Bat guano directly from a cave?

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Hi, my friend has decided to make his own super soil recepie.


He has acquired all the stuff he needs, and the last component was the bat guano. He has friend who are keen on cave-tourism and ofter visti various caves. So they took some bat poop and delivered it to my friend.
His questions are
-does the bat guano need some time to "sit" (since its organic?) in order to become effective / not too strong

-how long must he wait in order for the guano to be safe to use? Or can he apply it directly in the super soil mix? Or perhaps make compost tea?
Can you direct me to instructions on what to do with bat p00p directly from the cave, and not from a store.
 
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Please don't harvest the bat guano directly from a cave. For one thing, it's dangerous to breath and could be bad for your health. Additionally, you will be damaging the ecology and habitat in the cave.

There are many more sustainable options than bat guano for your grow.....
 
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StrongPimpin

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Seems like the guano youd buy from the store would have been treated so you cant get a disease from those nasty things
 
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Humans can get the disease Histoplasmosiss by inhaling the spores of a fungus which lives in bat guano.

Histoplasmosis
Ohio River Valley fever
Last reviewed: September 28, 2008.
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Histoplasmosis is an infection due to the Histoplasma capsulatum fungus.
Causes, incidence, and risk factors

Histoplasmosis is a fungal infection. It occurs throughout the world. In the United States, it is most common in the southeastern, mid-Atlantic, and central states.

The infection enters the body through the lungs. Histoplasma fungus grows as a mold in the soil, and infection results from breathing in airborne particles. Soil contaminated with bird or bat droppings may have a higher concentration of histoplasma.

There may be a short period of active infection, or it can become chronic and spread throughout the body.

Histoplasmosis may have no symptoms. Most people who do develop symptoms will have a flu-like syndrome and lung (pulmonary) complaints related to pneumonia or other lung involvement. Those with chronic lung disease (such as emphysema and bronchiectasis) are at higher risk of a more severe infection.

About 10% of people with histoplasmosis will develop inflammation (irritation and swelling) in response to the initial infection. This can affect the skin, bones or joints, or the lining of the heart (pericardium). These symptoms are not due to fungal infection of those body parts, but to the inflammation.

In a small number of patients, histoplasmosis may become widespread (disseminated), and involve the blood, meninges (outer covering of the brain), adrenal glands, and other organs. Very young or very old people, or those who have a weakened immune system (due to AIDS, cancer, or transplant, for example) are at higher risk for disseminated histoplasmosis.
Symptoms


Symptoms depend on the type of infection:

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Acute asymptomatic pulmonary (lung) histoplasmosis -- no symptoms
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Acute symptomatic pulmonary histoplasmosis:
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Fever
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Chills
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Cough
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Chest pain when breathing in
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Chronic pulmonary histoplasmosis:
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Chest pain
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Cough, possibly coughing up blood
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Fever
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Shortness of breath
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Sweating
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Disseminated histoplasmosis:
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Fevers
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Headache
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Neck stiffness
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Mouth sores
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Skin lesions
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Other histoplasma symptoms:
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Joint pain
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Rashes
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Skin nodules (red lumps called erythema nodosum), most often on the lower legs

Signs and tests

How histoplasmosis is diagnosed depends on the body parts involved. Tests that may be done include:

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Skin biopsy
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Blood, urine, or sputum tests to look for signs of histoplasmosis infection
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Chest CT scan
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Chest x-ray
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Spinal tap to look for signs of infection in cerbrospinal fluid (CSF)

Treatment

The main treatment for histoplasmosis is antifungal drugs. Amphotericin B, itraconazole, and ketoconazole are the usual treatments.

Antifungals may be given through a vein, depending on the form or stage of disease.

In some cases, long-term treatment with antifungal drugs may be needed.
Expectations (prognosis)

What happens depends on the extent of the infection and the overall health of the individual. The death rate is fairly high for people with untreated widespread (disseminated) histoplasmosis, but is reduced significantly with treatment.
Complications

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Fibrosing mediastinitis -- scarring in the chest that may entrap the following body parts:
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The major blood vessels carrying blood to and from the heart
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Esophagus (food pipe)
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Heart
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Lymph nodes
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Inflammatory syndromes involving:
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Heart lining (pericarditis)
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Joints (arthritis)
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Rashes (erythema nodosum, erythema multiforme)
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Skin nodules
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Mediastinal granuloma -- enlarged chest-cavity lymph nodes, which may compress body parts such as the esophagus and blood vessels of the lungs
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Medication side effects (for example, amphotericin can have severe side effects)

In addition, people who have a weakened immune system may develop disseminated disease, which can infect the meninges of the brain (causing meningitis).
Calling your health care provider

Notify your health care provider if you live in an area where histoplasmosis is common, and you develop flu-like symptoms, chest pain, cough and shortness of breath. While there are many other illnesses that have similar symptoms, you may need to be tested for the possibility of histoplasmosis.
Prevention

Histoplasmosis may be prevented by reducing exposure to dust in chicken coops, bat caves, and other high-risk locations. Wear masks and other protective equipment if you work in these environments.

Review Date: 9/28/2008.

Reviewed by: David C. Dugdale, III, MD, Professor of Medicine, Division of General Medicine, Department of Medicine, University of Washington School of Medicine; Jatin M. Vyas, MD, PhD, Instructor in Medicine, Harvard Medical School, Assistant in Medicine, Division of Infectious Disease, Massachusetts General Hospital. Also reviewed by David Zieve, MD, MHA, Medical Director, A.D.A.M., Inc.
 
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Yeah its true... Most people who do develop symptoms will have a flu-like syndrome and lung (pulmonary) complaints related to pneumonia or other lung involvement. Those with chronic lung disease (such as emphysema and bronchiectasis) are at higher risk of a more severe infection.
 
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