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If you have to ask ...... you don't know
If you don't know..... you shouldn't do it.
This is seriously the advice you have for her?? God, did the title of this thread get changed to "Please, tell me how horribly I'm going to fail!!" ???
As a wise little rabbit's mother said: "If you can't say nothin' nice, don't say nuthin' at all..."
Like this awesome lady has already said several times, she's NOT turning back. If you don't have any of the type of advice she's looking for, then why even say anything???
How about, instead of telling her she's gonna crash and burn if she even attempts this, mabye you could have advised her to not attempt to fill the entire space at the beginning? Start with 1/4 of the space being used and work up from there...
Why be so damn negative about someone else's ambitiousness? Did your ambition get squashed like that when you first started out? Or did you try to "go for broke" and fell flat on your face? Whatever the source for your cynicism, it's definitely not welcome here.
Reading the LCB's faq's, they do not intend to limit the number of producer licenses. they simply want the time to go through the initial glut of applications. they are already required by law to process applications in a timely manner, and this application window simply gives them the time needed to conform to the already established rules.
Actually they do intend on limiting the number of producers whether or not you read it from the faqs or not. I went to one of their licensing seminars and they are aiming for a 2,000,000 sq foot canopy cap when including all the canopy of all the licensed growers. They have this 30 day sign up...then sign up closed at for at least a year when they see what they actually have in production. If they don't have 2,ooo,ooo sq foot being grown they will open the process up but if they are over their 2,000,000 sq ft figure they come to the growers and take a little space away from us all. This is from the mouths of the WA Liquor Control Board.
Hey... so I like your spirit!!! While typing this, one of my favorite songs in life is jamming in the background: You might die trying, by Dave Matthews. Check out the words, as it has seriously inspired me in times when I was doubting my next {life-professional) step.
Any fan of Dave's is a friend of mine:-)))
I am a 57 year old lady that used to grow indoors 20 years ago and things have changed greatly since then:-/
I have a solid 7 years of grow experience but not on this level.
The money I will be using is from friends and family that know my skills at growing in the past and feel I am competent and able to go forward with this.
This doesn't compute.
What on earth do you mean? That I am not 57? That I did not grow indoors for 7 years 20 years ago? That I don't have friends and family willing to invest in what to many of us here seems like a great opportunity? I actually watched "Lost in Space" when I was a kid and this totally computes. I also was 1/2 of an outdoor medical grow here in WA state for the last 4 years with yields of never less than 90 lbs of good bud and usually closer to 120 lbs for the 15 plants that WA state has been allowing for medical. The first year we got 10 lbs per plant on 8 of our girls. I can't even claim to have done anything amazing to it...it just grows outside here very well in our long hot summers.
Seriously I would love to sit and dispute half of the claims here but I have no time for this stuff:-/ I am sure that much more money could be spent to do this as perfectly as possible but I have to work within a framework that I have available to me and that I will do. We have a great deal going for us.....great building that needs next to nothing in the way of huge alterations except exhaust fans.....400 APM power with double 220 outlets every 15 feet on the walls and on poles situated within the growing space.....a landlord that is not only aware of what I my plan is but willing to charge me a substantially lower rent for the first 6 months to try to help make sure the venture works financially......partners that are well funded, ready, willing and excited to be doing this.......some of the cheapest power in the entire nation.......and the list goes on. You folks can continue to debate whether is can be done or not and on what budget it cannot be done, but in the mean time I am going to do my best to make sure it is:-) I will continue to watch the message board for good info because I have seem plenty in various threads but I have no interest in words of gloom and doom. I did not ask for advice on how to run a business...I was seeking help on setting up an grow area on such a large scale. Telling me I need more money is not advice on how to set up a grow room actually...it is telling me how not to even try. Perhaps if someone said you need this, this and this in these quantities I would at least have a figure to shoot for. No one has even suggested one actual thing towards a grow set up here except for those that privately messaged me. That is really what does not compute.
Seriously I've done this (a couple of times) and it is HARD WORK and MAJOR MONEY.
I mean seriously:
*are you gonna pay rent while you are doing seed runs trying to find moms?
*gonna use clones? Do you know how to quarantine?
*know how to treat for spider mites, broad mites, fungus gnats, thrips, pm, etc? Both preventative and during infestation?
That's just three things outta 100's of issues that will need to be addressed that require experience to handle.
I'm not gonna argue with you since you obviously don't know what it takes to set up a warehouse either. The "advice" I posted earlier is the most honest thing that can be said.
I can't cook to save my life, but would it sound smart if came on here posting that I was gonna dump 25-90k into starting my own restaurant? Yeah I used to bake a cake or two like 7 years ago, so does that qualify me to go all in on a major build? This is just a hypothetical, but with restaurants it happens all the time.... grand opening today, bankrupt 6 months later.
Seriously I've done this (a couple of times) and it is HARD WORK and MAJOR MONEY.
I mean seriously:
*are you gonna pay rent while you are doing seed runs trying to find moms?
*gonna use clones? Do you know how to quarantine?
*know how to treat for spider mites, broad mites, fungus gnats, thrips, pm, etc? Both preventative and during infestation?
That's just three things outta 100's of issues that will need to be addressed that require experience to handle.
Really the worst advice that this person could get is some happy "you can do it, follow your dreams" bs that blow hards like you feel compelled to spout off.
But whatever- I'm done.
This is also a MAJOR concern I have for this. BUT, someone has to be the front-runner in all this. IMO, better to have it someone who's experienced in the industry rather than some CEO that it's just a money-making decision to.90k invested into non medical sales?? So, your going to break federal law with no medical status but a NEW legal status that your State is implementing.
I'm all for you growing!! But, be careful, the first wave will be the first to crash
90k invested into non medical sales?? So, your going to break federal law with no medical status but a NEW legal status that your State is implementing.
I'm all for you growing!! But, be careful, the first wave will be the first to crash
The way to avoid Federal attention is A. Follow their guidelines- they publicized those for a reason, B. Use common sense and don't get greedy, which naturally follows C. Keep a low profile. If you want to talk up your business, talk about a peripheral feature, like how environmentally friendly you are or something.
I personally think that the fastest I can get a crop to legal retail outlets here the better because the market will be glutted quickly and since all my start up money is borrowed I need to get in the black as soon as possible. Also I think the first crop to hit retailers will bear the highest prices just so the retail shops can get moving. I have literally been waiting for this for the last 30 years and am so excited I can barely contain myself.
How do you feel about the multitude of soil-less and hydroponic growing options available today? I would suggest not going soil for a large endeavor as the hauling and disposal is a pain.
I don't know how long you've been browsing THCfarmer, but threads of this nature surface from time to time and the reactions are pretty much like the ones you're receiving. Your thread title and the subsequent questions like soil or hydro, SOG or tall plants, etc. lead people to believe your experience level is not where it should be. Those are things you should already have figured out on your smaller grows you experimented with. Do you have any equipment lists put together? Thought about air cooled lighting or bare bulb with A/C? What are your estimates for those things? In my opinion securing space without having a well thought out plan is foolish.
This quote would make me nervous if I was your investor. Not only do you have to get into the black, you are borrowing %100 of funds and need to pay that back. Profits are going to be extremely low at first. Hopefully everything goes perfect, you won't get many second chances should problems arise.
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