Bag Seed Hunting & The Lst Adventure

[incogneato]

With a %28.28 oil extraction return. Top shelf is a title that fits imo :cool:

I just felt bad murdering them.
They were so good looking :crying2:

I bet it smelled amazing while you were doing it tho :badboy: You do a big as a dab of it yet?

 

[rmoltis]

I bet it smelled amazing while you were doing it tho :badboy: You do a big as a dab of it yet?

Heating up the torch right now!

Time to,

Grab-a-dab-o-goo!!

 

[rmoltis]

This oil is very smooth.
I took that fat dab and was able to hold it in as long as I wanted.

The smoke on the exhale was very flavorful, yet not quite as tasty as the dry flower. I'm sure I lose some terps during the purging process. So I'm doing research on vacation chamber kits. That way next time I can do the final purge at a lower temp under vacuum. My lungs felt very clean and clear after exhalation.

I'm not feeling much of a brain effect.
But my body feels very relaxed and pain free. Very clear headed.

But lemme try some when I wake up tomorrow. That way I'll have a clearer idea of the type of high that it brings.

 

[justiceman]

Damn that was a fat yield. You just keep on dialing in that process. Remind me again was that ISO or Everclear? I'm liking that amber hue it has in the light. It's gotta be strong! With that kind of yield I have to agree those flowers were definitely worthy of the title top shelf.

 

[rmoltis]

Damn that was a fat yield. You just keep on dialing in that process. Remind me again was that ISO or Everclear? I'm liking that amber hue it has in the light. It's gotta be strong! With that kind of yield I have to agree those flowers were definitely worthy of the title top shelf.

Thanks chief :)

I used the %99 iso.

 

[Coronel]

Bro great journal, love the detail and how you seem to share with us your thoughts on what the plan is... (Also love the spontaneous life journal from time to time, it helps remind that even thou we come here for weed porn there are also humans around hehehe)

Hope you don't mind me posting and posting here, it is just that your detailed narrative brings very interesting points that I want to test or have tested and want to share what little I can with you.

By doing so it helps me organize my ideas and review things I wanted to do and forgot or have done and forgotten the detailed results.

It is like pH pens thing; no manufacturer has a clear procedure on how to store the different types of probes and what happens is that they degrade so we need to buy new ones.

OH hell I am only in page 31 of your journal, 70 some more to go... I'll stop my comments here today.

Great work!

Why did my girls transition so quickly?

This growth you appreciate overnight is not real growth actually the plant realized that the length of the dark period increased and decided to point up straightening as much as they could to reach for the sun, like when you say your seedlings are "Praying “hard.

Your conclusions are spot on how the plant reacts to the environmental changes

I made sure to leave the lowest Leaf's that weren't blocking anything. That way there was still plenty of photosynthesis going on.

I also left the top 2 nodes of fan Leaf's at canopy level to absorb the peak light produced up top.

That is interesting and can even be a very good technique.

The plant needs adult leaves as those manufacture much more sugar than what they consume, thus those are the ones that allow for new growth and for stem growth.

New growth is consuming a lot of nutrients and even thou they already have chlorophyll they consume more than what they produce.

So leaving the adult leaves on the top part allows for some strong solar panels feeding the plants for bud growth.

Removing leaves stress the plant and she puts more energy on flowering sites because she feels she's being attacked and want to put all energy in flowering to be seeded (which you will not allow :D )

So sounds logic that she tries to develop the bud sites to generate more sugar leaves to help on photosynthesis.

And leaving the lower leaves is also great as the plant sacrifices the oldest grow when she needs to move nutrients that are not coming in enough numbers from the roots for its growth needs, and also they are helping in photosynthesis while the plant has not need to sacrifice them...

You can call it the French puddle lollippoping lol... But it sounds great from the plant point of view.

7th week 10.5/13.5

8th week 10.25/13.75
9th week+ 10/14

Anything 9th week & past will stay 10/14 until done.
This ought to help improve rated lamp life.

Bro, the manufacturer is just scaremongering people into keeping from using the lamps as strobes :D

Any light bulb suffers from the start peak from one way or the other and it reduces the bulb life.

However the manufacturer is recommending to have on/off cycles spaced of at least 10 hours.

For example the GLR requires additional On/Off cycles and those are spaced less than 10 hours, this would potentially (remember this is average failure occurrence and they can fail before or last forever longer)

But your light transition from Veg to Flower contains 1 single On/Off cycle each 24 hours, and the lowest photoperiod you go is 10 /14 so you are within the manufacturer specs.

You don’t really need to add all those 15 minutes stages in order to improve the lamp life.

A positive side I can imagine from the 15 minute transitions is that it emulates closer the gradual transition of the seasons and the Plant vibes might be happier.

BTW in your first grow you spoke about using the GLR and you did not report what your thoughts on that was I would be interested in knowing your opinion on this based in your observations.

You know, in my experience, and I know there are people who would back me up on this, it happens quite often that freebie beans are some of the best stuff you'll ever pop.

Usually Seeds have an optimal storage time to remain viable, so what seed banks send as freebies are usually seeds arriving close or having passed recently that time.

Their idea is that after let’s say 6 months over the due date only 50% of the seeds sprout and therefore they risk their reputation if they sell old seeds.

But giving them away for free when they are after the due date but not much makes for a good way to make growers try something they might not tried otherwise and place an order later on... so Freebies are nothing to look down at... Be careful to read well because sometimes they send autos or non feminized so better to have read and know than to discover you where heavily topping and training an Auto flower seed that will finish very early :D

Also it makes sense not to order seeds too much in advance so we are sure that our seeds remain viable. And to use first whatever freebies we get to ensure having the higher sprouting rate.

 

[rmoltis]

Bro great journal, love the detail and how you seem to share with us your thoughts on what the plan is... (Also love the spontaneous life journal from time to time, it helps remind that even thou we come here for weed porn there are also humans around hehehe)

Hope you don't mind me posting and posting here, it is just that your detailed narrative brings very interesting points that I want to test or have tested and want to share what little I can with you.

By doing so it helps me organize my ideas and review things I wanted to do and forgot or have done and forgotten the detailed results.

It is like pH pens thing; no manufacturer has a clear procedure on how to store the different types of probes and what happens is that they degrade so we need to buy new ones.

OH hell I am only in page 31 of your journal, 70 some more to go... I'll stop my comments here today.

Great work!


This growth you appreciate overnight is not real growth actually the plant realized that the length of the dark period increased and decided to point up straightening as much as they could to reach for the sun, like when you say your seedlings are "Praying “hard.

Your conclusions are spot on how the plant reacts to the environmental changes


That is interesting and can even be a very good technique.

The plant needs adult leaves as those manufacture much more sugar than what they consume, thus those are the ones that allow for new growth and for stem growth.

New growth is consuming a lot of nutrients and even thou they already have chlorophyll they consume more than what they produce.

So leaving the adult leaves on the top part allows for some strong solar panels feeding the plants for bud growth.

Removing leaves stress the plant and she puts more energy on flowering sites because she feels she's being attacked and want to put all energy in flowering to be seeded (which you will not allow :D )

So sounds logic that she tries to develop the bud sites to generate more sugar leaves to help on photosynthesis.

And leaving the lower leaves is also great as the plant sacrifices the oldest grow when she needs to move nutrients that are not coming in enough numbers from the roots for its growth needs, and also they are helping in photosynthesis while the plant has not need to sacrifice them...

You can call it the French puddle lollippoping lol... But it sounds great from the plant point of view.


Bro, the manufacturer is just scaremongering people into keeping from using the lamps as strobes :D

Any light bulb suffers from the start peak from one way or the other and it reduces the bulb life.

However the manufacturer is recommending to have on/off cycles spaced of at least 10 hours.

For example the GLR requires additional On/Off cycles and those are spaced less than 10 hours, this would potentially (remember this is average failure occurrence and they can fail before or last forever longer)

But your light transition from Veg to Flower contains 1 single On/Off cycle each 24 hours, and the lowest photoperiod you go is 10 /14 so you are within the manufacturer specs.

You don’t really need to add all those 15 minutes stages in order to improve the lamp life.

A positive side I can imagine from the 15 minute transitions is that it emulates closer the gradual transition of the seasons and the Plant vibes might be happier.

BTW in your first grow you spoke about using the GLR and you did not report what your thoughts on that was I would be interested in knowing your opinion on this based in your observations.


Usually Seeds have an optimal storage time to remain viable, so what seed banks send as freebies are usually seeds arriving close or having passed recently that time.

Their idea is that after let’s say 6 months over the due date only 50% of the seeds sprout and therefore they risk their reputation if they sell old seeds.

But giving them away for free when they are after the due date but not much makes for a good way to make growers try something they might not tried otherwise and place an order later on... so Freebies are nothing to look down at... Be careful to read well because sometimes they send autos or non feminized so better to have read and know than to discover you where heavily topping and training an Auto flower seed that will finish very early :D

Also it makes sense not to order seeds too much in advance so we are sure that our seeds remain viable. And to use first whatever freebies we get to ensure having the higher sprouting rate.

Thanks :)

You are welcome to post no worries bro. This is a community and the more diversity in opinions & views we bring. The better off we all are.

The attempt at glr was only for 1 week b4 flower. So you could say I don't have enough info or experience to make any statements confidently.

I got a Lil scared at the bad reviews of glr grows from peeps and backed off.


It is good to know freebies must be used up first. I didn't know they were old seed stock.


Lol at the hid strobe light comment.
Im trying to visualize if an hid could strobe what it would look like

 

[Coronel]

Lol at the hid strobe light comment.
Im trying to visualize if an hid could strobe what it would look like

Thanks to you!

i'm pretty sure it will hurt the eyes for a brief time until the bulb dies :p

Can you send me links of bad reviews of the GLR ?

BTW speaking of Bulbs life to try the GLR without reducing the life of the HID lamps it suffices to leave the HID on a 13/11 cycle and have a second timer with an unexpensive but somewhat powerful LED bulb for the 1 hour break of the dark...

Not all freebies are old stock but that is what they use as a marketing tool to get rid of it, in any case if it got old was a low seller and that might be due to low yield but good quality, to low quality/taste or simply they are expensive seeds and people doesn't dare... Using them first is more like a general rule in case they sent old stock seed.

PS: your quote of the Rime of the ancient mariner was addressed to Taylor or Maiden ?

 

[rmoltis]

Can you send me links of bad reviews of the GLR ?

I better start off by saying I used the GLR technique for 1 week before flower. And I had very little time and experience in that week to draw any solid conclusions or ideas.

They looked like they grew in a little quicker for that week. But I also notice most plants stretch more when dark period is longer.



I couldn't find the threads I was looking for. It was just a few Rep people on thcfarmer here and there discussing how it never worked well for them.


On the same token there are a few threads with guys that say it works great for them.


Realistically I shouldn't let the hearsay distract me. Usually I just test out an idea and see what the results were. I guess I dropped the ball on that experiment lol. One for the future I guess.

 

[Coronel]

I was thinking while reading your journal that it helps visualize growing etc like a step by step tutorial.

Which would be a great read for a new grower so he can get an overall idea of the sequences and organization of time and activities...

I mean i usually split any grow in my head, in:
Nutrient management: the nutrients regime, the applications, concentrations, preparations etc.
Space management: Including conditions Temp, RH, air circulation, plant distribution etc.
Plant training and management: Including re potting, root pruning, defoliation, topping...
ELectrical requirements: including light cycles, power requirements, loads, enviroment temp...

But them it is easy to get lost during the execution; when i did that, should i apply it again... Why i didn't take notes...

While reading your journal it helps realizing you can time the actions and group them in a "temporal" sequence instead of as a system with sub systems...

I don't know if i explain myself.
What do you think @rmoltis

Also did you ever had a white leftover after foliar spraying with the aspirin and vinegar? I think I over concentrated the aspirin this time and that is what i am seeing, gonna try and wash the leaves.

 

[rmoltis]

I was thinking while reading your journal that it helps visualize growing etc like a step by step tutorial.

Which would be a great read for a new grower so he can get an overall idea of the sequences and organization of time and activities...

I mean i usually split any grow in my head, in:
Nutrient management: the nutrients regime, the applications, concentrations, preparations etc.
Space management: Including conditions Temp, RH, air circulation, plant distribution etc.
Plant training and management: Including re potting, root pruning, defoliation, topping...
ELectrical requirements: including light cycles, power requirements, loads, enviroment temp...

But them it is easy to get lost during the execution; when i did that, should i apply it again... Why i didn't take notes...

While reading your journal it helps realizing you can time the actions and group them in a "temporal" sequence instead of as a system with sub systems...

I don't know if i explain myself.
What do you think @rmoltis

Also did you ever had a white leftover after foliar spraying with the aspirin and vinegar? I think I over concentrated the aspirin this time and that is what i am seeing, gonna try and wash the leaves.

I get what your saying.

Over time I noticed if too much info was introduced on a new topic at once I couldn't retain it well.

But If I learned about each individual item 1 by 1. I retained more information. Which over time added up to the whole picture.


Your detailed points of explaining your grow is great.

Just kind of explain each subset as they pop up in real life.

It gives you a chance to keep your thread moving. And the viewers can use the date stamps of the posts for accurate time span/frame references.

I am not much of a foliar guy unless I need to help the plants recover from something.

I add my 325mg crushed for each gallon straight to my bubbler. Then into the soil.

My cloner with aspirin in it left white residue on leaves sometimes

Its cool to think that aspirin helps plants keep their immune systems strong.

 

[Coronel]

But If I learned about each individual item 1 by 1. I retained more information. Which over time added up to the whole picture.

Yes is easier to retain small detailed bits of information about several subjects in one session than to try to cram in your head everything that needs to be known about pH I.E.

I add my 325mg crushed for each gallon straight to my bubbler. Then into the soil.

Its cool to think that aspirin helps plants keep their immune systems strong.

Go figure, never thought of adding to the soil... I started using it for tomatoes because it is said the acetylsali... acid is produced on the roots from taking silice and something else, but it is not directly absorbed. So for Tomatoes is recommended to apply as foliar spray to prevent/fight late Blight fungus.

The principle being the roots can concentrate in keeping the plant alive as the leaves are taking the acetylsali... acid from the stomata, so basic plant functions are not compromised with creating defenses.

I am going to try on my next watering anyway i made it too concentrated apparently and is not good for foliar.

BTW the wash worked but not very good... once dry the leaves had less stains but still white deposits, specially young leaves which are hairy if seen under the microscope (Might be something to do with catching pollen ?)

 

[rmoltis]

Had the beast clone out today.
For a watering.

Looking great so far. In 2nd day of week 5 flower.

I like the little purple leaf tips

 

[rmoltis]

I'm gonna eat .29g of the SDXQ #2 oil.

I'm about to stuff it inside a totinos pizza roll after it is cooked.
It'll melt inside then I'll eat it.

I haven't eaten yet this morning (consider me on night shift) so it should soak in quick. I'll be high wondering what this chip bag is all about.

 

[jipp]

yeah japan comes up with some weird shit for marketing.

 

[rmoltis]

I'm gonna eat .29g of the SDXQ #2 oil.
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I'm about to stuff it inside a totinos pizza roll after it is cooked.
It'll melt inside then I'll eat it.

I haven't eaten yet this morning (consider me on night shift) so it should soak in quick. I'll be high wondering what this chip bag is all about.
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Here is the pizza roll with the oil melted deep inside. The oil has a spicy aftertaste.

 

[Cntrlwolf]

Here is the pizza roll with the oil melted deep inside. The oil has a spicy aftertaste.
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You're wild homie

 

[Cntrlwolf]

Hey, not trying to be shitty. Are you worried about the density of the buds? They are fattening up nice, but it makes me think. Are they in danger of rubbing up against each other. I'm getting some moisture on my plants that touch at night. It's got me started on a preventive maintenance schedule, and I haven't seen one from you that I can recall. Just curious. Love the updates, how's kitty?

 

[rmoltis]

Hey, not trying to be shitty. Are you worried about the density of the buds? They are fattening up nice, but it makes me think. Are they in danger of rubbing up against each other. I'm getting some moisture on my plants that touch at night. It's got me started on a preventive maintenance schedule, and I haven't seen one from you that I can recall. Just curious. Love the updates, how's kitty?

Not worried about the bud density.
I actually hoped more soil, veg time and training would lead to more large tops. So I'm hoping they are so close they almost touch.
Here is a shot of tent conditions right now (outdoor) compared to the home conditions (indoor).

As you can see home is 75° & %23 Rh.
Air in the tent is 81° & rh% (unregistered).

My air is nice and dry and ventilation through the (24cu ft total space) tent is great.

The 6" inline 400cfm canfan draws from the lowest chamber.
Up through the top chamber around each side of the tents square shape.

This allows a gentle flow of air rising from below the plant upwards through the dense bush.
Because the Bush occupies all free space. The air must flow through it and not around it.

This round my goal was to attempt to exceed what I deemed comfortable. I wanted to overpack the tent with cola's and see how she responded.

Each grow I've had more and more tops. I wanted to establish for myself a sort of upper limit. To show me what good or bad may happen during the experience.

I've seen nothing related to moisture, or lack of ventilation, powder mold, root rot, stem rot, bud rot etc.

If anything my environment stays too dry. Always sucking away all soil and air moisture. I can dump 1 gallon in the beast drip tray and after a couple hours it's gone. Soil soaks it up. Goes to the leaves of the plant which then transpire it all out.

It's crazy

 

[rmoltis]

Kitty is doing OK but is on a slow decline.

We tentatively set an app that to be put down on Monday. If she lasts longer we can cancel. And if she needs it sooner there's a vet er that can do it 24hrs a day.

When we first found out I asked the universe if we could have another week with her. We got almost a month so far but she is starting to fade. The closer it gets the realer it becomes.

I'm gonna be very sad when the moment comes and she looks at us with her big eyes asking to be let go.

Hopefully we help deliver her to a better place. And help her life end peacefully before she experiences any serious suffering.


I'm just not sure if I'm qualified enough as a human to pass judgement on when the life of a being must come to an end. It's very hard. I'm gonna miss her so much when she's gone. Probably go back to work and bury myself in work for a few weeks. Just ignore everything else for a while.