Captain's Log: Dispatches from Planet Milson

Milson · Apr 17, 2021

I want to give another update on Skunk #1...the high is plenty powerful. It's not as overwhelming as my strongest but it's plenty strong and definitely not weaker than your average "modern" strain to my subjective view. I will do tlc soon but just wanted to throw that out there.

I definitely prefer haze, mind. That high just builds and builds and lasts for ages. Honestly not as functional as i hoped but once my work day is done that stuff is just incredible. No tiredness nor edginess. It just sits and dissipates VERY slowly, while building with every hit. Like an elevator and you pick your floor....It's just the down button is broken.

Kanzeon · Apr 17, 2021

So I just thought of something in regards to Skunk beans not being skunky-smelling.

How much of that do you think has to do with modern growers focusing more on terpene production than thiols? Maybe supplementing inorganic sulfates in a bacteria and enzyme-rich growing environment could be the key to unlocking skunky smells?

Manipulation of thiol contents in plants - PubMed

As sulfur constitutes one of the macronutrients necessary for the plant life cycle, sulfur uptake and assimilation in higher plants is one of the crucial factors determining plant growth and vigour, crop yield and even resistance to pests and stresses. Inorganic sulfate is mostly taken up as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Milson · Apr 17, 2021

Kanzeon said:
So I just thought of something in regards to Skunk beans not being skunky-smelling.

How much of that do you think has to do with modern growers focusing more on terpene production than thiols? Maybe supplementing inorganic sulfates in a bacteria and enzyme-rich growing environment could be the key to unlocking skunky smells?

Manipulation of thiol contents in plants - PubMed

As sulfur constitutes one of the macronutrients necessary for the plant life cycle, sulfur uptake and assimilation in higher plants is one of the crucial factors determining plant growth and vigour, crop yield and even resistance to pests and stresses. Inorganic sulfate is mostly taken up as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I have no idea, but you have my attention!

Moe.Red · Apr 17, 2021

Kanzeon said:
So I just thought of something in regards to Skunk beans not being skunky-smelling.

How much of that do you think has to do with modern growers focusing more on terpene production than thiols? Maybe supplementing inorganic sulfates in a bacteria and enzyme-rich growing environment could be the key to unlocking skunky smells?

Manipulation of thiol contents in plants - PubMed

As sulfur constitutes one of the macronutrients necessary for the plant life cycle, sulfur uptake and assimilation in higher plants is one of the crucial factors determining plant growth and vigour, crop yield and even resistance to pests and stresses. Inorganic sulfate is mostly taken up as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So I read this to figure out where you were pointing

Thiols and Sulfides

chem.libretexts.org

Why inorganic sulfates?

How does the plant process raw materials into skunk?

Kanzeon · Apr 17, 2021

From the first link:

"Inorganic sulfate is mostly taken up as sulfate from the soil through the root system or to a lesser extent as volatile sulfur compounds from the air. In a cascade of enzymatic steps inorganic sulfur is converted to the nutritionally important sulfur-containing amino acids cysteine and methionine"

Purely from a technical standpoint, I doubt that terpenes alone create the smell of skunk. Also purely from a technical standpoint, there's a reason that big fan leaves smell and it's not terpenes.

Anecdotally, the reason that Vidalia onions contain less "bite" is the low concentration of sulfur in the soils there. Maybe there's a similar mechanism in cannabis that's been lost/overlooked in the quest to maximize THC and terps?

Milson · Apr 18, 2021

Happy sunday, guess I'll be a cliche....but this seems lifestyle adjacent and definitely in my wheelhouse.

Milson · Apr 19, 2021

Pulled the dryest Panama bud off of a branch for a taste.

The lime is just ridiculous already.

But who cares, it's the high you are interested in, right?

It's what it says on the tin: all in the head, deep sativa. By deep i mean the effect sits very completely on my consciousness so that i can't see my way around it very easily. If you are just sitting it might not strike you that you're pretty high but then you're walking and you're like wow look at my hands swing in and out of the corner of my vision man they always do that huh woah watch where you're going hoo boy what the dog oh man am i moving my eyes REALLY FAST

Kind of feeling.

Long lasting buzz for sure. I will enjoy her when she is done drying and into the cure. Definitely green pheno in all ways. No body, unlike haze. Not great for functional work weed but honestly i have pulled back from that during the day and it has been a nice changeup.

Once the buzz settles in i can do some work...the initial is more adventure weed though.

Milson · Apr 22, 2021

Milson said:
Pulled the dryest Panama bud off of a branch for a taste.

The lime is just ridiculous already.

But who cares, it's the high you are interested in, right?

It's what it says on the tin: all in the head, deep sativa. By deep i mean the effect sits very completely on my consciousness so that i can't see my way around it very easily. If you are just sitting it might not strike you that you're pretty high but then you're walking and you're like wow look at my hands swing in and out of the corner of my vision man they always do that huh woah watch where you're going hoo boy what the dog oh man am i moving my eyes REALLY FAST

Kind of feeling.

Long lasting buzz for sure. I will enjoy her when she is done drying and into the cure. Definitely green pheno in all ways. No body, unlike haze. Not great for functional work weed but honestly i have pulled back from that during the day and it has been a nice changeup.

Once the buzz settles in i can do some work...the initial is more adventure weed though.

Few days later and yeah this Panama is intense in high quantities. Very high ceiling. Can actually make me uncomfortable and get a little racy at super high levels (like 4 bowls in 20 min or something).

Mixed with haze in the grinder, it's really, really good already and getting better. And the yield was enormous for me.

Happy Milson.

Also I have one girl already flowering from P Haze and one boy who is being isolated for pollen collection to pollinate Killer A5 Haze for the A5 Haze match because lol that could be cool if I like both plants?

Brendanpre · Apr 23, 2021

I really enjoy good strong Sativa's! Maybe not for nighttime smoke, but any other time, bring it on!

Moe.Red · Apr 25, 2021

Hey Milson,

I'm trimming up a harvest all day today. What's the deep thought for the day to keep my mind doing something other than click click click "Alexa skip."

This is mostly Greenhouse White Widow from the UV test thread. She'll be over a pound, and I'm trying to remember why I grow plants so damn big.

Milson · Apr 25, 2021

Moe.Red said:
Hey Milson,

I'm trimming up a harvest all day today. What's the deep thought for the day to keep my mind doing something other than click click click "Alexa skip."

This is mostly Greenhouse White Widow from the UV test thread. She'll be over a pound, and I'm trying to remember why I grow plants so damn big.

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Deep thought for the day: Japan's diversity of written scripts, especially both phonetic and symbolic, give japanese speakers an inherent difference w.r.t. the way they perceive the movement between their feelings/thoughts and language.

I think the non-linearity of kanji and Chinese written language w.r.t. understanding meaning of the symbols on a surface is not incidental to the difference in culturally inherited psychology. In particular, translating meaning more explicitly via a visual field as compared to the inherently linear nature of phonetic scripts (because utterances take place over linear time as opposed to the timelessness of script....but western scripts don't really use this) seems to me a sort of gathering as opposed to a singular hose of meaning.

I've been pondering this vis a vis eastern vs western religions.

I think pot is better for the field than a hose.

Here's a sonnet I wrote recently. I was doing some geometry exercises in the Brilliant app before I got the first quatrain rolling.

Milson · Apr 26, 2021

It's going to be over 80 degrees F tomorrow and your resident sentient green ball is pumped. Sativa walking time!

Also starting a group for Dialectic Based Therapy today in an effort to build up more tools for dealing with mopey milson time or its cousin, spaced out milson who is just surviving instead of thriving.

Sorry about lack of pics lately. Been dealing with bugs and so things have been a bit ugly.

Moe.Red · Apr 26, 2021

Milson said:
It's going to be over 80 degrees F tomorrow and your resident sentient green ball is pumped. Sativa walking time!

Also starting a group for Dialectic Based Therapy today in an effort to build up more tools for dealing with mopey milson time or its cousin, spaced out milson who is just surviving instead of thriving.

Sorry about lack of pics lately. Been dealing with bugs and so things have been a bit ugly.

Been thinking you have been gone a lot lately. Wish there were some way to help. Seems like all the smartest people in the world have some sort of extra mind space baggage to deal with. Your brain is just too big for your skull and wants out.

Milson · Apr 26, 2021

Moe.Red said:
Been thinking you have been gone a lot lately. Wish there were some way to help. Seems like all the smartest people in the world have some sort of extra mind space baggage to deal with. Your brain is just too big for your skull and wants out.

Thanks man. This is really a proactive step on my part that is in part because it makes my wife happy. I'm still feeling much less shitty than I did a year or two ago, when I was a fucking mess (liver angry from drinking, occasionally pissing myself after passing out level mess....still no jail or anything super consequential though!).

I also think talking about managing mental health proactively is good because there is still a lot of stigma.

Brendanpre · Apr 26, 2021

Milson said:
I also think talking about managing mental health proactively is good because there is still a lot of stigma.

Absolutely! Too many people won't admit they are suffering because of this, they just try and tough it out on their own, and generally speaking, that does more harm than good...

We all have our demons, we all go through dark times, sometimes we need a bit of help and support, it doesn't have to mean we are weak or defective, it just means we need some help and support.

And talking from experience, being proactive about it does help a lot, it's easier to get a handle on things earlier, rather than later when all those negative patterns have taken hold and turned into habit almost.

Milson · May 2, 2021

An update from Milson:

Turns out I have two girls after all for P Haze! Everyone is stretching like mad! Seriously my tent is a jungle and I am super cropping like mad but these sativa's just do not care. It's madness. Thankfully despite suboptimal conditions, everyone seems to be flowering okay. Hopefully I can get things pic worthy soon.

I also have some new friends I am really excited about showing off soon! They are currently in recovery from some....frustrations, but I think they should be good to go by next weekend.

I have cut out pre 5pm smoking during the week as my back has been better managed and the additional clarity is appreciated at the moment. I LOVE the selection of weed I have at the moment. Skunk, widow, hungry Haze, fussy Haze, Panama a, and Panama b. Don't notice much of a difference between the panama phenos yet they are great. Very powerful, crazy, dreamy sativa. You can find zones of functionality but it can definitely get super not functional.

I'm also enjoying my Dialectical Behavioral Therapy group....talking about tools for emotion identification (I'm good at) and regulation (lol do drugs count) and it has been very good for me.

MrToad · May 3, 2021

Milson

I've had the same issue to when making seeds..Figured one blast of pollen would be enough resulting in fewer beans than I'd hoped for..

As such, now I tend to hit the girls several times over the span of a few days to improve the odds..

:)

Milson said:
So. An update. Lest anyone ever accuse me of being a serious person hahahaha

Bad news/good news.....

So the branch I took from fussy haze yielded good, mature seeds (yay!) but not as many as I hoped (booo)....this may have been partially exacerbated by me putting the branches for her and hungry haze in the same box to dry and then several/many seeds falling out lmao. But obviously I need to get better with my technique in terms of pollinating. Lesson learned.

The good news is this next batch of seeds from Fussy Haze now has an origin story for how they got all mixed up! And I have five seeds with taproots popped and in jiffy pellets :-)

Who's the dad? Gonna have to guess..... so basically it's just a chucking expedition. Which I am finding fun tbh. I will be more careful with the seeds from Skunk and Panama.

In other news, I will not be breeding with hungry haze because the high is fine but not one I want to explore further. A lot of body to it actually. I will get around to doing TLC on her and FH hopefully tonight. I am expecting to see a higher ratio of CBG:THC in Hungry Haze than Fussy Haze based on my experience with the smoke. Let's see if my intuition has any connection to reality! Where does CBC come in? Idk! Part of me wants to hedge and say it might be a higher ratio of CBC:THC.....so if that ends up being in the case I will be wrong in an "i knew it was the other one!" way i.e. wrong.

They are both in jars as of last night. Bit quick on the dry but meh. No mold or anything and I think a cure will end up with both having interesting, nuanced profiles....

chemistry · May 11, 2021

How the new friends getting on Mils, did they pop?

Milson · May 18, 2021

Hey y'all,

So, an update. After a confluence of circumstances that involve spider mites, switching up my medication (Lexapro), my dad's sudden changeup in mj consumption, and other personal stuff, I have pulled back a bit in my growing. Plants all look like shit in various ways.

What's still alive

Flower

Golden tiger
P.haze x 2
Panama x bangi haze

Veg

Killer A5 Haze
Ethiopian x 2
Dragon's stash
2 x my cross w fussy haze

Very sadly, some clones @Moe.Red generously shared succumbed to varieties of stress including but not limited to incompetence beyond either of our control (he did nothing wrong, they looked great...me, otoh?).

I'm probably pulling back on any pollen chucking experiments on the grounds that I don't need more chaos in my life ATM lol. This is honestly exciting because it involves work and potentially money, but I have chosen to ramp up the stress a bit in pursuit of that bc reasons.

I hope to get things perked up in the veg tent at least soon. Depending how things go I may just do some serious culling here soon and start fresh on some of my myriad beans. The killer A5 will def go to flower but idk about the others.

BudGoodman · May 18, 2021

Glad you're doing okay, Milson.
Spider mites are evil little bastards... But they can be beaten.

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