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Everything looks very on point, nice work.
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Seamaiden
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BioLink 6% Ca + Epsom salt is what I like to use. Or you can do Calcium-25 (evenings only!) with another Mg product.
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This insight is much appreciated and is great food for thought, blaze. Thank You. . I've been struggling with what to do/which way to go on this since things just blew-the-fuck-up here. BIG plants (not as big as yours, but my largest) are something new here...as is the entire OD thing. I've made 2 stabs at growing OD the last 2 years and have learned mucho...but the curve is still huge. LOL. You just can't anticipate what you don't know about....
So when you are talking "clean out"...are you shaving em up.... leaving the bottom leaves and taking the shoots... or are you thinning branches and getting more aggressive? FWIW/if it makes a difference...my plants are mostly destined for the bubble bags. Not growing for sale/bag appeal/YUUUGE tops/etc.
I have 5 Purple Cheddars going in the mix here.... all of them grew like this... (and yes..I know they are all too close together. Never had plants take off like this before...LOL. Live and learn.) This is one of two..the smallest...in 25 gallons...the rest are in 65 gallon smart pots.
Any advice appreciated!
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The late spring and early summer light deps produce the best buds possible in my opinion, better than indoor or any other cultivation method. Something about flowering under that intense solstice sun really pumps up the potency, flavor and bud structure.
Though I actually find the full season outdoor to be better than greenhouse full season. The greenhouse buds always look nicer but the flavor and high is never as good to me. We should really be able to dial in the difference once the permanent greenhouse is built and we are pulling 3-4 runs a year, plus the full term plants. Some strains definitely work better during different season. Some plants do better in low light conditions and work best in the fall for example.
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Great I have been using the Biolink nitrogen, I will see if the place I get it from carries the 6% Ca too.
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I will take some interior pictures of how I prune out my plants and post them up in a day or two. That will probably be more clear than trying to explain it.
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Looking good, Scoop!
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I have so much to learn still :bookworm:and I have been reading about growing for years now
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Theres ALWAYS something more to learn!
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Been extremely busy the last week so I have not had much time to take many pictures. So sorry @scoop, no pictures on in inside of the outdoor plants to show the pruning yet.
The last of the work to get the slab for the new greenhouse was finished today and we are finally ready to pour the cement. There was a lot to lay out - electrical conduit, drains, tons of rebar, pipes for the various water and irrigation systems, and all the PEX tubing for the radiant heat. The plan is to build three 52' x 5' 8" raised beds, but for now we will just be using 15 gallon pots. The long term plan will be to have everything connected into a controller so the irrigation, lighting, cooling, radiant heat, fans, curtain system, and dehumidifiers will all be able to be monitored and fine tuned.
Most of the electrical will be run over head so it does not interfere with the light dep curtain system, but we still had to run conduit for the manifold for the radiant heat system and a few other things. Completely finishing the electrical will be a major project, but I know all I need to pull off a fall crop this year is a few fans; nature will do the rest for me. We have enough power to run all the primary systems, but we really need a dedicated 200 amp service just for this one building once lights are added. We may end up having to put in some power poles and upgrading the entire service for the whole ranch as a result.
Three irrigation zones were installed in total, in addition to four other zones for water hook ups. One will be for hose hook ups/plain water, one will be for compost tea, one will be for an overhead foliar system (which I have said for years I want to build but never seem to get to it), and one is an extra/back up system for whatever else we may need in the future. Ideally stainless steel sloped drains would have been used, like at a brewery but they were outrageously expensive, and would have required the slab to be twice as thick to account for the slope. The whole slab will have a slight "W" shape to it, so all goes away from the walls and raised beds into the two drains.
The last of the work to get the slab for the new greenhouse was finished today and we are finally ready to pour the cement. There was a lot to lay out - electrical conduit, drains, tons of rebar, pipes for the various water and irrigation systems, and all the PEX tubing for the radiant heat. The plan is to build three 52' x 5' 8" raised beds, but for now we will just be using 15 gallon pots. The long term plan will be to have everything connected into a controller so the irrigation, lighting, cooling, radiant heat, fans, curtain system, and dehumidifiers will all be able to be monitored and fine tuned.
Most of the electrical will be run over head so it does not interfere with the light dep curtain system, but we still had to run conduit for the manifold for the radiant heat system and a few other things. Completely finishing the electrical will be a major project, but I know all I need to pull off a fall crop this year is a few fans; nature will do the rest for me. We have enough power to run all the primary systems, but we really need a dedicated 200 amp service just for this one building once lights are added. We may end up having to put in some power poles and upgrading the entire service for the whole ranch as a result.
Three irrigation zones were installed in total, in addition to four other zones for water hook ups. One will be for hose hook ups/plain water, one will be for compost tea, one will be for an overhead foliar system (which I have said for years I want to build but never seem to get to it), and one is an extra/back up system for whatever else we may need in the future. Ideally stainless steel sloped drains would have been used, like at a brewery but they were outrageously expensive, and would have required the slab to be twice as thick to account for the slope. The whole slab will have a slight "W" shape to it, so all goes away from the walls and raised beds into the two drains.
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Meanwhile the outdoor plants are all starting to shift into flower mode. Everything was top dressed with neem seed meal, baseline granular, and some 4-6-1 mocha bat guano this last week. I settled on the Biolink 0-6-0 calcium for our organic calcium foliar as well. This was a pic of one of the Kush Cleaner beds from 707seedbank, probably the largest bed in the garden this year:
Oh, this last week we were also featured by Natural Cannabis Company (a chain of medical dispensaries in Mendocino, Sonoma and Oakland) as one of their picks for the top 4 best light dep buds of the summer. I actually had no idea until I stopped by two weeks after dropping some there, and they showed me their special release "light dep box" with our Urkle Wreck front and center :) .
If we can get results like this with just PVC pipe and 2x4's, some Sunmaster plastic, plus a couple of box fans and fluorescent shop lights, I can't wait to see what we can do with a real greenhouse :
Oh, this last week we were also featured by Natural Cannabis Company (a chain of medical dispensaries in Mendocino, Sonoma and Oakland) as one of their picks for the top 4 best light dep buds of the summer. I actually had no idea until I stopped by two weeks after dropping some there, and they showed me their special release "light dep box" with our Urkle Wreck front and center :) .
If we can get results like this with just PVC pipe and 2x4's, some Sunmaster plastic, plus a couple of box fans and fluorescent shop lights, I can't wait to see what we can do with a real greenhouse :
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Nice setup, good to see u used the legit pex. Not that crap from home depot. Looks really nice. Do u have a tank less going up to control the heating?
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The company that installed the PEX recommended we build a small boiler room next to the greenhouse to heat it. I will look into a tankless as well though. I at least want to install a tankless on the irrigation lines so I can get the water up to 60-65 when irrigating during the cold winter months.
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Two words. Jesus Christ.
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What size raised bed is she in? Seed / of clone ? Prob dumb question, that huge damn near has to be a seed plant.
I been debating between doing simple raised bed boxes for next year, or going direct in ground with no beds. I like the idea of beds though because I can just make them, and then fill em with EWC and cover crop and mulch all around them heavy with wood bark, and have a neat tidy garden. This season has been a challenge fighting off the weeds, and organization etc. Definitely learned some valuable lessons this season
I been debating between doing simple raised bed boxes for next year, or going direct in ground with no beds. I like the idea of beds though because I can just make them, and then fill em with EWC and cover crop and mulch all around them heavy with wood bark, and have a neat tidy garden. This season has been a challenge fighting off the weeds, and organization etc. Definitely learned some valuable lessons this season
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Out of curiosity, how much $ you think you will have in the greenhouse? Gotta say man, you nailed it when you said,
If you can do what you do with pvc and sunmaster, what a real greenhouse will do for ya.... thats truth right there man!
If you can do what you do with pvc and sunmaster, what a real greenhouse will do for ya.... thats truth right there man!
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Definitely a seed plant, they always get the biggest. The raised bed is 6' x 6' x 2' deep. I am a big fan of raised beds, I think they tend to produce better results than either smart pots or growing directly in the ground and are my preferred cultivation method.
By the time the greenhouse is to the point where basic construction is done, we can move the plants in, we will be at about $65-$70 per square foot. Once all the future upgrades are added we will probably be up around $90-$100 per square foot. I was a little hesitant to invest so much in it at first, but after getting some second opinions, and doing some research it became very clear that this was NOT something that would be wise to 'cheap out' on. Doing it right the first time will give us a far better return on our investment in the long run. We are building it to be damn near indestructible, long lasting, and efficient. Heck, this greenhouse will probably outlive me - my grand-kids will be able to grow plants in this thing haha :)
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With all of the intensive prep/work you have going on I am honored you even remembered about the pics, Blaze. Much respect.
No worries. I'm cleaning out some lower stuff and dead leaf and am running with it. Gonna be a learning experience all around. I'm sure if I keep tuning in here I'll pick up a few tips/etc. no matter what. Good show
No worries. I'm cleaning out some lower stuff and dead leaf and am running with it. Gonna be a learning experience all around. I'm sure if I keep tuning in here I'll pick up a few tips/etc. no matter what. Good show
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Well the concrete boom truck got here bright and early at 6 AM today, ready to rock and roll. I have never seen one in action before, it was a very impressive piece of machinery. The size and reach that it had was pretty incredible, and this was apparently the 'small' boom truck, since the larger one would not make it up our road. It ended up taking 61 yards of concrete to finish the entire slab. On Monday the forms will get knocked down, there will be little bit of clean up to do on the concrete work, and the metal frame for the greenhouse will start going up.
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