Junk said:

That is what the doctors currently hypothesize. Most people with FMS/CFS it comes on after a trauma. For me, it was that horrific anxiety attack/nervous breakdown...whatever you want to qualify it as. However I've had hundreds, if anything closer to 500, anxiety attacks. Some so severe I have to go to the hospital, even on anxiety meds. The event of that night was very different than all anxiety attacks I've had. I thought that I was going to be in the mental ward for the rest of my life. My body & my mind were separating, & I had no way of knowing whether it would come back.

Anyway, they suspect that, for some people, they may have the mutations, but not show any symptoms. They may never show any symptoms. But if something trips those mutations into action, a physical trauma (car accident, a fall, surgery), or an emotional trauma (divorce, death of a loved one, job loss). That people will tend to display symptoms that are in line with their mthfr mutations.

I know that mine, are dead on. Everything I have is linked to those mutations, & I don't suffer from anything that isn't. & they are rather distinctive. Epilepsy? That's pretty specific. Never had a seizure in my life until 6 years ago. & as i said, I was diagnosed with these illnesses way before the mthfr became known. I realize I am an anecdote, but I find it extremely compelling that my mutations, & what they largely indicate for problems, are exactly what I experience.

Now, I just hope they can find a way to fix it, or at least help it.

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The trauma causing symptoms to appear I have to agree with. My illnesses only started after my trauma. I was fine before that. When something happens that completely overwhelms a person then a psychic break is gonna happen. Thing is unless you've been there and felt it it's hard for ppl to relate too. They have no understanding of what you have been through and are still going through. Once broken though can a soul ever be repaired? How can they treat u when they don't get it. I was lucky to have counselling from ppl who had been through the same as me. They really understood me but they can't help me medically. I really hope u find some answers out there to help you.

420 lyfePpP said:

I had trainwrek and that was good for head space . BB. OG and blueberry punch blue dream was pretty good. Done a bit of purple kush for pain . Kings kush. BC god bud is supposed to be great for pain . . Startin it now . Good luck with your surgery . Peace and good vibes to u. 420lyfe PpP

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Thank u for the recommendations. Much appreciated. I had my surgery 10 days ago. 24 hrs after surgery my disc popped out again . So now I'm in worse pain than before. 6 weeks on strong meds if still the same surgery again. Thank u for the peace and good vibes. I really need them at the moment.

420 lyfePpP said:

It's been said that the government in the 60s knew what R.S.O could do and have a patent on cannabis oil.

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I watched a video about ww1 British soldiers that had cannabis given to them in large doses for tests. It showed a lot of happy giggly soldiers. I don't know why they did this... the video didn't explain. Tbh I don't even know 100% if it was genuine but I wouldn't be surprised. That would have been around 1914 to 1918.

kbellfoy said:

I watched a video about ww1 British soldiers that had cannabis given to them in large doses for tests. It showed a lot of happy giggly soldiers. I don't know why they did this... the video didn't explain. Tbh I don't even know 100% if it was genuine but I wouldn't be surprised. That would have been around 1914 to 1918.

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Link please!!!!!!

kbellfoy said:

Sounds like a layer cake....those on the bottom don't get much. That's really sad that any system is run like that. No wonder crime rates are rising. I don't know your meds like I said but the anti depressants over here all come with a warning. MAY CAUSE SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS. I mean really...come on. Why give that to ppl already on the edge? So is it a long process over in the USA too? I think you absolutely right about some getting better treatment. It's not what u know but who u know. Nepotism at its best.

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I'm from canada, I'm supposed to take several pills a day siraquil and clonazipam . . Seizure meds 3 different ones blood thinner bunch of pain (3) man depressed jus think of it. All diagnosed with a few problems, but we fight on . My wife is my 24 hr a day nurse☺ lol. Well caregiver. She's been through it all with me. If she wasn't there I wouldn't be here.
Peace and good vibes ☺ 420 lyfePpP

kbellfoy said:

Thank u for the recommendations. Much appreciated. I had my surgery 10 days ago. 24 hrs after surgery my disc popped out again . So now I'm in worse pain than before. 6 weeks on strong meds if still the same surgery again. Thank u for the peace and good vibes. I really need them at the moment.

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That sucks . Really hope you are not gonna have to get surgery. Peace and many good vibes to u @kbellfoy

cannakis said:

Link please!!!!!!

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It was quite a while ago but I will try and find it for ya.

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I didnt save the video and my mistake it was ww2 so 1945 which is earlier than the sixties. I saved this tho lol. I'm curious about all these secret drug tests. Mostly it was LSD they tested so when cannabis cropped up I was interested. If I didn't save the video it was prob Facebook I saw it.
http://antiquecannabisbook.com/chap03/WWII/TruthSerum.htm

Anyone diagnosed with bipolar schitzo affective disorder or ptsd find that their mood and their depression level directly coincides with weather they have weed and what quality that weed is?
If I dont have some strong daytime up flower then I can not function normally. I am super depressed and do nothing but lay in bed all day and only get up if I have to. If I have some good sativa flower my whole day changes, I am up doing all the things that I would be doing if I didn't have bulging disks and mental issues. It is more than just a blessing, it is a necessity. If it were not for cannabis there would be no way that my family would be able to live with me because I am not a pleasant person to be around when I dont have any and I am almost out.

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Anyone diagnosed with bipolar schitzo affective disorder or ptsd find that their mood and their depression level directly coincides with weather they have weed and what quality that weed is?
If I dont have some strong daytime up flower then I can not function normally. I am super depressed and do nothing but lay in bed all day and only get up if I have to. If I have some good sativa flower my whole day changes, I am up doing all the things that I would be doing if I didn't have bulging disks and mental issues. It is more than just a blessing, it is a necessity. If it were not for cannabis there would be no way that my family would be able to live with me because I am not a pleasant person to be around when I dont have any and I am almost out.

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Most humans walk around THC deficient...our glands can only produce so much cannabinoids and I believe our receptors are thier due to evolving with cannabis for over 10,000 years possibly much longer. That's why scientific method is so important but I wonder if our ancestors cloned plants and kept favorites around for multiple seasons? Clone everything and if your favorite gets threatened or is in any path of a destruction seeds should be made if possible.

Just wanted to give a update.
Last time I posted I was in a weird time. I was on and off my meds causing me much Un needed anxiety.
I have been back in zoloft for a few months and things are getting better.
My PTSD is easier to deal with. The problem I'm having now is ZERO drive to do anything. Just don't want to.
My girlfriend is irritated because I really don't put out anymore. Lol. Honestly I just don't feel like it. This is causing an issue at home.
Anyone else ever have the same issue?

http://naturalsociety.com/antidepressants-cause-your-arteries-to-thicken-400-more-than-aging/
One of the many reasons I refuse to take antidepressants is sexual disfunction. I have been on zoloft and it does the same thing to everyone.

The Full Story
Antidepressants are medications primarily used to treat depression, clinically referred to as "major depressive disorder" or MDD. They are also regularly used to treat many other conditions, such as panic disorder, anxiety, Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD), social phobia, fibromyalgia, night eating syndrome and menopause.

Most scientists believe that depression is caused by an imbalance of neurotransmitters. Humans are constantly releasing, breaking down, and recycling hormones and neurotransmitters that allow us feel emotion. Antidepressants interact with specific neurotransmitters associated with mood balance: serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine.

The use of "mood lifters" has been described since antiquity. Flowers and herbs, such as St. John's Wort were noted to calm people after being applied to wounds. They were subsequently made into teas and tinctures for people to drink. Alcohol, amphetamines, cocaine and opioids also have been historically used to treat depression; they are not recommended today for a variety of reasons, including legal issues and ultimate worsening of depression symptoms.

The first antidepressant drugs were introduced in the 1950s. One was a tricyclic antidepressant (TCA) and the other was a monoamine oxidase inhibitor (MAOI). Their discovery opened the field for exploration of how medications can actually change the behavior of depressed patients, and not just make them feel good momentarily.

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) are typically the first line agent prescribed for depression. In clinical trials, it was shown that SSRIs are just as effective as the TCAs, while having fewer and less severe side effects.

Serotonin is produced in our brains and intestines. It is released into our bodies in response to pleasurable activities, such as being rewarded for work, laughing and eating. Quickly after the serotonin acts on the neuron, and delivers the "feel good" message, it is taken back up into where it was released. Some of the serotonin will be sent right out to work again, some will be broken up into building blocks that will be rebuilt at a later time, and some is discarded. As the name implies, serotonin reuptake inhibitors block the reabsorption of the serotonin so that it remains out in its working form. The theory is that if the serotonin stays out longer, it will make us feel good for longer.

Of course, the system is much more complicated than that. For example, it appears that with an excess of serotonin around, our bodies can become less sensitive to the serotonin signal. Also, serotonin does more than just contribute to how we feel. The serotonin made in the brain only works there, but the serotonin made in the intestines travels around and plays a part in many daily functions of living, from blood clotting to digestion. Sometimes patients who take SSRIs will have unusual effects in other systems because of this, such as easy bruising, sexual dysfunction, or constipation.

Although antidepressants have been in use for several decades now, there are no good predictors for which antidepressant will work best for a person or which side effects they will experience. There is likely an individual chemical and genetic variance that contributes to who does better on which drug. Often, a physician will start by prescribing one SSRI, then try another if needed.

Overall, the SSRIs are quite safe compared to other drugs used for depression in the past. The TCAs can cause serious cardiac rhythm and conduction issues, liver damage and seizures. Before SSRIs were introduced, the TCAs were a leading cause of death by drug overdose.

The most common side effects of SSRIs are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, dry mouth, jitteriness, drowsiness, weight gain, weight loss, decreased sexual desire, and sexual dysfunction.

One of the potential side effects of SSRIs is Serotonin Syndrome (SS). This potentially life-threatening condition is caused by too much serotonin in the body. The symptoms of SS overlap with some of the common side effects of SSRIs and also symptoms of anxiety.

SS most often occurs when there is more than one drug being used that affects the release or uptake of serotonin in the body. Often a patient presenting with SS will have recently added another antidepressant to their regimen, and that precipitates SS. However, other common contributors to SS are illicit drugs, such as cocaine and ecstasy, which have serotonin reuptake inhibition properties. Even dextromethorphan, the active ingredient in many over the counter cough syrups, and tramadol, used for pain, have serotonin reuptake inhibitor activity and can contribute to serotonin toxicity.

SS will typically occur within several hours of starting the new medication. Most often, the medication suspected to be causing the problem will be stopped, reduced or changed.

The early symptoms of SS are nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, sweating, agitation, confusion, muscle rigidity, dilated pupils, shivers, and goose bumps. In serious cases, the symptoms will progress to very high temperature, seizures, irregular heartbeat, and coma.

Although SS is potentially life-threatening, it can be treated in a hospital. Someone who may be experiencing SS should not take any more medicine. He or she should call the doctor or go to the emergency room right away.

The treatment for SS is mostly supportive care. For example, if the patient develops high temperatures, cooling will be attempted in the ER. IV fluids are typically administered, and a class of medications, called benzodiazepines, will be used to calm brain and muscle activity as needed. An antihistamine called cyproheptadine can attach to serotonin receptors and block them from being activated by the serotonin.

Even though SSRIs are generally well tolerated with regular use and even in overdose, two SSRIs, citalopram and escitalopram, have some unique and dangerous side effects and issues in overdose. These drugs are known to cause seizures and a potentially serious heart conduction issue, referred to as QT prolongation. These medications should not be used in people with a history of seizures or QT prolongation.

Some people will only need to be on antidepressants for a short period of time, to address a situational depression. Others may need antidepressants for years. It is very important to take them as they are prescribed. SSRIs typically take about 2 weeks before the positive effects start to be felt. For example, with sertraline (Zoloft®), some results should be felt within about 2 weeks of starting the medication, but the peak response does not occur until approximately 6 weeks.

Just as the SSRIs take time to start, time should also be given to stop them. Suddenly stopping the drugs can cause withdrawal symptoms. A healthcare provider can develop a schedule to discontinue the medication and taper down. Each medication has its own unique chemical profile and a specific plan should be made accordingly.

In 2013, the CDC released "Health, United States, 2013, with Special Feature on Prescription Drugs". This report looked at prescription use by medication class and age group. For ages 18-64, the use of antidepressants increased from 2.2% of people in 1988-1994, to 10.6% of people in 2007-2010. For age 65 and over the use for the same time period increased from 3.0% to 13.7%. To put that into perspective, it is estimated that approximately 1 in 10 Americans takes an antidepressant.

There has been some controversy on antidepressant use and potential overuse. In January of 2010, The Journal of the American Medical Association released a large review of almost 30 years of medical literature examining the effectiveness of antidepressants in treating depression. They found that people with mild or moderate symptoms of depression have a response equal to that of a placebo, meaning they were no better off taking an antidepressant versus nothing at all. However, people with severe symptoms of depression seemed to have been helped by the drugs.

Overall, SSRIs may help many people with a variety of issues. The SSRIs do have side effects, but they are generally well tolerated in comparison to antidepressants used in the past.

If you think someone may have taken an overdose of SSRIs (or any drug), call Poison Control at 1-800-222-1222 right away or log onto webPOISONCONTROL®. Whether you call or log on, expert assistance is available 24 hours a day.

Pela Soto, PharmD, BSHS, BS
Certified Specialist in Poison Information

Not to mention, how they make these antidepressant drugs is they mix hydrogen molecules with sulfuric acid and chlorine. The process of hydrogenating these molecules grows crystals that the scientists call new mollecules that are safe for human consumption, their argument is that after the acid is finished reacting it is no longer dangerous because it has changed in chemical makeup. The government and scientist have known for decades that sulfuric acid causes cancer but they still make caramel color that flavors every dark soda with it. I say if it starts with poison, the end product is poison.

3N1GM4 said:

Anyone diagnosed with bipolar schitzo affective disorder or ptsd find that their mood and their depression level directly coincides with weather they have weed and what quality that weed is?
If I dont have some strong daytime up flower then I can not function normally. I am super depressed and do nothing but lay in bed all day and only get up if I have to. If I have some good sativa flower my whole day changes, I am up doing all the things that I would be doing if I didn't have bulging disks and mental issues. It is more than just a blessing, it is a necessity. If it were not for cannabis there would be no way that my family would be able to live with me because I am not a pleasant person to be around when I dont have any and I am almost out.

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So it really helps you on a daily basis. And in my country for using weed for medicine still makes you a druggie. That's what others call us. I wish they could read things like these posts and see what it really CAN do. That it IS a medicine not a life choice........ sorry rant over.

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So it really helps you on a daily basis. And in my country for using weed for medicine still makes you a druggie. That's what others call us. I wish they could read things like these posts and see what it really CAN do. That it IS a medicine not a life choice........ sorry rant over.

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Hear that . Well we do make a life choice for the health and wellness of our bodies. All those who say we are druggie an such . Yet most go and pop something . And even a Tylenol . They are not different. Only we all admit it has helped us. Those who have slammed it have no desire to admit anything of use. Lol yet they pour themselves a stiff drink at end of day. ✌420lyfe PpP.
@kbellfoy I don't think you're a druggie.!. They just don't know.

420 lyfePpP said:

Hear that . Well we do make a life choice for the health and wellness of our bodies. All those who say we are druggie an such . Yet most go and pop something . And even a Tylenol . They are not different. Only we all admit it has helped us. Those who have slammed it have no desire to admit anything of use. Lol yet they pour themselves a stiff drink at end of day. ✌420lyfe PpP.
@kbellfoy I don't think you're a druggie.!. They just don't know.

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Ah thank you for that. I don't feel like a druggie.....I feel like I'm helping myself in a natural way. I mean hundreds of years ago we only had plants for medicine anyway.

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Ah thank you for that. I don't feel like a druggie.....I feel like I'm helping myself in a natural way. I mean hundreds of years ago we only had plants for medicine anyway.

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They need to let people choose what goes into your body. But what do they know. They are not in our bodies and dont know how it feels. Hope you are feeling well. burn one for you ☺ . The politician (Trudeau ) won and he wants to legalize. Hope it happens. Fingers crossed. ☺

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They need to let people choose what goes into your body. But what do they know. They are not in our bodies and dont know how it feels. Hope you are feeling well. burn one for you ☺ . The politician (Trudeau ) won and he wants to legalize. Hope it happens. Fingers crossed. ☺

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Im not too bad. I hope your well too. Which country are you in if you don't mind me asking?:D

kbellfoy said:

Im not too bad. I hope your well too. Which country are you in if you don't mind me asking?:D

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Just hangin out. I'm in Canada . U?

Is it bad if you tell the social security disability determination psychiatrist that you use medical cannabis every day to combat your disorders? If you live in a non legal state?