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I see. Excuse my imagination, it was fun to imagine how it might go off your pictures and description. I assume you aren't running all those bennies and the stuff that goes along with them (humics, sugar, etc.) correct? are you setup on a 4x8 table? How large is the rez? What is your target plant size with your system the way it is setup or the size with the most efficiency (I am thinking sog)? I am thinking the biggest limiting factor in your setup is the amount of space for the roots is this correct? Are you worried about anything building up in your PVC pipes over time? I remember I think it was ttystik did something with PVC pipes too but they ended up being a PITA to clean to he abandoned his project.
"this water is 24/7 running down one end of the pipe"
Are you referring to the 1 in. plastic inlets typically found on EF tables? Are the drains the same 1 in. drains typically found on EF tables (i.e. botanicare ) Are you running the water across the 4 ft. cross section of the 4x8 or across the 8 ft. section?
"so the water rises until it hits the second overflow. "
Is the second overflow stacked/mounted on top of the first overflow?
What is your plan on piping in fresh air? How will you keep the co2 from combining into your fresh air?
How many gallons of water do you have circulating during a run?
Seems like a cool all around system. How do you like it against your lava rocks compared at the same time period? Would you mind explaining how your lava rock setup was ran? Its always interesting to hear about new setups, helps stir the creative imagination.
Thanks for taking some time to read the questions and props to you for some great ingenuity and great effort.
Hey cap plants look great man. Have you been using your new mix in flower yet? I'm three weeks in flower with a full jacks grow and plants are happy as hell. Cannot thank everyone in this thread enough.
Forgive me if this has been covered, I dropped off a few pages back and havent caught up. What ridiculously cheap pH adj products do you guys use?
Advanced Nutrients up and down. Strong stuff. Only thing they ever got right.
x2. I've found with RO & jacks I don't even need it. With CES I was using bottles of the GH line until I switched to Advanced. I'd also imagine the Advanced line would kill any bug you sprayed it on. Leaves a weird residue on my fingers if I forget to wear gloves.
I have not read the 57 pages of this thread as my time is a bit limited. I apologize as I am sure you have answered this question already, but has anyone tested your products in a Under Current system yet?
I would be interested in testing these nutrients as well as the root inoculates.
We have done product testing professionally since 2005 and have a lab on-site. The only testing we do not do locally ourselves is some of the advanced analysis test which we send off for testing.
We do our own tissue sampling as well as culture test for bacteria/fungi.
Always looking for new products!
Cheers!
Sulfuric acid for pH down
1) Get some on ebay its cheap
2) get a gallon of distilled water.
3) pour out a cup.
4) add carefully one cup of sulfuric acid. WEAR GOGGLE AND GLOVES
5) It gets warm. DOnt panic. let it cool.
6) VOILA you now have a lifetime supply of ph down. very strong.
Do you by chance know the shelf life of PH down using this method?
If you get a couple more ingredients, this formula is killing it for me in veg. Haven't seen healthier plants in a loooong time.
jacks hydro: 2 grams/gal
Cal nit: 3 grams/gal
MKP (monopotassium phosphate)- .16 grams/gal
Potassium sulfate (K2SO4)- .5 grams/gal
MOST- .1 grams/gal
CaCl2 (98% off ebay)- .07 grams/gal
epsom salt- .7 grams/ gal
2 part formula
1) hydro, epsom, MKP, K2SO4, MOST in one mix. add to 1 gallon of warm water and mix well.
2) cano3 and cacl2 in the other. add to 1 gal of warm water and mix well.
fill res with RO water.
add 1 first. wait until ppms equalize
add 2
done.
I run this mix at 75% strength and it is perfection.
Some raw salts came in to today.
My new bloom formula is:
mono potassium phosphate @ 0.15 grams/ gal
Potassium sulfate @ 0.16 grams / gal
Jacks hydro @ 3 grams / gal
Jacks MOST @ 0.1 grams / gal (might go to 0.2)
Epsom @ 0.6 grams/ gal
Cal Nitrate @ 2.7 grams per gallon
CaCl2 @ 0.1 grams / gal
this gives me 2.0 EC exactly. This is my peak formula, which I will dilute depending on what week I am in.
The elemental ppms are as follows:
N: 150
P:50
K:200
Ca: 138
Mg: 66
S: 76
The ratios:
N:P:K = 3:1:4 exactly
K:Ca:Mg = 3:2:1 ALMOST exactly.
These are the ratios Cavadge was using.
We will see what the results are.
Current system: custom ebb/flo.
Sulfuric acid for pH down
I don't use ml per gallon. I use grams/gal. In those two posts that you quoted I state exactly what I am using for veg and bloom. Hope that helps.
**If you get a couple more ingredients, this formula is killing it for me in veg. Haven't seen healthier plants in a loooong time.
jacks hydro: 2 grams/gal
Cal nit: 3 grams/gal
MKP (monopotassium phosphate)- .16 grams/gal
Potassium sulfate (K2SO4)- .5 grams/gal
MOST- .1 grams/gal
CaCl2 (98% off ebay)- .07 grams/gal
epsom salt- .7 grams/ gal
****2 part formula
1) hydro, epsom, MKP, K2SO4, MOST in one mix. add to 1 gallon of warm water and mix well.
2) cano3 and cacl2 in the other. add to 1 gal of warm water and mix well.
fill res with RO water.
add 1 first. wait until ppms equalize
add 2
done.
I run this mix at 75% strength and it is perfection.
Cap: Could you take some pics, or perhaps some drawings of your setup? I currently use rockwool w/ drain to waste feeding every other day. Very good system, but rockwool is still very expensive, and sometimes hard to get. If Jacks is working great in your system I might convert mine.
Just wanted to say that I'm using Jack's at the 3,2,1 ratio and the results are outstanding. The money I save using Jack's allows me to afford a two supplements I really like, H&G's Drip clean and Hygrozyme.
I used a plastic 1 gallon distilled water fromteh grocery store. POured out a cup ful and added the sulfuric.
It is really strong. 10 mL to take down my system .5 in 130 gallons. I use exactly one drop in one gallon with my RO and it comes out to around 5.5 when I handwater flush.
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