mikeross
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What Silica product are you using and how much per gallon? What week do you cut out the Silica? Thanks!
Adding some silicic acid will definitely help as well I’ve seen how much it helps first hand
What Silica product are you using and how much per gallon? What week do you cut out the Silica? Thanks!
Haha damn looks like I’m the one now who’s not reading the thread before I post in it. LOLIt's all NH4 not N03. Think he is in coco. Was trying to look at the ingredients but they dont list it.
yes 100% agree with everything you stated.
Silicic acid is great for foliar applications because of its availability but if your using it in a fertilizer any potassium silicate product is totally fine.What Silica product are you using and how much per gallon? What week do you cut out the Silica? Thanks!
Haha damn looks like I’m the one now who’s not reading the thread before I post in it. LOL
Idk how I missed that it’s 100% ammonium. Fail
Glad there’s more knowledgeable people around here than me. :)
@mikeross It seems fine but I have never ran N that high in flower. I usually max out about 110. Not to say it won't be good or work just have never gone that high. Everything else seems good.
As mentioned... I'm clueless about nutrient ratios but gotta start somewhere. The guys running those ratios are all running 100% Canna Coco. I did some research and will quote the following from two different sources:
" The microflora living in coco requires nitrogen and removes it from the coir in a process called nitrogen drawdown. To balance this drawdown, a coco-specific base nutrient should have a higher nitrogen percentage than a base for soil and hydro."
" While the lignin increases microorganism growth in coir, which is beneficial, those microorganisms require nitrogen. While natural coir does have a small amount of nitrogen, it will not be enough to create an ideal environment for growth. Your nutrient base should also include more nitrogen than you would with traditional soil or hydroponics."
I also came across the ratios for Canna's base nutrients and Nitrogen is sitting @ 185 which is way way higher than any other line I've seen.
All you need to worry about when running coco is a little bit higher Ca & Mg to account for the media holding on to it & add 50ppm of K for the amount of potassium the media breaking down provides.As mentioned... I'm clueless about nutrient ratios but gotta start somewhere. The guys running those ratios are all running 100% Canna Coco. I did some research and will quote the following from two different sources:
" The microflora living in coco requires nitrogen and removes it from the coir in a process called nitrogen drawdown. To balance this drawdown, a coco-specific base nutrient should have a higher nitrogen percentage than a base for soil and hydro."
" While the lignin increases microorganism growth in coir, which is beneficial, those microorganisms require nitrogen. While natural coir does have a small amount of nitrogen, it will not be enough to create an ideal environment for growth. Your nutrient base should also include more nitrogen than you would with traditional soil or hydroponics."
I also came across the ratios for Canna's base nutrients and Nitrogen is sitting @ 185 which is way way higher than any other line I've seen.
As mentioned... I'm clueless about nutrient ratios but gotta start somewhere. The guys running those ratios are all running 100% Canna Coco. I did some research and will quote the following from two different sources:
" The microflora living in coco requires nitrogen and removes it from the coir in a process called nitrogen drawdown. To balance this drawdown, a coco-specific base nutrient should have a higher nitrogen percentage than a base for soil and hydro."
" While the lignin increases microorganism growth in coir, which is beneficial, those microorganisms require nitrogen. While natural coir does have a small amount of nitrogen, it will not be enough to create an ideal environment for growth. Your nutrient base should also include more nitrogen than you would with traditional soil or hydroponics."
I also came across the ratios for Canna's base nutrients and Nitrogen is sitting @ 185 which is way way higher than any other line I've seen.
if your using it in a fertilizer any potassium silicate product is totally fine.
I Dont suppose youve got the cannacoco a/b breakdown
Potassium/calcium is a see-saw that has to be in balance.
The cation exchange with coco has residual K and potassium silicate can lock out calcium. Further, the same high potassium can lock out calcium with Jack's 5-12-26/cal nit. You are best to use an alternate silica source in either scenario.
https://medteknutrients.com.au/hydroponic-coir-substrate-science/
Alternate sources would be rice hulls (charred for quicker availability), stabilized silicic acid or using potassium silicate as a foliar versus drench.
I don't have it but saw it on a youtube video discussing Jack's. Click this link and forward to the 30:05 mark and you will see Canna's breakdown.
View attachment 1034107
Managed to grab a screenshot if anyone wants itHope it's clear enough if you zoom in
I've just noticed the canna coco hasn't got any micros in bar 1, So which additive is it that gives that in the canna range?. I use kelp cold press and fish shit as well as calmag along side, but does this mean I'm lacking in them or is it that they are assuming the coco contains enough micros itself?
I like Jack's 3.6/Cal nit 2.4 the best.
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