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Lol. You havent “fixed” anything. You are as bad as the tobacco virus panicking noobs with this mutation crap.
You can water and nute stress a young plant into a lot of problems. Add some lst and topping during the stress. Now a transplant, now a flush, etc.
None of the other plants look anything like your old clone. And others are not having your issue.
And according to youI’m assuming you growing this outdoors. This is not mold or anything to that degree. Look at the rest of the bud looks normal and you don’t see the mold in it. Only parts of a bud are damaged which lead me to suspect there is only one creature that will damage buds like that. I’m surprised no one got this diagnosis. The tell tell signs are an outdoor grow. What’s the issue.Bud worms. When only parts of buds turn brown outdoors and the rest of the bud looks healthy it’s not a mold. Especially when the grower is not making any over watering or stagnant water claims. Where are the real growers on these threads with experience. 6 misdiagnoses today I fixed. 5 viroid and 1 bud worm problem. Been growing for 20+ years I’ve seen it all. Nobody seems to know anything these days but to blame everything on nutes or mold.
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Trying to Stay civil here but your sounding like a propaganda machine... I also agree insulting the people on this forum is well about as shitty as your ability to diagnose plants. You have not helped a single person by loosely handing out the same imo unfounded diagnosis to every question on plant health.Of course I know you can stress a small plant but lately many problems are arising from viroids which can create secondary nute problema. But if you notice the branching patterns on those other plants. That’s why I’m saying that.
What do you mean that none of the other plants look like your old clone? I’m referring to the branching horizontal growth pattern that I’m starting to notice more and more on a lot of new issues. Never saw that back in the day just the nute lock or deficiency, fungi, bacteria damage.
And according to you
Trying to Stay civil here but your sounding like a propaganda machine... I also agree insulting the people on this forum is well about as shitty as your ability to diagnose plants. You have not helped a single person by loosely handing out the same imo unfounded diagnosis to every question on plant health.
I'm just gonna stop here before I lose my Canadian citizenship for not being nice.
I'm not saying its one thing or another. I'm say in all of your posts you are loosely giving out the same diagnosis that is imo highly unlikely and then bashing the forum saying you can't believe nobody is catching this and saying where are the real growers at then claiming you fixed 5 viroid issues in one day.So what makes you think it’s not a bud worm problem.? That’s what I’m curios to know? You can clearly see he has the plant outdoors and him mentioning the rain getting to it. I’m not saying anything about viroids here. I’m talking to someone who is asking me about the posts on another thread.
You can clearly see the local damage to part of the bud and the rest of bud looks fine
I'm not saying its one thing or another. I'm say in all of your posts you are loosely giving out the same diagnosis that is imo highly unlikely and then bashing the forum saying you can't believe nobody is catching this and saying where are the real growers at then claiming you fixed 5 viroid issues in one day.
What a fucking load of shit buddy. I honestly hope ppl can see through this crap and ignore the info. You come to the forum copy/paste a bunch of info. Then start going into threads and without any credible reason or information that would indicate you are diagnosing everything as viroid related.
So yes you are as in every single thread you post in talking once again about viroid. I'm posting here because it's on of the many threads you posted in.
And just what do you propose to fix it? And your are not posting that it's possible... You are telling people that's thier plants are mutants and have a virus... Not it could be an issue just out and out it is the issue. I consider that to be very irresponsible.Ok you make a point about me being a bit loose on the issue. But it’s not highly and unlikely that most of the plants that have issues may contain a viroid problem as the essence. If they are showing classic symptoms of viroid issues as well. If the horizontal branching patterns were absent, and the deformed leaves and discoloration were absent we can rule out pathogens but when you see both and also nutrient deficiencies and or toxicity then you can’t rule out the viroid problem as the probable root cause to the secondary problems, the obvious ones we all are seeing.
Two different buds on same plant. One close up
And just what do you propose to fix it? And your are not posting that it's possible... You are telling people that's thier plants are mutants and have a virus... Not it could be an issue just out and out it is the issue. I consider that to be very irresponsible.
Bud Rot, just had it my self. Cut off the rot and burn it, keep the rest of the bud as dry and open as you can, and you should be ok, but if you leave it for a week your doomed, because in the right conditions it can devastate your whole crop.
I agree as would any grower that keeping an ideal environment is key. But simply put you cannot just apply this to every symptom that a plant can express. It's just not the case as many of us have seen with the tobacco mosaic disease (what you posted in another thread) hysteria. I have heard of one case apparently being validated ever. And I didn't get to see the data produced by the lab.There is no solution to eliminate viruses unless you do tissue culture cloning with a mix of cold / hot treatments. In other words you must sent it to a professional lab and it will cost thousands of dollars.
What I propose is keeping a sterile and healthy environment. Especially in the veg. Where moms and veg plants sit. This is the most important place to safeguard your genetics and plants going into flower. It is also the place where you can control and eliminate problems going into flower room. Most of the time once the problem is in the flower room. All you can do is control it and knock it far enough back so buds don’t get too affected.
What I propose:
1) sterilization of propagation equipment
2) sealed indoor veg environments where you can control every aspect of the room as best as possible
3) eliminate bugs and pest in veg phase.
4) keep plants healthy. By feeding them right and providing everything they need so they can have strong immune systems.
5) work on the root systems
6)Beneficial bacteria
7) bottom line try to make them as stress free as possible and viroids will never be an issue because they can’t reproduce and take over plants.
Well if the majority consensus claims bud rot then thats what it is. I didn’t see the mold in it but could be the case. I had a similar looking issue and it was bud worms. Outdoor is not my forte as indoors is. That’s how problems are solved in these forums, but speculating other similar symptoms is great to eliminate those possibilities
I agree as would any grower that keeping an ideal environment is key. But simply put you cannot just apply this to every symptom that a plant can express. It's just not the case as many of us have seen with the tobacco mosaic disease (what you posted in another thread) hysteria. I have heard of one case apparently being validated ever. And I didn't get to see the data produced by the lab.
As is in life almost 99% of the time the simplest explanation is almost always the right explanation. Yet you come on here and identify 5 different grows with this and claimed to have fixed them somehow???
It's doesn't make even the slightest sense.
I'll tell you what causes bad plants, bad cuttings, which in turn creates bad plants. Nobody likes to chop off top cola for cuttings, so lesser plants are grown from these lesser cuttings, and I don't believe a lesser cutting will grow to be as proud as it's predecessor. If you look at some grow logs, you can see the best plants grow from good strong cuttings, or seeds. Most folk that grow for their own consumption (myself included) take cuttings from the plants they are about to flower, so leave the best shoots to flower. So every now and then I'm forced to swap genetics.
Of course I know you can stress a small plant but lately many problems are arising from viroids which can create secondary nute problema. But if you notice the branching patterns on those other plants. That’s why I’m saying that.
What do you mean that none of the other plants look like your old clone? I’m referring to the branching horizontal growth pattern that I’m starting to notice more and more on a lot of new issues. Never saw that back in the day just the nute lock or deficiency, fungi, bacteria damage.
Once again. I’ll say it again. Most plants are proving these days to contain viruses or viroids. You can have a plant that has a virus, look normal be completely fine and do well if it’s kept in healthy conditions. It’s when it’s immune system is compromised that you see mutations develop. Which leads to nutrient deficiencies, twisted leaves, branching patterns off (mutants), more susceptible to pests and diseases. All of this creates a weaker plant that is now more susceptible to other secondary causes. I don’t see this here with the supposedly bud rot issue. But I suspect bud worm damage. Can anyone make a claim for why it may not be bud worm damage? @Aqua Man
If most plants have this a lot more growers than you would be posting about it.
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