Aqua Man's first grow diary

Aqua Man · Jan 1, 2020

Indiva710 said:
u may need too add a 2nd net for this grow since they are still in veg..Could just float the scrog w some ratchet straps and flip the 3 way elbows around add up rights and ur other net and call it a day. But ik u said u wanted to try no scrog next round so not sure if u would want to do that or put some screws in the corners and get a premade net and do it that way.....

Yeah problem will be height so I'm gonna hack and tuck then wait 24 hrs and flip. Still indication of sex so it's going to be interesting once they show.

Indiva710 · Jan 1, 2020

FourthCity said:
I see so many people talking about hydroguard and just wanted to suggest trying great white. Im not going to say it performs way better but after switching from hydroguard about 8 years ago I have not had any root issues, which I couldn't always say before. The best part is it comes in powdered form (aqua, I know you already love powdered nutes, I'll be giving them a shot soon) which is not as susceptible extreme temps, damage, or contamination during shipping and is far less expensive to use. I also feel like it offers a more complete microbial enviroment:
Active Ingredients/Guaranteed Analysis:

Ectomycorriza/gram:

Pisolithus tinctorius.........187,875 propagules per gram

Rhizopagan luteolus……….…5,219 propagules per gram

Rhizopagan fulvigleba…….…5,219 propagules per gram

Rhizopagan villosullus……….5,219 propagules per gram

Rhizopagan amylopogon……5,219 propagules per gram

Scleroderma citrinum…………5,219 propagules per gram

Scleroderma cepa……….………5,219 propagules per gram

Endomycorrhiza/gram:

Glomus aggregatrum……………….83 propagules per gram

Glomus intraradices.……………….83 propagules per gram

Glomus mosseae…….……………….83 propagules per gram

Glomus etunicatum………..……….83 propagules per gram

Glomus clarum……….……………….11 propagules per gram

Glomus monosporum……………..11 propagules per gram

Glomus deserticola………………….11 propagules per gram

Paraglomus brasilianum………….11 propagules per gram

Gigaspora margarita…….………….11 propagules per gram

Contains 525,000 CFU's per gram of the each of the following species:

Azobacter chroococcum, Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus licheniformis, Bacillus azotoformans, Bacillus megaterium, Bacillus coagulens, Bacillus pumilis, Bacillus amyloliquefaciens, Paenibacillus polymyxa, Paenibacillus durum, Saccharomyces cerevisiae, Pseudomonas aureofaciens, Pseudomonas fluorescens

Trichoderma koningii………187,875 propagules per gram

Trichoderma harzianum….125,250 propagules per gram

Shelf Life: 3 years

For hydro ppl they usually use orca as it's liquid made by the same company ....I prefer tribus original for Bennie's for a soil or Coco grow but not in rdwc...And there's really no such thing as a sterile system for growing plants but as being as sterile as can be and whats safe for plants..I don't use h2o2 and I use it pry 1x a week if that and I'm about out and instead I will be using vinegar as it will clean salt build up on the walls and piping etc plus works for pH down however it will be trying citric acid and see how that works instead of vinegar ...And I been using pool shock instead of uc roots and so far so good ...And what works for me doesn't mean it will work for others and vica versa....And not everyone runs their systems the same etc..And I'm ALWAYS TRYING NEW THINGS OUT ETC NEVER STUCK ON ONE THING ONLY..... Which alot of ppl are so set in there ways and refuse to change it which is fine but also GTA try new things out too more than 1 way to paint a car....Skin a cat etc lol

Indiva710 · Jan 1, 2020

Aqua Man said:
Yeah problem will be height so I'm gonna hack and tuck then wait 24 hrs and flip. Still indication of sex so it's going to be interesting once they show.

Wow that's crazy as I have been able to sex all mine but every strain is diff but they are the same age as mine uk but ur plants are bigger than mine but mine was in the cloner up into 3 days ago now and now in veg and got room to spread out and sprout up ...And the males are looking mighty studly lol

FourthCity · Jan 1, 2020

Indiva710 said:
For hydro ppl they usually use orca as it's liquid made by the same company ....I prefer tribus original for Bennie's for a soil or Coco grow but not in rdwc...And there's really no such thing as a sterile system for growing plants but as being as sterile as can be and whats safe for plants..I don't use h2o2 and I use it pry 1x a week if that and I'm about out and instead I will be using vinegar as it will clean salt build up on the walls and piping etc plus works for pH down however it will be trying citric acid and see how that works instead of vinegar ...And I been using pool shock instead of uc roots and so far so good ...And what works for me doesn't mean it will work for others and vica versa....And not everyone runs their systems the same etc..And I'm ALWAYS TRYING NEW THINGS OUT ETC NEVER STUCK ON ONE THING ONLY..... Which alot of ppl are so set in there ways and refuse to change it which is fine but also GTA try new things out too more than 1 way to paint a car....Skin a cat etc lol

Great White has almost twice the variety of active ingredients compared to Orca. I just don't think the liquids perform as well or are as cost effective as the powdered formats when it comes to beneficial bacteria and fungus, regardless of the growing medium.

Indiva710 · Jan 1, 2020

Tribus has 10x both of them put together

Farmer P · Jan 1, 2020

I use great white on my roots at transplant from my cloner to coco and love it. The roots seem to explode. I do wonder though if there are springtail eggs in it. I never had springtails until I used it and now I seem to get them every time. I don't think it's a bad thing since I seem to have great plants even though they are there, but I still wonder. Did they come from the great white or do they like the environment that it provides? Has anyone else notice this?

SPARECHANGE · Jan 1, 2020

never priced, quantity vinegar, as a gear cleanser. ur brave, with the pool product. i have some scale remover and muriatic that's prolly turned mustard gas, by now... but i can't believe i never had an aha moment, over vinegar. I'm siding more with- I'm an idiot vs "GENIUS IDEA!". great call indiva. i see 710 and i think: LA... COWSCHWITZ...

FourthCity · Jan 1, 2020

Indiva710 said:
Tribus has 10x both of them put together

I just checked out their site, they do have very high concentrations but I don't see anything that suggests they have 10x the variety of active ingredients compared to Great White. It looks like they have a few different products, which one were you referring to?

Farmer P said:
I use great white on my roots at transplant from my cloner to coco and love it. The roots seem to explode. I do wonder though if there are springtail eggs in it. I never had springtails until I used it and now I seem to get them every time. I don't think it's a bad thing since I seem to have great plants even though they are there, but I still wonder. Did they come from the great white or do they like the environment that it provides? Has anyone else notice this?

I have not had this issue. I do see the occasional springtail in the unfinished, concrete portion of my basement, but I've never seen them on the finished side where the plants are, let alone in the res.

Aqua Man · Jan 1, 2020

Just gonna say this citrol sledgehammer so far this has been the least temperamental and most vigorous plant I have grown through veg I hope the male to female ratio it a lotto and really excited to see the smoke and yeild. My other crop is ready so I'm holding off trimming these till tomorrow but I think I'm gonna take clones of each to reset the other grow.

MIMedGrower · Jan 1, 2020

Aqua Man said:
Just gonna say this citrol sledgehammer so far this has been the least temperamental and most vigorous plant I have grown through veg I hope the male to female ratio it a lotto and really excited to see the smoke and yeild. My other crop is ready so I'm holding off trimming these till tomorrow but I think I'm gonna take clones of each to reset the other grow.

One of my favorite crosses is Citral x POW 33. They are citral leaning and have the nicest high. And every plant has been vigorous and medium high yielding. And some serious citrus flavor. Just had to share. That ripening flower reveg cutting i had posted was an awesome pinapple tasting one. Like juice it tasted.

Aqua Man · Jan 1, 2020

MIMedGrower said:
One of my favorite crosses is Citral x POW 33. They are citral leaning and have the nicest high. And every plant has been vigorous and medium high yielding. And some serious citrus flavor. Just had to share. That ripening flower reveg cutting i had posted was an awesome pinapple tasting one. Like juice it tasted.

Sounds amazing. I'm very excited to see the finish on this plant.

bunkerking · Jan 1, 2020

Indiva710 said:
For hydro ppl they usually use orca as it's liquid made by the same company ....I prefer tribus original for Bennie's for a soil or Coco grow but not in rdwc...And there's really no such thing as a sterile system for growing plants but as being as sterile as can be and whats safe for plants..I don't use h2o2 and I use it pry 1x a week if that and I'm about out and instead I will be using vinegar as it will clean salt build up on the walls and piping etc plus works for pH down however it will be trying citric acid and see how that works instead of vinegar ...And I been using pool shock instead of uc roots and so far so good ...And what works for me doesn't mean it will work for others and vica versa....And not everyone runs their systems the same etc..And I'm ALWAYS TRYING NEW THINGS OUT ETC NEVER STUCK ON ONE THING ONLY..... Which alot of ppl are so set in there ways and refuse to change it which is fine but also GTA try new things out too more than 1 way to paint a car....Skin a cat etc lol

Check out the blend of baterica in down to earth root zone. It's the cats pajamas. It even has yeast. Love it for coco.

Hydro wise. For aqua. Photo plus? ?

bunkerking · Jan 1, 2020

Farmer P said:
I use great white on my roots at transplant from my cloner to coco and love it. The roots seem to explode. I do wonder though if there are springtail eggs in it. I never had springtails until I used it and now I seem to get them every time. I don't think it's a bad thing since I seem to have great plants even though they are there, but I still wonder. Did they come from the great white or do they like the environment that it provides? Has anyone else notice this?

I'm thinking it's Bacillus. The others have important roles...but Bacillus is king.

Because they produce proteins and amino acids. And thus uptake cal easier, and can build roots insanely fast.

Beachwalker · Jan 1, 2020

bunkerking said:
It's the cats pajamas.

I haven't heard the expression "the cat's pajamas" since 1964! Love it! ☺

bunkerking · Jan 1, 2020

Photosynthesis Plus - O

Enhances photosynthesis and biological function by allowing plants to capture and utilize radiant energy more efficiently.

oregonsconstantgardener.com

Hydro friendly: This strain absorbs a spectrum of the light that the plant doesn't And trades energy that way. It's really hard to produce/grow. Great if your running small lights. Think you get a blend of baterica. Anywho. #enoughnerdtalk.

Aqua Man · Jan 1, 2020

bunkerking said:
Photosynthesis Plus - O

Enhances photosynthesis and biological function by allowing plants to capture and utilize radiant energy more efficiently.

oregonsconstantgardener.com

Hydro friendly: This strain absorbs a spectrum of the light that the plant doesn't And trades energy that way. It's really hard to produce/grow. Great if your running small lights. Think you get a blend of baterica. Anywho. #enoughnerdtalk.

Well kinda they don't transfer light energy per se. That's just how they get the energy to do the same as other bacteria. Convert unavailable nutrients into available elements for the plants. Like nitrogen fixing bacteria can actually pull nitrogen from the air and provide it as a food source to plants etc. No doubt they can be beneficial but there is some clever marketing going on here. They do generally form a symbiotic relationship with the plants like other bacteria.

Indiva710 · Jan 1, 2020

SPARECHANGE said:
never priced, quantity vinegar, as a gear cleanser. ur brave, with the pool product. i have some scale remover and muriatic that's prolly turned mustard gas, by now... but i can't believe i never had an aha moment, over vinegar. I'm siding more with- I'm an idiot vs "GENIUS IDEA!". great call indiva. i see 710 and i think: LA... COWSCHWITZ...

They make concentrated vinegar in liquid if citric acid doesn't work for you or something..And like for my cloner I been using it in which uses about 5gal and I use 2ml of vinegar only so unless you have a lot of water store bought white vinegar is 5% and 44%gal is $20 if not ..

I've heard em-1 and grokashi are great wonderful products too..In which are for soil and Coco when I use those mediums I'll try em out sometime...

And the original tribus is what I was referring to it is the all time favorite and I didn't mean it has 10x great white does not sure what great white has I read it at one point when I tried it out a few years ago...But tribus has 10 billion microbes per ml or however they measure the microbes and what not in it vs other companies that has like 100 million now don't get me wrong 100 mill is a lot but pretty sure 10 billion is quite a bit more lol...But at this point in time im full hydro and don't use any of it .....As I think it's a total waste for a hydro setup everything has a time and a place and Bennie's and hydro is not one of them well IMO...Anyways

bunkerking · Jan 1, 2020

@Aqua Man - your my hero . ☺ saving me from bs.

Aqua Man · Jan 1, 2020

bunkerking said:
Photosynthesis Plus - O

Enhances photosynthesis and biological function by allowing plants to capture and utilize radiant energy more efficiently.

oregonsconstantgardener.com

Hydro friendly: This strain absorbs a spectrum of the light that the plant doesn't And trades energy that way. It's really hard to produce/grow. Great if your running small lights. Think you get a blend of baterica. Anywho. #enoughnerdtalk.

Cynobacteria are one type of bacteria that requires light. Ever seen an aquarium look like pea soup? People often think it's algae but it's really a bacteria that uses light and oxygen to photosynthesize which gives them a green color and ergo make the water green due to the population of bacteria

Aqua Man · Jan 2, 2020

Well I'm not going to be able to get to this until Saturday. More trimming from the other grow is having to come first.

Here is a shits and giggles pic for how out of control this has become. Saturday will be a slaughter. What a sad state of affairs.

Aqua Man's first grow diary

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