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Aqua Man said:
I never said there was a need. I said there "may" be a benefit. In those soils there is some nutrients already available not fully organic form.
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Some micro nutes in kelp and worm castings are immediately available but no real amounts of npk without breakdown.
 
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Glassdub said:
Robert addressed this in the Humus post under Humic Substances, the intent was to point out that humus (or humic acid) is a ill defined vagary that may as well be called compost or black gold (my words) so when companies include it as an ingredient it could mean anything or nothing so in practical terms just snake oil.
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They usually label “from Leonardite” meaning they used the process or the product from extraction.

And yes i know there is controversy about its effectiveness. But the article you attached is the only one like that i have seen.
 
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MIMedGrower said:
No one was more skeptical than me. It took 6 months for the owner to convince me to take the job even.

I showed the studies he sent me to my own family doctor and he agreed that there was info on actual cause of action that interested him.

I wish i had my studies from my old office to show you. Naturepaths learn this stuff in school now.
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At the risk of coming off half cocked, I really don't have the time today, Naturepaths are kinda different but seem in general to be a catch all for alternative medicine in general, I really don't know, would have to be taken on a case by case basis.
 
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Glassdub said:
At the risk of coming off half cocked, I really don't have the time today, Naturepaths are kinda different but seem in general to be a catch all for alternative medicine in general, I really don't know, would have to be taken on a case by case basis.
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Some are good and some not. Just like doctors or anyone.
 
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MIMedGrower said:
They usually label “from Leonardite” meaning they used the process or the product from extraction.

And yes i know there is controversy about its effectiveness. But the article you attached is the only one like that i have seen.
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Seems to be a lack of EDU level data on the subject, found one from about 20 years ago that essentially stated that the jury was out, tons of unsubstantiated posts touting it as the holy grail of horticulture though.
 
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Glassdub said:
Seems to be a lack of EDU level data on the subject, found one from about 20 years ago that essentially stated that the jury was out, tons of unsubstantiated posts touting it as the holy grail of horticulture though.
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Look up proper ratio of seaweed extract to humic acid. There are tests that show increased soil health and uptake. Its sold as a soil conditioner at the feed store.

I have not searched this stuff in a couple years.
 
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Glassdub said:
Robert has a more recent addendum on the subject.
www.gardenmyths.com

Are Humic Substances Good for the Garden?

Should you add humic Substances, humic acid or humate to the garden? Find out which is best for your garden and how to use it properly.
www.gardenmyths.com www.gardenmyths.com
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I have read that only some of the humic and folic acid products are effective a few times.

The article doesnt mention the main thing these products are sold for in container gardening. It is said to chelate nutrients for immediate uptake.

The articles posted are about using it as organic input. And i agree that is not right. Also it is not organic certified when a coal extraction as far as i know.
 
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