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Oh yea I know you aren't, we just get a lot of newbies coming through the forums so I like to be careful. Your outdoor looks awesome BTW, Definitely deserved the POTM nomination
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POTM?
 
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I know the feeling!
 
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I've found like 3 Carerpillar's so far.
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Well, checking over my plants today and i found these little dudes. Eating at the stems - only 3 small parts so far but im sure theyre all over. Harvesting soon anyway.
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Well, checking over my plants today and i found these little dudes. Eating at the stems - only 3 small parts so far but im sure theyre all over. Harvesting soon anyway.
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Thanks for the update! Sorry to hear about those little pests. It’s good that you caught them early. Keep an eye on the plants, and hopefully, they won’t cause much more damage before harvest.
 
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I am sure I've smoked some awful shit in my day just don't want a newb to burn a nug covered in rot you know. No worries man
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It's good that folks look out for the newbee's here, me being one of them! Having a first grow of 12 plants has certainly taught me a thing or two this season. As for the Mold, I would say that I've tossed a good couple of pounds of fresh weed. The way I've been doing it is this, and please let me know if you all agree:

When I find obvious mold, I inspect the rest of the bud. If the mold seems isolated, I remove the mold and salvage the rest of the Bud. If the Rot seems to have effected other parts, I toss the whole bud. If the Rot seems dispersed to more then two or three place on a Cola, I toss the whole Cola. In one case, I tossed an entire plant because the mold was on every stem, every Cola and in more than one place. I just didn't seem reasonable to continue. When I do keep a bud/cola, I bend the bud to see the stem to make sure it's not brown/grey/black. I found that bud rot is confusing when the plant is wet from rain. Those red hairs can look like mush and resemble rot. I think I probably tossed some good week before I figured this out. Hopefully keeping the parts that look good and just tossing the rotted pieces is legit. It does freak me out a bit thinking about Rot that might be lurking in these buds undetected.
 
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Could be bud end rot from a calcium deficiency if you arent seeing any mold on the affected buds? Another possibility is worms/caterpillars. We have a lot of cabbage moths here and they like to lay eggs in buds. The eggs become caterpillars and feed on the plant. Pop the end off one of the buds. If you see black stuff that's poop. Very small worms can take up residence in buds or even in stems/branches. Back in the late 80s/early 90s IIRC there was this killer bud going around. My buddies and I discovered that there were these tiny dead worms in the stems. The flower was untouched. Dealers thought we were nuts going around asking for the weed with the worms.
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Great info thanks for sharing. I pulled a plant this year for bud rot that turned out to be bug poop. Wish I'd joined earlier.
 
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Here's a picture of a bud at 1, 2, 5, and 10X magnify on my iPhone. I'm thinking a couple more weeks, but do you think I'm close enough that if I had to chop sooner I might get half way decent results?

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I'm definately not an expert, but I have been inspecting my early cut under a microscope to monitor what happens with the trichomes after the cut. I had no amber when cut. Many did transition to a light orange / amber during the drying process. The buds are curing with no further changes to the trichomes.

Just for shits and giggles, knowing it was going to be harsh, I tried a bud (picked on 9/9/24) to see if it would have any affect as I wasn't sure the change to amber would yield results - if it happened after the cut. It did have an affect besides hurting my throat, a little buzz. I'm going to make edibles and use double the amount. My plant was a little further along then yours, based on pistil color but not nearly as resinous.

Good luck, I hope it works out.
 
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Roll you up some mullein with your smoke, Jimmie. Help clean out your lungs. Even smoking it helps your lungs out. Lizards and snake skins is wild.
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Didn't know you could smoke mullen, I just toss mine in tea. Good to know.
 
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It's good that folks look out for the newbee's here, me being one of them! Having a first grow of 12 plants has certainly taught me a thing or two this season. As for the Mold, I would say that I've tossed a good couple of pounds of fresh weed. The way I've been doing it is this, and please let me know if you all agree:

When I find obvious mold, I inspect the rest of the bud. If the mold seems isolated, I remove the mold and salvage the rest of the Bud. If the Rot seems to have effected other parts, I toss the whole bud. If the Rot seems dispersed to more then two or three place on a Cola, I toss the whole Cola. In one case, I tossed an entire plant because the mold was on every stem, every Cola and in more than one place. I just didn't seem reasonable to continue. When I do keep a bud/cola, I bend the bud to see the stem to make sure it's not brown/grey/black. I found that bud rot is confusing when the plant is wet from rain. Those red hairs can look like mush and resemble rot. I think I probably tossed some good week before I figured this out. Hopefully keeping the parts that look good and just tossing the rotted pieces is legit. It does freak me out a bit thinking about Rot that might be lurking in these buds undetected.
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The dark orange an dred hairs give me anxiety lol they do look like rot sometimes. Personally you can save buds but I don't risk it. Rot or a lot of pm and the whole branch goes. Pm is different if it's not on the buds I let it try to recover but any heavy spot gets removed. It's a part of life just don't end up with rot innyourndry room or it's all screwed. A good tip is see s dead sugar leaf, pull on it, if it comes out easy it's rot. Remember sunlight and air flow prevent the disease BUT a silent killer are those stupid dead leaves that blow and get stuck to buds. I remove those daily just to be safe. That is what I have off the top of my head, hang in there. We have 4 days of rain do I might lost my last plant. If you grow pounds then tossing weed doesn't matter. Play it safe
 
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I also make a mullein tincture for my family members that have asthma and COPD. Stuff is incredible.
 
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The obvious bud rot is easy to identify - sticks out like a sore thumb. Where I get freaked out is where I cannot tell the difference between red/dark hairs and Rot. Does this look like rot or am I just over thinking this:

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Looks like rot to me, but it’s hard to tell from pictures! Sometimes I wonder if a UV flashlight might help you sort through all of this stuff. They don’t cost much. What a tedious process! Maybe you’ve got an old black light laying around from your hippie days!
 
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My crops a total loss due to powder mildew. I can feel your pain.

There just 5 weeks (started flowering August 16th).

Its defo one of the sucky parts to outdoor growing when you can't avoid extreme humidity. But when everything goes right the smoke is 10x better.

I had issues with rot before. Due to hot sunny days and cool nights. The bud becomes soaked with dew and condensation.

I have a powerful inline fan. Its like a grow fan on steroids. It works to dry plants out but its not sensible to have it running all through every night.

Rot is at least manageable sure you take some loss but it won't poison your lungs or run away ramped on your crops like PM.

Heres some shame. The buds were looking gorgeous, densely packed and caked with trichs. They would be up there in my top 5 somewhere had they got to finale to 7-8 weeks.

Okay enough, I am starting to tear up lol.
 

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Looks like rot to me, but it’s hard to tell from pictures! Sometimes I wonder if a UV flashlight might help you sort through all of this stuff. They don’t cost much. What a tedious process! Maybe you’ve got an old black light laying around from your hippie days!
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There were still some hippies around when I was born, but they were fading fast!

I might just toss this whole plant. I hope I didn't put moldy weed in my hanging baskets. Now I'm freaking out about mold.
 
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There were still some hippies around when I was born, but they were fading fast!

I might just toss this whole plant. I hope I didn't put moldy weed in my hanging baskets. Now I'm freaking out about mold.
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Sorry to hear. Sucks to go through such a process only to get screwed in the end.
 
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There were still some hippies around when I was born, but they were fading fast!

I might just toss this whole plant. I hope I didn't put moldy weed in my hanging baskets. Now I'm freaking out about mold.
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Watch it! You young squirt! L O L! Might be able to buy a UV light bulb at a local store, and give it a whirl!
 
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Watch it! You young squirt! L O L! Might be able to buy a UV light bulb at a local store, and give it a whirl!
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At this point, I'm just tossing anything that even looks like bud rot. Fuck it.
 
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Well, checking over my plants today and i found these little dudes. Eating at the stems - only 3 small parts so far but im sure theyre all over. Harvesting soon anyway.
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Scum bag worms i just hate them
 
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can't do much against the weather and rh ...

same here even indoor, out of 8 plants 4 main colas had mold, lost half of them.

and due to high rh what's been cut two weeks ago isn't yet dry ...
 
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Scum bag worms i just hate them
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Oh, come on galgrows! Worms are people too!
 
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