away team report to "BAY 11"

[NW_GDP_REP]

yeah forgive him man, he's from riu and the seed collectors crew, i guess he feels whatever they discuss is gospel and dictates who's in and who's out.
but i've seen plenty of threads in post in regards to this issue and it seems like B and H&L isn't too happy how this whole thing unfolded.

until this was brought into light almost all that wasn't in the know was misled, so all the drama and dissonant display of behavior shouldn't come to any surprise to you or others surrounding you from the Ken crew. on top of that i think being a rep for a new company you would display more of a business like manner rather than speaking with all these emotions, because far as anyone knows the customers were duped not you guys. funny thing is that you'll are more upset about people complaining more so than the people that was duped into spending their money on genetics that wasn't or isn't what they paid for and that's what you're seem to be missing.

hope all gets sorted out and good luck and success to those who brought packs, esp at 100+ for genetics that are unknown.

I see your point, excuse my emotions... I have had one hell of a battle to get where I am. I have taken on a lot, and had to go back and fix quite a lot as well.
BAY11 was not released until recently. As soon as it was released, the story unfolded. I never knew the whole story until recently. I spoke with BODHI, and H&L, and felt we left off at a good spot. I think VERY FEW people were duped...
Honestly, the only part that was left out was the Tres Dawg part on the packaging. That and not giving Bodhi the credit due for use of his strain. If anything, I would be more happy to have bought these seeds, and finding out Bodhi's work was in them. Is that a bad thing? It makes the strain even better IMO. $100+ for unknown genetics? What are you referring too?

 

[Wbwidow]

no next time excuse yourself and stop the gossiping and what you've heard girlfriend.

Next time speak for yourself no need to speak for me.. I posted what bodhi posted not what I heard.. I made a mistake saying that app is not in the bay11 but the rest is from bodhi not gossip

 

[NW_GDP_REP]

You are right I was not part of that convo but I do know bodhi said that was his cut Of h&l Appalachia that won the cup and was renamed bay 11.
Yeah I might be ou of line saying that the bay 11 seeds now don't have Appalachia in it as that was just a rumor when I looked back. Sorry about that one.
But my thing is that it's not the strain the won the cup that people think they are growing its a cross of it. Could and should be good..

Alright, well seeing how Bodhi doesn't work with us, neither do you, I'm curious how he, or anyone would know EXACTLY which strain/cut/pheno was entered anyway? TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE...
BAY11 was, is, and always will be App x OG. Simple as that. Including the version entered in the HT medical CC

 

[catdaddy]

nah there's no problem, but you do have people that buy packs strictly based on genetics. personally i think you're taking too much of the weight and are catching the brunt of it all. i think it's pretty stand up of you to take all that's been said for it not to be your company and need to get a pay raise for it.
honestly if the prices wasn't as high i think some would be more understanding and forgiving but for a $100+ expect to see some angry customers and deal with it accordingly when they felt they've been misled.

 

[NW_GDP_REP]

share the link... guaranteed it's from before we talked. I would love to post a pic of my PM's from him. Nothing to hide here people. We are not interested in falsifying info to win cups, or holding out valuable info for no apparent reason.

 

[NW_GDP_REP]

nah there's no problem, but you do have people that buy packs strictly based on genetics. personally i think you're taking too much of the weight and are catching the brunt of it all. i think it's pretty stand up of you to take all that's been said for it not to be your company and need to get a pay raise for it.
honestly if the prices wasn't as high i think some would be more understanding and forgiving but for a $100+ expect to see some angry customers and deal with it accordingly when they felt they've been misled.

Where are you seeing $100+ at? That seriously needs to change. I would love for all our gear to be $80, I feel that is fair.

 

[catdaddy]

Next time speak for yourself no need to speak for me.. I posted what bodhi posted not what I heard.. I made a mistake saying that app is not in the bay11 but the rest is from bodhi not gossip

well it seems you like to speak for others, rehearsing what have already been stated, so learn to speak for yourself so others won't have to correct you before entering a conversation wasting bandwidth space on shit that's been previously stated.

Where are you seeing $100+ at? That seriously needs to change. I would love for all our gear to be $80, I feel that is fair.

tude, zon and seeddepot.

 

[DrBudACola]

If Bay11 turns out to be good medicine, that is all I care about. I have patients who WERE on strong prescription drugs and need good strong meds to keep the edge off, stay moving. If Ken can deliver those kinds of meds then I am all for his efforts. I understand the folks dissapointment however but NW_GDP deserves props for trying and staying with it. What would be nice to see is; Kens seeds overcome all the growing pains and deliver some great genetics with consistent open information would be a start.
Keep it +

 

[dubble bubble]

If Bay11 turns out to be good medicine, that is all I care about. I have patients who WERE on strong prescription drugs and need good strong meds to keep the edge off, stay moving. If Ken can deliver those kinds of meds then I am all for his efforts. I understand the folks dissapointment however but NW_GDP deserves props for trying and staying with it. What would be nice to see is; Kens seeds overcome all the growing pains and deliver some great genetics with consistent open information would be a start.
Keep it +

just felt like making everyone read this again

 

[Goldenrod]

yall done now? hahaha dont fret folks yall need to have discussions like this once in awhile. my threads certainly are no stanger to shit storms of discussions gone awry. so ill post some pics tonight of the bay 11. theyre coming along nicely. youll be pleased gdp rep. oh & let mwe know when yall get some of the new stuff ready. still think granddaddies dream sounds like a mouthful of purp blue goodness. see yall in a minute.

 

[Wbwidow]

Yeah I'm done apologies for the back n forth bickering .. I look forward to seeing how the girls are.

 

[Goldenrod]

youre always welcome to bicker in my threads friend. oh hey dont ya just love CCs new online store. skunk va og oh my in seed form. mmmmmm be well friend

 

[Wbwidow]

Yeah loving it can't wait to get some of those new gens in the ground;)

 

[soserthc1]

If people would just treat people respectfully we would have all this bickering , If you have a beef or a point , just state it in a professional manner and your more likely to get to the bottom of it. Without all the bickering .... We are all in this together to grow and smoke some good herb and name calling on the internet is for girls (I am not calling anyone on here a girl) I'm just stating that the bullshit never gets anywhere. thou it is entertaining to a point. But the gdp rep has a job to do and at stake and has answered every question he has been answered. The rest of us are here to learn and grow and have a friendly community. We do kinda pride are self here at the farm for not having all the bull shits the other sites do.... who would of though a strain called GIRL SCOUT COOKIES would be so controversial ....... and its the I heard this I heard that stuff that cause's the turmoil , if you bought something mislabel - there are very few seed companies that wont make it right ten fold if you were not the one mislead , its better to keep quite .....just my 2 cent .... Now GROD blow this thread up and do them beans some justice...... soser out.....

 

[ESER.ONE]

Lmao I'm a troll OK sir...

 

[NW_GDP_REP]

Lmao I'm a troll OK sir...

No, excuse me for that. You have every right to make a joke, or say something. I honestly would do the same thing.

NOW, I feel like an idiot. Between all the back n forths with Ken, and Bodhi, and whatever, I either got mixed up, or was told something incorrect. Either way, here I am to say SORRY to widow for the comments to him. He's right. I guess Appalachia was the strain entered in the cup as Bay 11. Why the name change? I don't know. The seeds ARE Appalachia x OG.

Looks like IM causing the confusion now. I am sorry for that. Especially widow for cutting you down in any way. Turns out you were pretty much right.

 

[EVOKE]

whats up bro so whats the new line up for 2013 im really curious...

 

[DrBudACola]

Hey Grod, really looking forward to those pics. I am a bit behind U. I hope you do not mind if I add a pic or two of mine? I will be shoping for a new camera caus the ones I have are crap for this kind of stuff.

 

[Prime C]

Lets see some Bay11 !!!!

 

[slausongardens]

damn gdp_rep.. u chose a very very mixed up team to be a part of. nice to see you at least trying to straighten it all out cuz everything about kens seed company is confusing and misleading.

i started fuckin with ken a few years back when i got into genetics heavy, i wanted to run a purple strain and started getting clones from his store he had in LA a couple years back.. they had seeds then and i wish i bought em all but i wasnt as in to seeds then as i am now.. all the gdp clones i got from there were fire.. i loved em and kept that kens cut for a long time before tossing it.

one thing for sure is ken produces some very nice stuff. his strains have all been dank from what ive seen... bay 11, kens kush, gdp... also right after bay 11 won the cup i got a sample from ken himself. i wonder if that was the appy or the new appy x og??? it was bomb nonetheless.

but another thing is ken seems prone to lying, being vague and changing his story over and over. i remember when the kens kush said it was gdp/skywalker/bay 11 or whatever and now all of a sudden its ogxgdpxsour d?????? how u gonna just change the genetic makeup of a strain u put out??? who really knows what it is.. then he claims to have made the original gdp and says he has a male and all that??? i dunno man.. maybe but i dunno.. then this whole bay 11 drama.. i dont remember specifics but i swear for each strain ive seen at least 2 or 3 different genetic makeups... i remember one saying it had a strain called bhudda bless in it which was a strain i got from kens shop that was ridiculous then i went to buy it and it said it was a different genetic makup?? i thought it was the kush but could be something else. i know they used to have more strains..

and they did say ken was the one who originally made gsc at kush expo. they told me too. and i got the bay 11 seeds but i dont care what it is, i know its bomb and wanna see how they come out, i woulda got the kens kush ones too but i was still under the impression it was that skywalker one. and he it wasnt even supposed to be the skywalker og but the skywalker thats buleberry x mazar and i dont want that onebut ogxgdpxsourd sounds awesome and i have seen nugs that were bomb as fuck.

so to make a long story short.. kens got some dope genetics he just bullshits so much about the lineage its hard to respect him. people like us wanna know exactly what were growing especially if we wanna breed with it...

hopefully yall can get all that non sense in order and start being honest about the genetics. he'd be better off just saying the genetics are a secret then changing the lineage every couple months to whatevers popular at the time.

and can you get any info on that strain i mentioned called buhddas bless?? ive been wanting to know what it was since i tried it years ago.

and thanks grod for making a bay11 thread. i got some seedlings but cant wait to see u post some flower pics.