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I use things similar to this, taken from plants I grow, multiple worts, jasmine, lemon grass, garlic, fennel, ginger, cinnamon, lavender, thyme,. i use lots of local plants, i dont know the names in English, herbs mostly.
This area used to be very wealthy, now its very poor but for a few families. What this change did is produce innovation among the local farmers. without money, they made decoctions and concoctions to combat local pests. From these folks i have quickly gained access to what uses people have for typical plants here.
Most communities have folk lore remedies for human health concerns, these more often than not can be used on our plants also. In fact, they are the basis of modern pharma too, although these robbing wankers would never admit this much.
many of the properties of Chinese herbal medicines and so on, are mimicked among local communities esp natives, across the world, using local substitutes and so on. The properties of ginger to produce heat energy to re balance chi, can be applied to plants to overcome many of the problems we share. EG cold defense, fever and infection, typically bought about by environmental changes, such as wind and temps are not only our problems, but also a problem for the plants we love.

i have for sometime used manuka honey as a wound dressing, both for me and for my plants. far from attracting bugs, it does seem to help open wounds heal faster and prevent mold etc. I also use a salve of comfrey roots, in coconut oil. this I make early in the year by sacrificing some plants. it can not be applied to open wounds, but it can be used to reduce swelling, heal scabbed wounds faster, control spots and insect bites and related itching, reduce muscle pain and bone related pains, at least for me and few people we have tested it with. i am considering using this on my plants also as a stem protector paint. I get a bug here in May that bores into the stems and rots plants out in double quick time. Netting lots of plants can be labor intensive, i was looking at faster ways to control the problem. It literally hangs about for 3 weeks then the problems is something else, less terminal and easier to control with OHN and FPJ
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And you know that neem prevents infection...:)
 
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I went all homeopathic on my cold and man I kicked it's ass. Drink ACV 2X a day and drinking green tea with honey and ginger.
 
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I went all homeopathic on my cold and man I kicked it's ass. Drink ACV 2X a day and drinking green tea with honey and ginger.
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try this video
 
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may be it was from a clone?
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From Seed
 
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Man, you got burned or gnarled tips. It's cool. It happens in organics. Potassium is one of the hardest nutrients to keep in your rhizosphere. It can be washed away very easily. Magnesium however is almost impossible to wash away. This is partially why we use gypsum. Keeps magnesium in check.
 
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So my next question is are you getting run-off?
 
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Just curious because i notice when i water down the crown of a smaller plant i get the similar issue. wondering if it's washing available potassium out of my roots. Potassium almost needs to be precipitated at all times. I use kelp meal. Top dress 1/4 cup monthly per plant

kelp meal is just a miracle worker for plants.
 
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I use things similar to this, taken from plants I grow, multiple worts, jasmine, lemon grass, garlic, fennel, ginger, cinnamon, lavender, thyme,. i use lots of local plants, i dont know the names in English, herbs mostly.
This area used to be very wealthy, now its very poor but for a few families. What this change did is produce innovation among the local farmers. without money, they made decoctions and concoctions to combat local pests. From these folks i have quickly gained access to what uses people have for typical plants here.
Most communities have folk lore remedies for human health concerns, these more often than not can be used on our plants also. In fact, they are the basis of modern pharma too, although these robbing wankers would never admit this much.
many of the properties of Chinese herbal medicines and so on, are mimicked among local communities esp natives, across the world, using local substitutes and so on. The properties of ginger to produce heat energy to re balance chi, can be applied to plants to overcome many of the problems we share. EG cold defense, fever and infection, typically bought about by environmental changes, such as wind and temps are not only our problems, but also a problem for the plants we love.

i have for sometime used manuka honey as a wound dressing, both for me and for my plants. far from attracting bugs, it does seem to help open wounds heal faster and prevent mold etc. I also use a salve of comfrey roots, in coconut oil. this I make early in the year by sacrificing some plants. it can not be applied to open wounds, but it can be used to reduce swelling, heal scabbed wounds faster, control spots and insect bites and related itching, reduce muscle pain and bone related pains, at least for me and few people we have tested it with. i am considering using this on my plants also as a stem protector paint. I get a bug here in May that bores into the stems and rots plants out in double quick time. Netting lots of plants can be labor intensive, i was looking at faster ways to control the problem. It literally hangs about for 3 weeks then the problems is something else, less terminal and easier to control with OHN and FPJ
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hey you got me thinking now,comfrey and coconut oil,wonder how long it would stay on the stem,your problems sound the same as mine,they probally from the same wasp ,just difrent regions,,i just might give that a shot myself eco,wont know to i try,im sick of the boer worm
 
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hey you got me thinking now,comfrey and coconut oil,wonder how long it would stay on the stem,your problems sound the same as mine,they probally from the same wasp ,just difrent regions,,i just might give that a shot myself eco,wont know to i try,im sick of the boer worm
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    Neem and karanja are expensive foliar IPMs. Green cleaner is a very expensive IPM. Here is the power of both in 1 mix.

    1 quart bath warm water
    1 TBS cold pressed aloe
    2 TBS peppermint castle soap
    1/2 tsp canola oil
    1/2 tsp neem/karanja oil
    10 drops limonene (orange peel extract)
    10 drops rosemary oil
    10 drops clove oil
    10 drops lavender oil
    10 drops cedar oil


    By happy accident I found this stuff to just eviscerate pest insects. D-limonene is used in agriculture as an enzyme based insecticide. It is a contact killer. Make sure to buy food grade. Organic isn't necessary as long as it's biodegradable.


    orange oil – In a world full of biological pesticides which don’t work very well, orange oil stands out because it wipes out or repels entire colonies, and prevents re-infestations, instead of simply killing insects individually. D-limonene (the main constituent of orange oil) is harmless to humans, but deadly to most insects because it dissolves the waxy coating on the exoskeleton of insects, causing dehydration and asphyxiation. One application of orange oil will destroy a full colony of ants. Then, even more importantly, its powerful scent will eradicate the pheromone trail left behind by the ants. Re-infestation usuallyhappens when “new” ants follow that trail back to the original ant nesting spot. But if they can’t find the pheromone trail, a new colony won’t be setting up shop in your home or business. This oil is so effective at killing bugs, that you should be aware of which bugs you are spraying, as this can also kill beneficial bugs and pollinators.

    Cedar oil – Cedar oil affects octopamine, a compound that is essential to life for pheromone-driven “bad bugs” like fleas and ticks. Octopamine is responsible for regulating heart rate, movement, and behavior in pests. It’s essential for life. Cedar oil blocks the octopamine neurotransmitter receptors in pests, causing them to be repelled from the area. When “bad bugs” come in contact with cedar oil, pests suffocate and die. Mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and beneficial insects are not affected by cedar oil because they do not have octopamine neurotransmitters.
 
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    Organikz
    Neem and karanja are expensive foliar IPMs. Green cleaner is a very expensive IPM. Here is the power of both in 1 mix.

    1 quart bath warm water
    1 TBS cold pressed aloe
    2 TBS peppermint castle soap
    1/2 tsp canola oil
    1/2 tsp neem/karanja oil
    10 drops limonene (orange peel extract)
    10 drops rosemary oil
    10 drops clove oil
    10 drops lavender oil
    10 drops cedar oil


    By happy accident I found this stuff to just eviscerate pest insects. D-limonene is used in agriculture as an enzyme based insecticide. It is a contact killer. Make sure to buy food grade. Organic isn't necessary as long as it's biodegradable.


    orange oil – In a world full of biological pesticides which don’t work very well, orange oil stands out because it wipes out or repels entire colonies, and prevents re-infestations, instead of simply killing insects individually. D-limonene (the main constituent of orange oil) is harmless to humans, but deadly to most insects because it dissolves the waxy coating on the exoskeleton of insects, causing dehydration and asphyxiation. One application of orange oil will destroy a full colony of ants. Then, even more importantly, its powerful scent will eradicate the pheromone trail left behind by the ants. Re-infestation usuallyhappens when “new” ants follow that trail back to the original ant nesting spot. But if they can’t find the pheromone trail, a new colony won’t be setting up shop in your home or business. This oil is so effective at killing bugs, that you should be aware of which bugs you are spraying, as this can also kill beneficial bugs and pollinators.

    Cedar oil – Cedar oil affects octopamine, a compound that is essential to life for pheromone-driven “bad bugs” like fleas and ticks. Octopamine is responsible for regulating heart rate, movement, and behavior in pests. It’s essential for life. Cedar oil blocks the octopamine neurotransmitter receptors in pests, causing them to be repelled from the area. When “bad bugs” come in contact with cedar oil, pests suffocate and die. Mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and beneficial insects are not affected by cedar oil because they do not have octopamine neurotransmitters.
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I'm hitting these fucking mealy bugs with the A-Bomb mix...adding a cup of soap nut concentrate.
 
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  1. Yesterday at 6:05 PM#1

    Organikz
    Neem and karanja are expensive foliar IPMs. Green cleaner is a very expensive IPM. Here is the power of both in 1 mix.

    1 quart bath warm water
    1 TBS cold pressed aloe
    2 TBS peppermint castle soap
    1/2 tsp canola oil
    1/2 tsp neem/karanja oil
    10 drops limonene (orange peel extract)
    10 drops rosemary oil
    10 drops clove oil
    10 drops lavender oil
    10 drops cedar oil


    By happy accident I found this stuff to just eviscerate pest insects. D-limonene is used in agriculture as an enzyme based insecticide. It is a contact killer. Make sure to buy food grade. Organic isn't necessary as long as it's biodegradable.


    orange oil – In a world full of biological pesticides which don’t work very well, orange oil stands out because it wipes out or repels entire colonies, and prevents re-infestations, instead of simply killing insects individually. D-limonene (the main constituent of orange oil) is harmless to humans, but deadly to most insects because it dissolves the waxy coating on the exoskeleton of insects, causing dehydration and asphyxiation. One application of orange oil will destroy a full colony of ants. Then, even more importantly, its powerful scent will eradicate the pheromone trail left behind by the ants. Re-infestation usuallyhappens when “new” ants follow that trail back to the original ant nesting spot. But if they can’t find the pheromone trail, a new colony won’t be setting up shop in your home or business. This oil is so effective at killing bugs, that you should be aware of which bugs you are spraying, as this can also kill beneficial bugs and pollinators.

    Cedar oil – Cedar oil affects octopamine, a compound that is essential to life for pheromone-driven “bad bugs” like fleas and ticks. Octopamine is responsible for regulating heart rate, movement, and behavior in pests. It’s essential for life. Cedar oil blocks the octopamine neurotransmitter receptors in pests, causing them to be repelled from the area. When “bad bugs” come in contact with cedar oil, pests suffocate and die. Mammals, birds, fish, amphibians and beneficial insects are not affected by cedar oil because they do not have octopamine neurotransmitters.
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ive used orange peels and grapefruit peels for years on my dogs,rub there furr with it and no fleas,so this recipe makes a lot of sense
 
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hey you got me thinking now,comfrey and coconut oil,wonder how long it would stay on the stem,your problems sound the same as mine,they probally from the same wasp ,just difrent regions,,i just might give that a shot myself eco,wont know to i try,im sick of the boer worm
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same here buddy. I have latex stem paint, but this is hardly ideal fro me right
 
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So my next question is are you getting run-off?
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Yes I am very good run off and thanks for the advice I may need to give her more bananas
 
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So my next question is are you getting run-off?
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Should I switch her now? 12/12
 
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5 seeds in each cup... i grabbed some super soil brand from ace hardware
 

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same here buddy. I have latex stem paint, but this is hardly ideal fro me right
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ive done that for years on tree trunks,honestly cant really say it works,just something my grandpa did yearly,havent really seen or been soil savy as ive become to enjoy to tell,i will give these squash plants a go at it though,something got to work for them bugars,im about sick of them though,aint much better than a plate full of sautead squash fresh from the garden,lmao
 
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Should I switch her now? 12/12
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i would them plants gonna double in size when stretch ,depends on your head room and what size plants you want
 
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i would them plants gonna double in size when stretch ,depends on your head room and what size plants you want
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they for sure look healthy enough to flip,dont wont to flip if you have had problems in a grow at least till you have gave it a couple weeks to stabilize
 
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5 seeds in each cup... i grabbed some super soil brand from ace hardware
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5 oh hell the tangled web we weave lmao
 
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5 oh hell the tangled web we weave lmao
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Theres 6 each in 1 or 2 of them....they arent even getting repotted.... im just gonna cut males and reveg for clones
 
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