Bud Density

dilligaf · Jan 11, 2017

I am using a 400w hps to flower..but i dont get much density to the buds..they look nice just not .much weight..anybody else use these indoors anymore..i am going to start next grow soon with simple soil blend ...maybe the old soil was holding it back..just not sure..thanks for consideration

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MirrorZen · Jan 11, 2017

Has a lot to do more than just lighting, I have gotten rock hard buds from 400s more than 1000s just smaller buds. I also raise my lights with the last three weeks and I've noticed this helps as well. Could be the strains you are growing. Didn't give us a lot to go off of except lighting.

GreenLion · Jan 11, 2017

New bulb might help..most replace every 1 to 2 grows

dilligaf · Jan 11, 2017

Most are sativa dom but i did one grow with sensi star which i am pretty sure is indica dom..also have grown blueberry..light buds..may not have had soil ammended right..my soil ph meter never gave me a reading so ph is probably just one of the problems..thanks

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dilligaf · Jan 11, 2017

GreenLion said:
New bulb might help..most replace every 1 to 2 grows

I know i need a new mh and hps bulbs..but at a hundred for the hps and 130 for the mh they are cost prohibitive

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MirrorZen · Jan 11, 2017

Densest buds I have grown were from Sensi Star, straight rocks, hated it because you can't sell rocks basically anywhere. Ppl hate paying $20 for one small rock bud . Your environment might not be dialed in..

DemonTrich · Jan 11, 2017

There are many things that go along with dense buds.

Genetics
Grower experience
Medium
Co2
Temps
Lighting
Nutrients
Additives

I just read adding silica thru week 5 or 6 in flower makes some rock hard ass nuggets. Just something I read, I have no proof. But I may try it next run. I normally stop adding silica at flip.

rascali · Jan 15, 2017

In the glory days of Detroit Iron there was an adage "There is no replacement for displacement". If you're running 400w, expect 400w bud - or in your case with an old bulb, old reflector, old ballast = 280w bud.

Another adage, "you need to spend money to make money, (or good pot!)"

The Terps · Jan 15, 2017

The wattage doesn't matter as most know, at ideal distances you get more light from a 600 than a 1000 in the case of intensity at each lamps appropriate distance and 400 watts are right in the mix. Again at ideal heights. You just won't produce in all the areas the 1000 watt will produce. The 1000 light will travel further with more energy that's what we call spread.

Mmjcaveman · Jan 15, 2017

Toward the flushing phase of your flower regimen, lower your daily temps slowly until you are in the low 60s at night low 70s during the day. I have heard this helps

Mmjcaveman · Jan 15, 2017

The plant will actually densen up its buds from cold air I've heard it's the plant keeping its heat as much as possible just like when people gather in a circle to warm up versus being spread around each other

mandalaman · Jan 15, 2017

DemonTrich said:
There are many things that go along with dense buds.

Genetics
Grower experience
Medium
Co2
Temps
Lighting
Nutrients
Additives

I just read adding silica thru week 5 or 6 in flower makes some rock hard ass nuggets. Just something I read, I have no proof. But I may try it next run. I normally stop adding silica at flip.

Good to know. Do you find Silica makes the stems more prone to breakage? It's not that they're brittle maybe the stems are so thick that the leverage from bending puts to much pressure on the joint and it pops. Or is that just me being clumsy :|

Mmjcaveman · Jan 15, 2017

Strong plant tissues are generated from higher levels of silicon that helps the plant flourish in adverse environmental conditions such as heat, drought or frost. Silica is very effective in both Soil and Hydroponic gardens.

REALSTYLES · Jan 15, 2017

I use HID Killas lol Cree CXB3590s and genetics play a role.

markesparza1 · Jan 15, 2017

Genetics and climate I've grown the same strain and got fluff and got a portable ac and got the temps in the 60 and it came out 10x more dense !

dan1989 · Jan 15, 2017

A good bud hardener additive is always a good thing to have. If you can rule out the common problems like PH, lighting etc then maybe it is just genetics, but I like to think you can get nice hard buds from any strain with the right input. Maybe not big ones but hard yes. I use Dutch Pro explode.

Bulldog420 · Jan 15, 2017

calcium calcium calcium

DemonTrich · Jan 15, 2017

Silica is supposed to help build stem .strength, drought, stress, under/over watering. I'll try next run, adding silica thru week 6 in flower.

DemonTrich · Jan 15, 2017

There are guys killing it with 315cmh. By the looks of my grow, I'll kill my previous harvests. Went from 3x600hps to 4x315cmh. Less watts, more yield. :)

rmoltis · Jan 15, 2017

mandalaman said:
Good to know. Do you find Silica makes the stems more prone to breakage? It's not that they're brittle maybe the stems are so thick that the leverage from bending puts to much pressure on the joint and it pops. Or is that just me being clumsy :|

You should be training branches when they are young and fresh.

Harder branches have limits
If you train them gently while fresh, soft and still growing you can basically point them anywhere.

Old hard branches should not be trained. Prone to breakage.

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