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It doesnt have to be shatter exactly, pull n snap is fine too. I guess the pull n snap has more monoterps right?Good fresh material starts out as a carboxylic acid, which is brittle at room temperature.
It can be softened by the presence of residual solvent, high levels of monoterpenes acting as a solvent, and by decarboxylation.
A good -29.5" Hg vacuum purge, below 120F reliably produces an aromatic shatter for us.
A stellar question, is whether shatter consistency is more important to you than aroma and flavor. Once the solvent is gone, the monoterpenes at elevated levels still keep extractions soft.
We like a happy medium, where the monoterpenes are reduced to the point that the extract is aromatic and tasty, without being harsh on the lungs.
I want to make shatter out of oil I made with ethanol as a solventG'Day,
I know this is an outdated post but I have read through all the responses and nobody has provided an actual answer to your problem. I'm going to briefly explain the solution to your problem so other people who read this who may have a similar issue can correctly fix their problem.
If your BHO was not correctly purged, you will need to do the entire extraction process from the beginning. If you fail to do this, you risk seriously damaging your lungs from smoking a contaminated product.
To get your product to be more like shatter and less like goo, you need to remove as much impurities as possible and you need to allow the evaporating process to be done as slow as possible while maintaining a constant LOW HEAT. This is the key to making the product glass like and clear.
This method, you will use isopropyl 99%
1. Freeze your tainted contaminated BHO and your 99% for a day or two
2. Place desired amount of BHO into a jar and cover with 99%
3. Allow the BHO to COMPLETELY dissolve into the 99%
4. Place the 99% dissolved BHO into the freezer for a day or two
5. Take out of freezer and strain with a filter of your choice
6. Pour the strained 99% into a dish
7. Allow the 99% to evaperate under LOW HEAT for several hours
8. Scrape product onto non stick paper of your choice
9. Place in freezer for a few mins
10. You can repeat steps 4 and 5 several times for a higher quality product
Cha-Ching. You now have a safe contaminant free correctly purged concentrate which should shatter if flicked. Keep in mind, to correctly make the consistency of shatter the purging process MUST be done with a low consistent heat throughout the entire purging process. If the temp fluctuates you will no longer get shatter, you will get goo, sap oil bla bla bla
I hope this helps.
That’s called science what you did three criteria need to be met 1)testableI'll share my experience. Might be long winded, bare with me.
There seems to be a lot of varying opinions on this - most of the oil-heads say it's all strain dependant, and/or growing method/environment (hardness/softness of end product).
In my area people have this misconception that the highest quality shatter should shatter like glass - and refer to this glass-like shatter as being "stable". So I constantly am dealing with complaints or praise on the hardness of my shatter... or... "stability"... :rolleyes:
Anywho...
When I first started blasting a few years ago... every single batch would come out like a rock. But I felt my oil didn't have as much flavor as it should - and started digging into more research to refine my process as more and more folks picked up the hobby. At the time, I was using much higher temps, primarily during initial blasting/boil off due to some misinformation... like 120-140... though my equipment at the time wasn't able to keep very consistent temps, but around there. Too high nonetheless. Under vacuum I was keeping consistently low, 95-115f at the highest.
So time went on and more info was available... and I realized I was probably losing flavor due to those high boil-off temps... So the next time I harvested and had a bunch of material to play with and better equip for consistent temps, I kept my blasting temps low - 95-100.
Now my oil was coming out softer... like taffy, but still able to "break" to some degree. But the flavor and aroma was fucking phenomenal.
I assumed the softer finished shatter was simply strain or environment dependant (even though methods/environment hadn't really changed lol)... and kept doing my thing. Some batches would turn out a bit harder than others, but for the most part NOTHING like how rock hard my oil was when I first started.
Fast forward to now, many harvests and strains passed... not much has changed... I still use the same low temps (though with more attention on low temps), same long, thin-film purge. My oil will usually be fairly rigid, sometimes more pliable than other batches... sometimes soft and a PITA to handle... but NOTHING like that rock hard shatter years ago it seems.
And coincidentally - I just had a buddy sort of complaining that a batch that finished yesterday was semi-sticky/taffy like, and not as "STABLE"... so it got me curious...
Last night I took a couple zips for a test run - same exact material from the soft/taffy-like batch I just spoke of... only 4 days since blasting the first batch. Decided I would jack up my temps just for shits on the intial blast/boil-off, and get my Pyrex to 130f...
As we speak, I have a half oz of near-rock hard oil under purging under vacuum.
Nothing was different aside from the higher initial temps. Same material/strain, same butane, same vacuum purge temps, etc etc.
Though I do feel strain/growing method/environment/age and storage of material does play a role in the rigidity or softness of the end product... I can't help but come to the conclusion that abnormally high intial blasting/boil off temps will give you that ROCK hard shatter - though at the expense of less overall terpene %.
Don't get me wrong, usually my shatter will "break" at normal room temps and be fine to handle when running my normal low temp process... However, the difference between these two runs of the same exact material tells me that heat during the initial process can play a significant role in the rigidity of the final product, if you so wish.
Call it anecdotal, but that's my experience. I might fuck around a bit more with some smaller runs, just to prove a point to some of my local oil-bros that want that "muhfuckin rock hard 'STABLE' shatter bruh..."
So many god damn differing opinions on some of these things eh? Lol...
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