Just to update, and give a bit of a rant/important message regarding broad mites and treatments...
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I'm 99.9% sure that, if I did bring the BM's into my main flowering room, that I annihilated them by:
Heat treat, 120f for 60 min (make sure your ladies are watered well, of course, I gambled and damaged a few plants)
Treatment of
Forbid 4F (yeah, I went there)
Follow-up treatments of Cap's foliar packs, straight (turned off dehuey, let RH% get well over 60%)
As for the clone/mother area that harbored the infected Cherry Pie clone...
I started with a couple heat treatments, a couple days apart.
Dunked every plant in
Forbid 4f...
Then I took a trip to Vegas. I needed a break... after 4 days of partying like I was 18 again and blowing a fuckload of money, I returned to find some horrible damage done to the clones and mothers. Some of them took the
Forbid dunking well, many did not. The damage was so extreme that I tossed all of my clones for the next run, and tossed a couple mothers that weren't dear to me.
The remaining plants, I rotated
Azamax, neem,
spinosad, and one more treatment of
Forbid 4F (did not dunk, simple foliar spray) a little while later... and have been following up with Cap's foliar... and all seems to be well.
As for my buddy's compound... he ended up locating some live BM's throughout the set of clones I'd given him... I gave him an oz of
Forbid and other tools, and he seems to also be BM free as well.
What I learned:
You can never be TOO careful. I have access to all of the fancy elites that you could ever ask for... but even with quarantine and treatment that wasn't necessarily aimed at BM eradication, the little mother fuckers still made their way through. Also, the guy that gave me the infected Cherry Pie clone treats every incoming plant with
Forbid, and they still made their way through. I also learned that you can OVER-APPLY
Forbid 4F... spot treatment isn't quite as necessary as other treatments. Not sure why my clones/mothers couldn't handle the 1.25ml/gal dose of
Forbid in a dunking, but I don't think dunking is absolutely necessary.
I do ask that anybody taking in clones takes EXTREME caution, and to quarantine, quarantine, quarantine. Average preventative measures don't seem to be enough. I don't recommend using
Forbid 4F... and I really wish I didn't have to necessarily. But out of all of the research I did... I wanted to be damn sure that I got rid of the evil little microscopic bastards. So IMO, a treatment of nukes (
Forbid) and following up with other means, such as heat treatments, Cap's foliar, etc, and then another dose
Forbid if you wish.
DO NOT OVER-APPLY, OVER-TREAT WITH
FORBID. Your plants should never receive
Forbid more than 1-2 times in the entire lifespan... otherwise you will create resistant mites. A couple of hydro/indoor growing paradigm-related websites that sell
Forbid simply say "studies have shown no resistance problems with
Forbid"... however, if you read the entire label/instructions provided with the bottle of
Forbid 4F, you will see:
"...repeated use of any plant protection product may increase the development of resistant strains of pests, including insects and mites. Using
Forbid 4F in successive miticide applications during the same growing season is not recommend. Use
Forbid 4F as part of a sound resistance management program that includes rotation with other treatments with different modes of action."
So, a little common sense goes a long way. Be sure to read the entire label when using highly toxic compounds. Be safe. Wear personal protection gear. Dispose of properly as not to contaminate the environment. Understand that
Forbid 4F and other 'nukes' are designed for ORNAMENTALS and understand the risks associated with such.
Be healthy, be safe, be cautious... good vibes and happy gardening.
-Myco