MIMedGrower
- 17,190
- 438
You do love a puzzle MIM. lol
I'm curious to know the science as well. But at the same time, I'm extremely confident that increasing P before flower and the first couple weeks of stretch caused the plants to initiate flowering much faster than usual. I'm on DrGreens side on this one just based on my observations of how my well established strains reacted to it.
@MIMedGrower I know you have experimented with bloom nutes in the past but have you ever tried preloading K before flower and then going back to the grow ratio after stretch? or were your bloom nute experiments only using P during flower or just after stretch? Because that's what I have seen recommended a lot in forums is increasing P only after the stretch, and at that point it's kinda too late and can even be detrimental.
Sort of. Originally when i started to grow more successfully i just gave the bottle i felt they needed. So in stretch i might see the need for p or k more than nitrogen so i would give that. Same if i was low on pk at peak bloom. But always went back to the grow bottle cause there would be yellowing if i stayed with bloom.
However (and of course this is all in ocean forest) when i decided to try only the grow bottle regardless of what i saw it worked even better and faster. And thats when i started noticing the plants staying healthy and green longer and bloom times got a bit longer but with higher and higher yields as i learned to taper down strength properly. And to my surprise there were no negatives to the product when continuing grow nutes.
So i never bought another bloom bottle.
And here we are. :-)
I totally agree that N needs to stay up through flower, I dont dispute that one bit. And I acknowledge that all the plant really needs is balanced grow ratio start to finish. But none of that takes away from the fact that an increase in P can be used as a trigger to make bloom get going faster, and like Dr.Green pointed out the entourage effect of using P along with a photoperiod lag and temperature drop hardening has a greater effect than any of those tricks on their own. And the effect is even more pronounced when you grow in a fast growing system like Hydro compared to promix.
I will share my footnotes with ya lolIs there going to be a quiz on all this stuff at weed camp ? , because I'm pretty fried and I just want to splash around and eat , if there is going to be academic stuff , I'm gonna start studying now .........
Ok your in charge of notes. We will need a recap in about 6-12 months timeI will share my footnotes with ya lol
Doh!!!! I missed the temp drop... I even thought about it.Most cannabinoids and terpenes are created in the last 2/3 of flower. We agree on how to feed cannabis during that period. The P spike, darkness period and temperature tweak are geared toward getting flower started faster, shortening internode spacing and just overall increasing the vigor during stretch. I definitely did not see any negatives, and saw a noticable improvement in flower onset.
I've seen people use this technique under 1000DE have flowers forming in literally 4-5 days.
Honestly try it sometime. Starting 5 days before flower till 2 weeks flower use 30% dyna grow bloom and 70% foliage pro, then go back to foliage pro. When you flip give them a full 24-36hrs dark and drop temps into the low 60's for a few days. You can do a few days temp drop at the end of stretch too to harden them.
Try that sometime and tell me it doesnt work.
Is there going to be a quiz on all this stuff at weed camp ? , because I'm pretty fried and I just want to splash around and eat , if there is going to be academic stuff , I'm gonna start studying now .........
Always somethin...Doh!!!! I missed the temp drop... I even thought about it.
Most cannabinoids and terpenes are created in the last 2/3 of flower. We agree on how to feed cannabis during that period. The P spike, darkness period and temperature tweak are geared toward getting flower started faster, shortening internode spacing and just overall increasing the vigor during stretch. I definitely did not see any negatives, and saw a noticable improvement in flower onset.
I've seen people use this technique under 1000DE have flowers forming in literally 4-5 days.
Honestly try it sometime. Starting 5 days before flower till 2 weeks flower use 30% dyna grow bloom and 70% foliage pro, then go back to foliage pro. When you flip give them a full 24-36hrs dark and drop temps into the low 60's for a few days. You can do a few days temp drop at the end of stretch too to harden them.
Try that sometime and tell me it doesnt work.
Im not in charge of nothin,sorry lol.Ok your in charge of notes. We will need a recap in about 6-12 months time
Ok. But after i do a run and get a harvest. Im going to stick with what has worked for me to get back going. Maybe even with ocean forest and pbpg and blue lemon thai seeds.
And botaniguard. Lol
Fair deal. BUT... It might not be quite as pronounced an effect in turtle speed promix... You really need to turn things up to rabbit to see what does what with your own eyes.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?