Broad Mites In Colorado

We Solidarity · Feb 17, 2016

What up guys - with a record hot summer approaching I thought I would go ahead and test the waters and see how many growers in CO have experienced the dreaded Broad Mite that started surfacing in California a few years ago. I just heard of a possible infestation in a commercial Denver garden that was sourcing clones from a clone bank in the city. I'm really hoping these are just rumors, has anyone experienced and seen them first hand?

gravekat303 · Feb 17, 2016

I have not I have a pal that buys stupid amount of clones every year I'm talking hundreds of different cuts each year and he said he's only seen spider mites aphids and gnats

LocalGrowGuy · Feb 18, 2016

We Solidarity said:
What up guys - with a record hot summer approaching I thought I would go ahead and test the waters and see how many growers in CO have experienced the dreaded Broad Mite that started surfacing in California a few years ago. I just heard of a possible infestation in a commercial Denver garden that was sourcing clones from a clone bank in the city. I'm really hoping these are just rumors, has anyone experienced and seen them first hand?

I can't imagine anyone in the industry volunteering their pest problems to the public.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/broad-mite-control.76141/

We Solidarity · Feb 18, 2016

LocalGrowGuy said:
I can't imagine anyone in the industry volunteering their pest problems to the public.

https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/broad-mite-control.76141/

Yeah well I feel bad for anyone who doesn't want to make this a transparent issue...it's one thing if you can't build a grow right and constantly fight mold, it's another entirely if you are vectoring a very difficult and aggressive pest.

I'm just trying to get a gauge for how widespread the problem is, I've already been contacted by two commercial growers who deal with them, both in the Denver area. Idk if you remember how bad the russets were last year, over half the growers in the area were dealing with them. Broad mites make russets look cute.

Bulldog11 · Feb 18, 2016

I think for sure the other way around. Russets are much worse than Broad mites. IMO

We Solidarity · Feb 18, 2016

Bulldog11 said:
I think for sure the other way around. Russets are much worse than Broad mites. IMO

good to know...the knowledge just isn't out here yet, so everything I've heard about broad mites makes them seem like the worst. I remember reading OBS' posts about broads, saying they were the single most destructive bug he's seen, and it seems once they are established enough to show signs on the plants you're already infested.

I know a lot of people who were ravaged by russets, but I know a lot more who beat them back and haven't dealt with them again. Everything I've read online about broads and all the people I talk to in Cali say that you can get ahead of them, but you never actually beat them.

LocalGrowGuy · Feb 18, 2016

We Solidarity said:
Yeah well I feel bad for anyone who doesn't want to make this a transparent issue...it's one thing if you can't build a grow right and constantly fight mold, it's another entirely if you are vectoring a very difficult and aggressive pest.

I'm just trying to get a gauge for how widespread the problem is, I've already been contacted by two commercial growers who deal with them, both in the Denver area. Idk if you remember how bad the russets were last year, over half the growers in the area were dealing with them. Broad mites make russets look cute.

Regulated grows would never volunteer such information that you'd find here with lesser regulated situations and growers.

jumpincactus · Feb 18, 2016

We Solidarity said:
good to know...the knowledge just isn't out here yet, so everything I've heard about broad mites makes them seem like the worst. I remember reading OBS' posts about broads, saying they were the single most destructive bug he's seen, and it seems once they are established enough to show signs on the plants you're already infested.

I know a lot of people who were ravaged by russets, but I know a lot more who beat them back and haven't dealt with them again. Everything I've read online about broads and all the people I talk to in Cali say that you can get ahead of them, but you never actually beat them.

That is a accurate statement.

I believe we are as more states jump on the cannabis train and with all of the clone swapping and or purchase we are going to see an increase in pestademics due to the wide exposure from various regions State side & world wide. I also feel that most folks are too lax when taking in clones and dont take the time to decon the cuttings before entering them in to their grow spaces, which exacerbates the problem. As a reef keeper when I was in the hobby I would never accept a coral fragment and enter it into my reef tank unless I quarantined the frag for a period of time and do a bacterial dip. When in my case you could lose 10k in live corals you just dont take the chance.

But I also know time is money and people get impatient and lax, however it causes some real problems I see as only getting worse before it gets better. Peace

We Solidarity · Feb 18, 2016

LocalGrowGuy said:
Regulated grows would never volunteer such information that you'd find here with lesser regulated situations and growers.

ok. you keep telling yourself that pal, the industry really isn't that big...not a single individual I've talked to has been "secretive" about their problems and everyone is on the lookout for broad mites...all of us on the commercial side are in the same boat with trying to establish IPM protocol beyond systemics and using products on the "approved" list, thankfully I've only heard of the broads in two locations and not a single person or company that i've heard from or reached out to has dealt with broads yet. Russets are just about everywhere, though.

kolah · Feb 18, 2016

A few summers ago I had a bad case of broad and cyclamen mites in an outdoor greenhouse
(an all organic grow). All the plants were high-end genetics and were started from seeds. I lost about 25 plants and saved another 20 by exposing them to 3 treatments of extreme heat of 120 degrees for 3 hour cycles over 6 days. It wasn't pretty. By the time I diagnosed it they kicked my ass. I scoped my plants several times but missed the little fuckers.

After that ordeal I do a preventative weekly spray of habanaro peppers mixed with garlic and soap.

Savage Henry · Feb 18, 2016

The approved list would be fine for preventative measures but won't do a damn thing for knockdown and/or eradication.

Those broads will turn you into a crazy person compulsively scoping any internodes that look at you funny.

If you have a solid ipm strategy in place then things should be alright. Prevention and good nutrition are key with these sons of bitches.

I'm at about 10% of your scale, @We Solidarity but if I can offer any usable insight the best method of prevention ime is keeping all cloning in-house.

CaliRay · Feb 19, 2016

Greetings farmer's. Can anyone tell me how long after using any pesticides, should you wait to introduce predator mites into your garden??

We Solidarity · Feb 19, 2016

CaliRay said:
Greetings farmer's. Can anyone tell me how long after using any pesticides, should you wait to introduce predator mites into your garden??

That's very easy information to get hold of...I'm pretty sure you can (gasp) Google it

Bulldog11 · Feb 19, 2016

depends on the pesticide used.

If your using neem, right away. Avid or other junk, read the labels

CaliRay · Feb 19, 2016

We Solidarity said:
That's very easy information to get hold of...I'm pretty sure you can (gasp) Google it

So true. However. I was given some by a friend avid and judo. I thoughtI could come to the farm and ask with out someone busting my balls.

GrowGod · Feb 19, 2016

CaliRay said:
So true. However. I was given some by a friend avid and judo. I thoughtI could come to the farm and ask with out someone busting my balls.

You should be good to go after all is dry. Wait a day or three just to be safe. Those pesticides are affective when the pest bites the plant"systemic" and should not be a problem with predators.
If using a kill on contact pesticide you may have to wait longer

CaliRay · Feb 19, 2016

GrowGod said:
You should be good to go after all is dry. Wait a day or three just to be safe. Those pesticides are affective when the pest bites the plant"systemic" and should not be a problem with predators.
If using a kill on contact pesticide you may have to wait longer

I used judo, and avid in rotation. I appreciate your comment

GrowGod · Feb 19, 2016

CaliRay said:
I used judo, and avid in rotation. I appreciate your comment

Do remember if your dealing with broads or russets they will become immune pretty fast especially with avid. After 3-4 uses this becomes a huge problem if you didn't erradicate them. That's why people have such a hard time getting rid of them.

CaliRay · Feb 19, 2016

GrowGod said:
Do remember if your dealing with broads or russets they will become immune pretty fast especially with avid. After 3-4 uses this becomes a huge problem if you didn't erradicate them. That's why people have such a hard time getting rid of them.

Rust mites. I dunked my plants in a 5 gallon bucket of avid, 1 mil Per gallon. 3 days later I ducked them in judo a 1 mil Per gallon. Dead everything. I will be using predator mites as a last treatment.

GrowGod · Feb 19, 2016

CaliRay said:
Rust mites. I dunked my plants in a 5 gallon bucket of avid, 1 mil Per gallon. 3 days later I ducked them in judo a 1 mil Per gallon. Dead everything. I will be using predator mites as a last treatment.

So you don't have any flowering plants or large mother plants? If not you have a good chance of winning. I would repeat that cycle two maybe even 3 times but do it every other day instead of every 3 days. Then I would go with the preditors.

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