Black Russian Hybrids ?

Vic123 · Mar 2, 2009

Hey Sub, is DPD the only hybrid offspring of BR ?

Thanks !

highroller · Mar 4, 2009

I have a BR F3 that I make hybrids with from time to time Vic. A BR x Sensi Star and BR x Sputnik V 1.0. I've made polys from these as well.

RansacktheElder · Mar 4, 2009

Beautiful coloring on that one highroller!

darksideX · Mar 4, 2009

RansacktheElder said:
Beautiful coloring on that one highroller!

:handshake.. yep, lookin' yummy ma friend..!!:afroweed:

WCC · Mar 4, 2009

beautiful lady ya got there ... :yes

v0ssman · Mar 5, 2009

absolutely beautiful coloration

highroller · Mar 5, 2009

yeah... thanks guys. everything I touch with that BR male turns some shade of red, pink, purple. some are even sort of a reddish brown color. Very unusual. also imparts a very berryish and sort of that baby poo smell that I personally am not very fond of, but when mixed with another heavy smeller like sensi star, it is diminished.
these are some of the seeds I've been sending in as freebies...just so's ya know.

Vic123 · Mar 5, 2009

Those are BEAUTIFUL highroller !

Freebies as a result of what?

Nuglover · Mar 5, 2009

Yo Highroller, is that the one that was crossed with Arcata TW in the freebies a few weeks back?

Subcool · Mar 5, 2009

Vic123 said:
Hey Sub, is DPD the only hybrid offspring of BR ?

Thanks !

WE also created Sputnik and using the BR male :)

Lots of people work with the line though:icon_cookie:

Sub

highroller · Mar 6, 2009

Nuglover said:
Yo Highroller, is that the one that was crossed with Arcata TW in the freebies a few weeks back?

There was an open pollination of the Trainwreck (Arcata cut), the Sensi Star (SoQuik cut), the Soulfruit #2 (BCO's), and the Jillybean (the man himself, Subcool) by a SD IBL x PTK male and a Sput. x BR male so it could be either (or both) of the two in the freebies Vic. It was totally unplanned, because the two males sneaked past me in the flower room. At the time it was a new flower room and remote from my location. I mis-sexed them and didn't catch them in time. Shoulda just gone with cuts, but I didn't. Lessons learned.
The plant pictured is a cross of the Sensi Star x Black Russian F3, but is quite similar in appearance. I've been growing these strains for years in both seed and cut form, making crosses here and there. I usually just hold onto the seed because I only make a few at a time. I have never intended to call them my own nor sell them, but having so many from the accidental pollination, I thought I should spread the love a bit.
I'll have a look around my pics. I'll post up some of the Sputnik V 1.0 x Black Russian F3 when I find them Nuglover.
I thought it was common knowledge that Sub created the Sputnik. I guess I'll have to be more specific in the future. With regard to the Black Russian, it's not the most potent pot you'll ever smoke, but it's cool as a breeding tool as, like I said, everything you touch with it gets the nice colors IME. And sometimes, for me anyways, it's nice to have a smoke that doesn't floor you, but gives you a nice cruising type of high.

Subcool · Mar 6, 2009

Inhanced Data

The Story of Black Russian
Black Russian is one of the most amazing looking strains ever to be photographed and one of the main reasons that I am a writer, let me explain. I have been growing Cannabis and taking pictures of it for a little less than 10 years and I love documenting as many strains as I possibly can. To me a seed is like a box of cracker jacks and I can’t wait to see the surprise I get each time I grow a new strain from seed.
I had never really submitted any work to a magazine before choosing the immediate feed back of the internet and sites like Overgrow and Breedbay until one day when someone I know sent pictures of my Black Russian clone into Hightimes and it was immediately published based on looks alone.
I decided if a plant I was growing was going to be in a magazine I better do it right so I used the text from the online post and the pictures I had taken to put together an article that I submitted to Danny Danko and the next thing I know I was a contributing writer to several magazines and now I have my own book published by Ed Rosenthal.
Black Russian went on to become extremely famous and to this day breeders offer crosses made using the hybrids I created using the Solid Purple female and the dark magenta male used to create the f2 we released. I do not like Black Russian and we offer no hybrids of the parents now and no one in our circle of medical growers still grows it. But Why? I thought it would be cool to tell the behind the scenes story and shed some light on why I don’t smoke or even grow one of the most sought after crosses to surface in a long time.
Like everyone else I was blown away by the looks of the Black Russian female we found using seeds from Nebu. Jill had met him once and he had given her a few packs of his seeds and when I landed out west I had seen pictures of Nebu’s work and figured I had to give it a shot. We shared the 5 seeds with friends up north and I ended up with a few females and a few males and choose the female and male based on things I have learned to look for over the years. I actually asked Nebu if this was ok and his response was to have at it. Everyone but me was gaga over the Purple buds I thought it had a weird taste of musk and pepper that over powered the nice Grape smell and taste that lurked underneath each toke. Meanwhile everyone was Screaming give us Black Russian f2’s so I did and they were released to the growing public. About 75% of the females found from seed turned an amazing color but I caught hell from every grower that didn’t get a Purple phenotype. I thought I could improve the potency and taste possibly by crossing the strain with one of my favorite mother plants Apollo-13 and used the Black Russian male to pollinate A-13 and create the strain we called Sputnik. I grew out the new sibling cross and we found a nice ratio of Deep Pink females and ones that only exhibited solid white pistils and green coloring. The surprising thing was the buds from the non colored females was much better tasting and severely more potent than the females that grew Pink Pot.
I was at this point convinced that Purple Pot and Potency were not necessarily conducive. I stopped being so impressed with purple weed and preached Purple was just a color and not indicative of quality in any form other than looks. I passed the Mother and Father to a medical grower and ask him to keep them alive which he did not and it was about this time that everyone that was able to get a pack of my Black Russian F2’s started showing them off online and things got crazy. I had no more seeds to give out and the few distributors still holding packs were getting prices never heard of for pot seeds. The last pack sold went for 1000$ and I need to make clear none of it went into my pocket that’s taking advantage of people.

Once I moved out west I was able to sample some of the Kush’s that people like so much like OG Kush, Bubbu Kush and Chemdog and I figured out I dislike the flavor of Kush! No matter what strain or how well its grown I do not like the hot taste of Kush Indicas and I now understand why so many people loved the Black Russian, Sputnik and the hybrids that spun off of this work. It wasn’t a bad strain just one I didn’t like the taste of.
See some people love Blue Cheese Dressing and it makes others cringe the same can be said for flavors in Cannabis I just found this out to late. It did teach me that there are many many palettes and everyone has different taste. No longer do I rush so fast to judgment based on taste. Black Russian always got me really high if I actually smoked a few bowls I just rarely got past the taste of the first bowl.
Once I relocated out west I was able to find an amazing tasting Urkle female that also turns an amazing color but nothing like the Neon Purple of Black Russian. The Urkle was however much much better pot and the strain we created with it Querkle is an amazing Indica with purple traits and a Grape taste that I enjoy every day! So I don’t hate purple anymore and that’s a very good thing. In Fact a new hybrid created using Querkle, Qleaner has become one of my favorite strains of all time! It taste like Grape Nehi Soda but has the added potency of Jacks Cleaner!

So that’s it the story of a strain you may have seen and why now its more of an urban legend than seeds people can actually acquire. Several breeders do offer hybrids they created using seeds I created though and that is one hell of an honor.

First 5 pics are Black Russian
Second 5 pictures are Sputnik "aka" Pinky

Subcool · Mar 6, 2009

Querkle and Qleaner

Lets look at Querkle and see why I would choose it over BR

Querkle

This Indica dominant hybrid has a great taste and out of a 5 plant test run all 4 females turned a nice shade of purple with warm temps throughout. Our goal was to recreate the nice grape flavor but ad some speed to the slow Urkle mom and the results are better than we expected and finding 2 keeper moms from the very small test run we did. Results from the field verify mild variation, good yields and fantastic flavor and colors. This hybrid has been featured in both Skunk and Hightimes magazine.

1) Phenotypes –Two main females one Short and very purple with grape flavors, the variation is a slightly more SQ dom with a taller frame and more sativa buzz.
2) Height- Short and dence does well un topped but faster than Urkle.
3) Yield-Medium to heavy if extended veg time is given mainly due to bud density.
4) Indoor has only been tested so far
5) Best way to grow-Vegged to a large bush Or untopped in scrog.
6) Harvest Window-8 weeks
7) Sativa/Indica 20/80
8) Hybrid- Urkle x Space Queen
9) High type- Indica head and grape taste make it total all day headstash.
10) Smells: Grapes, fruit, berries, musty
11) One of my favorite things to smoke out of a clean bong the flavor is just amazing and IMO better than Mom.

To make things fair none of these pictures are NOT mine all were taken and plants grown by friends of TGA

Subcool · Mar 6, 2009

Qleaner

Qleaner

Name
Nationality Subcool Seeds/TGA..USA
Height Tall with thick stems and internodes
Weight Heavy
Age 2 years old
Race: Jacks Cleaner X Purple Urkle X Space Queen

It took me 15 years and scrapping 2 complete projects before we found this ultimate combination of taste and potency. Qleaner not only has an amazing color but a Grape taste that I can’t get enough of. The lemon taste of Jacks Cleaner combines with the grape taste to produce a candy like taste. Unlike Purple Urkle this new hybrid is covered in raised tricomes that make incredibly tasty bubble hash that will simply wipe your memory clean. The high is a mix of body stone and a slight trippy feeling. You have to really be careful not to smoke to much as the taste is so addictive but this isn’t your normal tasty weed with loads of flavor and no results, this mix of heavy weight parents brings on a serious stoning. I found myself just grooving to Tool after a few bong-rips just smiling like a Cheshire cat.
She does well in both soil and Hydro needing moderate nutrients to keep her fulfilled and maturing completely under 9weeks of budding. She will stretch double in the first three weeks of flowering so allow plenty of room.
People who have grown out this new hybrid have hoisted her to the top of their collection and one in particular; Bongorilla who took these amazing pictures has certainly found his MILF!

Pictures by Bongorilla
Words by Subcool