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thats interesting,,i got so little of the comfrey i have to wait for it to produce more,,i didnt know when you harvest it,to just twist leaves off,and my dumb ass was out there pulling roots and all,,with all this rain i should have a nice batch coming up and know better now,,im not gonna pull roots though,,i want it for the garden,,and i can always make a salve out of it also,,im wanting some wild lettuce to show it face,,i want to try it for pain,,burns my ass that i have cut down probally a zillion tons of the shit all these years and just thought it was a weed,,always enjoyed watching the milk come out of it,,looks just like opium poppy
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if you gently remove comfrey leaves, try not to break the leaf surface, then take them indoors and put them in a frying pan. This makes a wonderful mosquito repellent. its about 1-2 weeks max indoors, about 2 hours outside. i fry it, crunch it in a few bowls and dot them about entry points. Seems to keep all kinds of bugs away does fried comfrey leaves.
 
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and that my bro is what i was talking about in feed store gossip,lmao
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every little helps. The thing with this organic movement mate, its not so much a product sell as a knowledge pass most of the time.
In 2016 a total of $260million was spent on Organic Research globally. this figure equates to 0.6% of the total available research funding, private and national(state).
Money for study goes where there is a product sell at the end of every story of science and advancement, eg GMO, insecticide, herbicide. We are living in a time of academic prostitution with our once trusted professors, now no better than our untrusted government officials, who I still think we should make wear the colors of donors so we know where we stand.
it is up to all of us to use and observe and develop organics, cause the US and UK governments are bottom of the whole world when it comes to funding Organic research....
 
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Is this bad mold? Or mycos?View attachment 734349 View attachment 734350
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Good stuff. To be exact that's called mycellium aka Santa's beard mold. Good stuff. It actually creates a network in your soil passing nutrients around.

Great subjects have been tapped. Do I believe biochar is the most sustainable way to refertilize lands? No...infertile land can be made fertile again in simple ways with living organic matter. Clover and rye grass can kickstart things. Alfalfa can access nutrients at ridiculous depths in the ground where no other farm crop could. Surface composting. There are just so many other ways. humus is a better source of carbon than charcoal. It has a much better surface area contact.
 
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Can I add you are taking away the most important process by burning organic matter vs letting worms and microbes work it down...enzymatic release. Worms even secrete enzymes through their epidermis.

It's a beautiful morning. Recovering from a 4g nursery pot incident and in the big bed blumat dial in took a tole. They will pick right up though. I'm monitoring but I think im dialed. Time to step back. My only concern is soil and environment at this point.

I wanted to mention a technique I haven't seen practiced at this forum. Leaf tuck training. It does no damage. Matter of fact you have to keep retucking because the fans just pull themselves back up every day or so.
 

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if you gently remove comfrey leaves, try not to break the leaf surface, then take them indoors and put them in a frying pan. This makes a wonderful mosquito repellent. its about 1-2 weeks max indoors, about 2 hours outside. i fry it, crunch it in a few bowls and dot them about entry points. Seems to keep all kinds of bugs away does fried comfrey leaves.
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thats interesting,,gonna have to try
 
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every little helps. The thing with this organic movement mate, its not so much a product sell as a knowledge pass most of the time.
In 2016 a total of $260million was spent on Organic Research globally. this figure equates to 0.6% of the total available research funding, private and national(state).
Money for study goes where there is a product sell at the end of every story of science and advancement, eg GMO, insecticide, herbicide. We are living in a time of academic prostitution with our once trusted professors, now no better than our untrusted government officials, who I still think we should make wear the colors of donors so we know where we stand.
it is up to all of us to use and observe and develop organics, cause the US and UK governments are bottom of the whole world when it comes to funding Organic research....
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you pegged that one,lol
 
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Can I add you are taking away the most important process by burning organic matter vs letting worms and microbes work it down...enzymatic release. Worms even secrete enzymes through their epidermis.

It's a beautiful morning. Recovering from a 4g nursery pot incident and in the big bed blumat dial in took a tole. They will pick right up though. I'm monitoring but I think im dialed. Time to step back. My only concern is soil and environment at this point.

I wanted to mention a technique I haven't seen practiced at this forum. Leaf tuck training. It does no damage. Matter of fact you have to keep retucking because the fans just pull themselves back up every day or so.
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looks good ,should plant some peppers in there too
 
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Good morning all :) mycellium.. Good to know thanks!

I do some tucking here and there on the plants that I don't want to defoliate, but you're right, the fans definitely undo it fairly quickly.

@Organikz is that a straw cover, and why if you don't mind?
 
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looks good ,should plant some peppers in there too
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Im flirting with the idea. I think I'd have to go with spices and herbs. I just plugged in this creeping spicy orange thyme. I'm thinking it's a good IPM cover crop. Hope it takes off. Creepers make great cover.

 
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Im flirting with the idea. I think I'd have to go with spices and herbs. I just plugged in this creeping spicy orange thyme. I'm thinking it's a good IPM cover crop. Hope it takes off. Creepers make great cover.

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peppermint,rosemary,basil,,all fragrant and bugs dont like um,,i like basil the best ,dont screw with my sinus
 
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Caterpillars,Gnats,flies & mites it's a day to day fight to stay on top of things. hopefully the rain washed all the bugs over to Houston for you. I got the Char burner moved over to the thinnest Burn pile,What am i looking for to char up & when? I don't want to scalp the weeds and create more dust. I have Almond,peach,maple & grape & fig leafs.
 
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I can get 2ft. of charcoal from each burn what do you think would be a good amount to mix in a 4 by 4 by 3 hole?
 

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24 cubic foot. So that's 6x24=144 cups I think off the top of my head. Sorry 16 x 3 x 6
 
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24 cubic foot. So that's 6x24=144 cups I think off the top of my head.
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I have to convert to shovel loads,it sounds like a good two week project to start around Thanksgiving. thanks for the info
 
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Caterpillars,Gnats,flies & mites it's a day to day fight to stay on top of things. hopefully the rain washed all the bugs over to Houston for you. I got the Char burner moved over to the thinnest Burn pile,What am i looking for to char up & when? I don't want to scalp the weeds and create more dust. I have Almond,peach,maple & grape & fig leafs.
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do them all,when the fire stops flaming at full strength,beat it down with a shovel,add some more,,do you know what i mean by the flame,,it like when you add a branch that has leaves,the massive flame that comes off,,well when the first pile you got in there and the limbs start to break under the fire,,right then beat down the branches and add another pile of them,do the same,when you run out and have beat it down for last time,,qwench it with water,,spray it all down ,make sure you got it all wet,,by the time your done and there is still smoke qwench it some more,,smoke means ash,,you can use ash to ,but it not what your trying for,,by beating the coals down and throwing on more brush it redirecting the flame to the new stuff and off the coals you have,,you dig what im saying,,let me look back in vids and see if i can get you a good one to explain
 
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peppermint,rosemary,basil,,all fragrant and bugs dont like um,,i like basil the best ,dont screw with my sinus
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What about Sage or Chive? That's what I happen to have next to my outdoor girl.
 
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do them all,when the fire stops flaming at full strength,beat it down with a shovel,add some more,,do you know what i mean by the flame,,it like when you add a branch that has leaves,the massive flame that comes off,,well when the first pile you got in there and the limbs start to break under the fire,,right then beat down the branches and add another pile of them,do the same,when you run out and have beat it down for last time,,qwench it with water,,spray it all down ,make sure you got it all wet,,by the time your done and there is still smoke qwench it some more,,smoke means ash,,you can use ash to ,but it not what your trying for,,by beating the coals down and throwing on more brush it redirecting the flame to the new stuff and off the coals you have,,you dig what im saying,,let me look back in vids and see if i can get you a good one to explain
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I was thinking about scraping it threw a screen to get some 1/2in.chunks & use it like perlite to break up the soil a bit.
 
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What about Sage or Chive? That's what I happen to have next to my outdoor girl.
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sounds good to me,,best plants to attract benifitual garden bugs there a whole list of plants and what they do,but what i read anything that is aromatic keeps most bugs away and deer,,i got a herd of deer and plant stuff in front yard to keep them out of my daughter in laws plants,,works so well that bettween them and me feeding them at back of property they dont even come to front yard or around my garden
 
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I was thinking about scraping it threw a screen to get some 1/2in.chunks & use it like perlite to break up the soil a bit.
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thats perfect,,thats more less what im doing to,,you can screen it to any size you want,,even dust works well in the garden,,the point of it is to absorb nutrients and stop leaching,,it acts like a sponge and holds on to it,,thats why whatever size you decide to use,charge it first,,by charging it,it already has the nutrients in it and wont suck out the nutrients in your soil,,it does that over time,,but charging is giving it to the roots system imediatly,,they have also proved that it also help in diese and pest,,if you think about it,just as i was telling jumpincactus last night,,when i over dosed,first thing they did was make me drink a huge glass of charcoal then pumped my gut,,the charcaol absorbs the poision and after the pump your gut and you puke to high hell you shit the rest,,same thing in the garden bro,,thats why it would be hard for me to be convinced it dont help in breaking up clat=y base soils and such ,,once you qwench the char let it sit over night to cool off,then dig it out of hole or whatever your using and screen it,,i got a old hand crank meat grinder im using,grind it down to a sausage size,lmao,,them im putting in compost pile after i charge it,come planting time it will be well established and it will go on top 3or4 inch of boxes ,that were most garden veggies are anyway,,and over time and adding compost it will go deeper into soil,,i put my clones in it other day when i thought i was gonna lose power,,i had 1 clone with a lot of roots and 3 others that just barely had roots,,all 4 are still alive and the 1 with lots of roots has new growth,,so it works and if im lucky ,by charging the char and it method of holding nutrients in,might even get a way with no feeding at all,,will see,,media base is peat moss,perlite,fresh compost and very little soil,,so will see
 
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24 cubic foot. So that's 6x24=144 cups I think off the top of my head. Sorry 16 x 3 x 6
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lmfao sorry i was high as fuck. lol i have a backward way of doing math. cut the 16 in half to multiply and forgot to double it.
you have 48cubic foot total. You would need 6 cups per cubic foot so that's 288 cups lol. sorry about the stoner math.
 
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