 21, 2012

soserthc1 said:
what day are they on meeks... still looking stellar .. you mentioned you go to horticulture class, I am interested in going also... IYHO. is it something worth while and benifical to this field.. keep in mind i'm in a non legal state as of now and just wanna be as educated on plant life as possible as it fasinates me.. and hopefully i can put it to use in the future. Hell i would even run a regular flower store and have a little something else going on elsewhere , would make for a good front.... all is looking AWESOME . BRO... peace soser

Thanks Soser! I can hardly find the words to explain the benefits of my classes. . . The massive amount of hands on experience, without the fear/risk of economic failure, with experienced and knowledgable professors around to guide you is extremely valuable in my opinion! It's funny that you would use it as a front, I guess that's kinda what I have in mind also, but I prefer to dream of it as a lavish floral business that offers affordable prices to public customers because it is supplemented by my behind the scenes cannabis growing. . . which would keep both businesses functioning within the current law of non-profit!

Anyways, I was debating sharing these photos because they are outside of my grow room and I like to keep photos on topic, but since a couple people have asked me about the horticulture thing I might as well show off a little of what I have been doing besides growing weed this last year. (Please don't be stupid and say something about the location if you know it, then I would be forced to take these down)

A few girls in my major and I worked on an independent project starting last winter where we contacted a bunch of commercial seed companies and asked if there were any new varieties they wanted to show off or trial in our area. We received hundreds of different varieties over the next few weeks as donations and sprouted them in our greenhouses. While they were getting up to size, we marked out, tilled, and amended 16 planting beds in roughly a 50'x100' area of the grass field. After installing irrigation and constructing a shade structure for 4 of the beds, the plants had grown to size and we planted them into the field last May. The space we had allowed for us to trial and display over 200 different varieties, each with its own 3'x'3 plot. The garden was maintained over the summer and is just reaching the end of full bloom now in late September!

This was how a field on campus looked 9 months ago:

And then after doing everything I just described, we had made our mark on campus and had this to brag about:

And now, because I think there are probably a bunch of people who will appreciate more flower pictures, here are a bunch more photos I took 2 days ago in the late afternoon.

(.....More photos coming in next post)

nMEEKS · Sep 21, 2012

Oh, and my girls in the grow room are on day 13 or 14 in those photos I think Soser.

I hope you liked the photos, and maybe you should sign up for some classes if what I showed/said seems interesting.

-Meeks:D

Goodsen Cranium · Sep 21, 2012

STUNNING.:D Great work and beautiful pictures! Appreciate you sharing, Meeks!

soserthc1 · Sep 21, 2012

CANT SAY IT ANY BETTER STUNNING, don't get me wrong bro, I have a love for all plant life that is why growing came so natural to me. I would absolutly be interested in running a flower shop also as I am in aw of the way plants grow. It's amazing to come out in the morning and see a weed in your lawn, that was not there the day before but managed to grow two feet over night. Even before I even was involved in growing I had the nicest lawn around , ponds in my yard and found nothing more relaxing after a hard day at work to come home and work in my garden , install new bushes , cut the grass to the left one day then to the right the next, of course I did this while enjoying a few beverages but absolutley love it. When the economy hit us and we had to sell , that is the think i missed the most my yard. So we are on the same page with that I just started a family really early and never had the oppurtunity to further my education trying to keep up with the jones's but me and wife are way past that now. We will always live within our means now and are currently looking to purchase are 4th home , I would say fourth and final home but being I also now have a passion for growing marijuana, If in the next few years my state does not catch up with the other medical states (starting a program early 2013 but with strictest laws and no self cultivation) As soon as my 16 yr old is out of college or comfortable on her own. We will be moving to a medical state. Thanks Meeks, I have not been in school since 1988 do you think I will need to take some basic classes before I take Horticulture class or would a general knowledge of flowers and a passion for it be enough. Respect SoSer

nMEEKS · Sep 21, 2012

Goodsen Cranium said:
STUNNING.:D Great work and beautiful pictures! Appreciate you sharing, Meeks!

Thanks Lady Goods, I'm glad you like them!

soserthc1 said:
CANT SAY IT ANY BETTER STUNNING, don't get me wrong bro, I have a love for all plant life that is why growing came so natural to me. I would absolutly be interested in running a flower shop also as I am in aw of the way plants grow. It's amazing to come out in the morning and see a weed in your lawn, that was not there the day before but managed to grow two feet over night. Even before I even was involved in growing I had the nicest lawn around , ponds in my yard and found nothing more relaxing after a hard day at work to come home and work in my garden , install new bushes , cut the grass to the left one day then to the right the next, of course I did this while enjoying a few beverages but absolutley love it. When the economy hit us and we had to sell , that is the think i missed the most my yard. So we are on the same page with that I just started a family really early and never had the oppurtunity to further my education trying to keep up with the jones's but me and wife are way past that now. We will always live within our means now and are currently looking to purchase are 4th home , I would say fourth and final home but being I also now have a passion for growing marijuana, If in the next few years my state does not catch up with the other medical states (starting a program early 2013 but with strictest laws and no self cultivation) As soon as my 16 yr old is out of college or comfortable on her own. We will be moving to a medical state. Thanks Meeks, I have not been in school since 1988 do you think I will need to take some basic classes before I take Horticulture class or would a general knowledge of flowers and a passion for it be enough. Respect SoSer

Yeah, chasing the more relaxed laws is kind of a funny game growers have to play. Thanks for the kind words. I think it is probably never too late for school, and horticulture is such a practical science that a majority of what you learn comes from application. . . but depending on how strong of a student you used to be, it may take a little time to get back into the swing of formal writing for papers and what-not. I think the best part about being a student is that you are literally paying for experts to be around to help you learn if you don't get it. If you already knew everything before going in, it would be a waste of time, they expect you not to know stuff and are surprisingly patient. Thanks for all your interest Soser!

nMEEKS · Sep 26, 2012

Well The Farm may have been down for a short while, but my ladies didn't take a second off! I will have a bunch of photos that are more recent to post Friday, but for now here are some shots I took a couple days ago and didn't have a chance to put up yet! The Jacks from JRPeters combined with these insane beans from Alien Genetics is really starting to make me think this is going to put a couple of my previous seed runs to shame!

Day 16:

And here is a very cool mutation where 2 out of the 3 cell layers in the meristem (actively growing tissue) have been lost due to the mutation. . . the result is an albino leaf on a bud site, and some mottling on a fan leaf from the bud site. The two cell layers that were lost happen to be the only two cell layers that produce chlorophyll so now that cells growing from that mutation lack any green pigment! Theoretically you could tissue culture a sample from that mutation and eventually have an albino clone. . . .but because it would be producing no chlorophyll it wouldn't be able to generate its own energy and would eventually die. In my case, I get the best of both worlds. . . I will get a bud that has significantly less chlorophyll produced than usual because of the mutation, but will still be fed by the rest of the plant that has plenty of chlorophyll to share :) so after a good flush and proper cure, that one individual bud might be the best tasting, sweetest, and potentially most potent bud in my garden!!

As I said at the top, more recent photos coming Friday. And these girls have gone crazy in the lsat 2 days, so I'm sure it will be a serious update to bring on the weekend!

-Meeks:D

soserthc1 · Sep 26, 2012

All looks well nmeeks. , flowers look healthy , room looks awesome and they (Alien Genetic's) do take off fast plus have some of the thickest stems I have ever encountered. I had a tomato cage around them and took it off yesterday, Figured they would get more lumens and there was no way, these buds would need support on these stems...... Peace Soser

nMEEKS · Sep 26, 2012

soserthc1 said:
All looks well nmeeks. , flowers look healthy , room looks awesome and they (Alien Genetic's) do take off fast plus have some of the thickest stems I have ever encountered. I had a tomato cage around them and took it off yesterday, Figured they would get more lumens and there was no way, these buds would need support on these stems...... Peace Soser

Yeah, I have been experiencing the same thing, just absolutely massive stems coming from a couple of my Lemon Alien Dawg ladies. I set up my PVC screen with support on each corner to prevent the screen from going any lower than where I placed it, but the plants are so beastly that they are literally holding up the entire screen weight on their own because they lifted it off the supports during stretch! I kinda wish I had the Lemon Alien Dawgs under my Dual-Arc bulb, because I get way better pictures when I don't have to have to white balance super tweaked for under the orange HPS glow, and a they are really showing off their early flowers with a heavy trichome coating now! Anyways, thanks as usual for checking in and for the kind words Soser!

Goodsen Cranium · Sep 26, 2012

What's good Meeks!? Gotta say your description of the mutation is wildly amazing. I love your deeper understanding. Thank you for your explanation. I can't wait to see how that bud develops. Everything else is looking lush, uniform. Awesome.

nMEEKS · Sep 26, 2012

Goodsen Cranium said:
What's good Meeks!? Gotta say your description of the mutation is wildly amazing. I love your deeper understanding. Thank you for your explanation. I can't wait to see how that bud develops. Everything else is looking lush, uniform. Awesome.

Hey Goods, thanks for reading the geeky info I post, sometimes I get just a little too excited about the different mutations that occur in my garden! I will definitely have my eye on that bud as it develops so I'll keep you posted. The plants are currently being flushed at 1.0 EC with my normal ratio 3g Hydro, 1.8g Cal-Nit, 1g Epsom, .1-.2g MOST and are putting on a stinky fresh layer of trichomes and starting to stack bud sites like crazy!! The reason I am giving them a flush, other than the fact that I always flush at 2 weeks, is because the bud leaves along the edges of each tray have gotten a decent curl to them from excess nitrogen. It's always a tough balance between deficiency in the center of the tray (much closer to the light requires more nutrients) and toxicity on the edges of the tray (farther from the bulb means more sensitive to salt because of lower nutrient requirements), but so far this run has gone a bit on the toxicity side, which I am ok with. Thanks for the kind words and check back Friday for lots of new pictures!

Alien Genetics - Grow Log from Seed - Pure Coco, CO2

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Capulator

likes to smell trees.

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Horticulturist

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GenghisDon

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ProdigyGrower

Alien Junkie and bush master

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Oceanside

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soserthc1

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Goodsen Cranium

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Alien Genetics - Grow Log from Seed - Pure Coco, CO2

Alien Genetics - Grow Log from Seed - Pure Coco, CO2

Capulator

likes to smell trees.

nMEEKS

Horticulturist

nMEEKS

Horticulturist

GenghisDon

nMEEKS

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ProdigyGrower

Alien Junkie and bush master

nMEEKS

Horticulturist

Oceanside

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soserthc1

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nMEEKS

Horticulturist

Goodsen Cranium

soserthc1

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