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you need tricoderma in a live res DWC to eat up dead root mass that has been broken down by enzymes.
Roots oregonism is about the same as great white and a HELL of a lot cheaper. Oregonism works great, I can attest to that. I've run both great white and oregonism and I prefer the oregonism for DWC. I've had good success with it in dirt as well, worked better than EN/EA for sure. Dope it up with some molasses.
companion microbial looks pretty good too but i've never tried it.
oregonism, great white, and humboldt myco madness all have tricoderma.
Hey guys here's a quote for you from "Teaming With Microbes." Again, not my words, but those of the authors' of a book all about benes.
"applications of synthetic fertilizers kill off most or all of the soil food web microbes. These fertilizers are salts, and when they come into contact with soil microbes, they cause osmotic shock-that is, water in the cells of these organisms flows to the higher concentration of salts without, literally bursting through cell walls and killing off the microbes that hold (bacteria and fungi) and cycle (nematodes and protozoa) nutrients."
Am I crazy or did that just say chemical salt based nutes kill benes? These organisms are the dominant species of life on this planet and we rarely, if ever, even see them and certainly not with the naked eye as someone claimed earlier. These creatures evolved over millions of years in the soil of our planet in symbiosis with plants and now you want to take and drop them in a salt bath and pump them to a sterile media and expect them to survive? Really? Who sounds crazy now? Peace.
Especially important are the mycorrhizal fungi which extend their thread-like hyphae from inside cortex cells out into the soil for several millimeters. They extend the feeding volume of the root by 10 to 1,000 times or more for most plant species (the cabbage family being a notable exception), and extract and carry nutrients back to the root. So important are they that scientists sometimes call the root zone the mycorrhizosphere. Pine trees will hardly grow without these fungi. There are two types- ectomycorrhiza and endomycorrhiza. Ectomycorrhiza are found in association with forest trees such as pines, eucalyptus and dipterocarps, while endomycorrhizal associations are formed in horticultural, forest and agronomic crops
Ok, knowing what I now know about the difficulty in measuring different organic molecules, I'm curious as to how they're measuring ppm's (a conversion of EC) of organics in anything resembling an accurate manner. I don't disagree that mixing chem-salts with organics can be done, I disagree that the mix can be accurately, or even roughly, measured.There's an interesting thread on ICMag about combining syth ferts with organic bennies in hydro. They run their synth ferts to make up half of their desired PPM, then use teas to get the PPMs to the final level (which is often still slightly lower than a straight synth PPM mix would be). They post pictures of their synth/organic teas brewing away with huge heads of foam, so it seems that it's definitely not killing "All" the bennies. They openly admit they have no way to measure the actual amount of bennies present in straight organic compared to synth/organic, though. One guy even lists synth products that will absolutely kill the microherd, but his list is only about 5 items and obviously incomplete.
Have you read Teaming With Microbes? I know it's a basic primer on working with the soil food web, but they keep bringing the reader back to their basic rules, which state very clearly that annuals (of which Cannabis is one) generally prefer bacteria-dominated soils which produce N in the form of NO3, and trees, shrubs and other old-growth perennials generally prefer fungi-dominated soils that provide N in the form of NH4 (ammonium). The authors go on to state several times that veggie gardens and lawns perform better with bacteria-dominated soil food webs.I innoculated my seedling mix with Xtreme Garden Myko 30, then also put a little bit of powder in the hole when I placed the seedling in the soil, as there are some microbes in these mixes that must be in contact with the roots (so I've read). Most people seem to say that using Great White/Myko in a tea is rather wasteful for this reason. I've got some GW I'm going to use when I transplant in a couple weeks, and I'm going to use Kangaroots when I water in place of Root Excel.
I'd love to hear more info on amino acids. You say the plant produces them? Soul Synthetics sells an Amino product that they suggest using with their organic line to increase yields, but I'm not sold on the science of amino acids in our type of gardening...yet. I haven't had a chance to read enough about them yet.
Dex, lipids are fats. Proteins can be said to be comprised of amino acids.I see everyone getting excited by foam, that is usually dead organisms giving up proteins. There will always be some, but it usually follows a slightly anaerobic incident, when fungii start to break down (fungii are very high in phospholipids, which is a waxy fat, which is why fungii are water proof. Phospholipids are a protein (lipid) attached to phosphorus, and we know that's what makes soaps foamy...) So foam was something I've learned to eyeball with some suspicion. Check your aeration and see if you can't get a bit more, and keep in mind certasin ingredients (yucca extracts, saponins, nettles) can cause some foaming when they are on the brew bill. It's not the end of the world, but foam ain't always something to jump up and down about. Consider the fungii...
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