ChemWreck & Larry OG x Red Leb

SkunkDoctor · Apr 17, 2012

D-Bud said:
I've been doing it for years..usually gives ya a nice little hand full of beans and is a great way to save a strain you maybe forgot to, uhem, clone.. doh. You can even mix a bit of flour into the pollen to make a small amount go further.. then just dip a tiny paint brush into it and paint the buds.. Now collecting the pollen, that's the trick to master. some drop a male into a box right when pollen sacs start to sag, then just empty the box.

later tatot

Mixing 1/4 pollen to 3/4 flour has made my pollen last and still work just as good. I'm sure u could mix it 1/10 if u had to and it still would do good. Each piece of pollen from what i know is extremely small and only a small percentage actually gets used. not even 1%. ~ the doc

Dodge · Apr 17, 2012

Thanks for that info Doc!! Once you get into this you realize that pollen is just important as the beans themselves. I am surprised that there is not some sort of a "trader's market" for pollen.

Well it turns out that the three undecided plants all were female. So I got eight females out of eleven. That is beyond lucky. I'm stoked about that for sure. The ChemWreck had alot of females.

I picked out the male that I am going to try to collect pollen from. I culled two males and my natural reaction was to pick the tallest of the two. After some thought and a closer inspection I decided not to just go with the tallest male. The one I chose was shorter, but developed much faster than all the others and has a stouter, more vigorous vibe.... This male was Larry OG x Red Leb. So I will inseminate some ChemWreck buds and some Larry OG x Red Leb buds. Is it good to keep inbreeding? Like if I just keep taking the best female and crossing it with stored pollen from the same healthy stout male from the same strain... Hmmmmmnnn I guess what this is all about, and that's how dank but get's to be dank. Here are some shot of the Larry Leb male:

D-Bud · Apr 18, 2012

Very nice male there Dodge.. here is something to look for that I think adds potency when looking thru males.. when the pollen sac's begin to form and swell up.. look at them through a scope and see if you have actual trichomes on the sac's themselves.. this is a trick a good breeder friend told me to look for and I feel he was right. thanks for that DV.
This Chemwreck for me through out some huge girls if you find the chemdog d pheno.. One thing I liked about using
this cross with my AK47 is, I can flip them at 2wks old and still get a 3ft plant in the end..

Your gonna have some unique stuff with this Larry Leb cross you have.. I might of open pollinated with all 3 males giving me several phenos' to go through..just another thought for a diff way to do things.. some big breeders use multiple males and swear by it too... who knows right.. lol. thanks for sharing what your up to man..

Dodge · Apr 18, 2012

Wow that is some good info.. kinda sounds like I could have given the males more time to develop before making my selection. The thing is that I have only a limited personal grow space and don't have a separate space to raise males. I have not raised many males and really have no idea of their growth stages. I would not know when they are just about to pop. I am afraid that if I have several males, I might miss something and trash the grow. I considered open pollination but I have read that it will produce way, way to many seeds.

Yeah, I guess now would be a good time to do a little research and nail down some of the recurring dominant characteristics that define chemdog d. I have a general idea but not really....... I would be pretty fuckin' ecxited if I actually found a "no shit" chemdog d pheno out of no more than five candidates. Here's to hoping.

cannarado · Apr 19, 2012

Lookin good brudah! That larryleb male is a stout f'er. Lookin fairly leb Dom. That leb has the craziest serrations on the leaves. Straight saw blades! You're going to open up some phenos with that cross. I think working your cross into f-gens could really produce something

SkunkDoctor · Apr 19, 2012

They look nice n healthy Dodge. Good Job.

Dodge · Apr 19, 2012

Thanks for checkin' the thread Cannarado. Yeah, that male is good n healthy. Decent genetics for sure. So the saw-like leaves are a charactaristic of the Red Leb, that is good to know... I can't wait to see bud color/shape/etc..... ^^^ + REP Cannarado, thank you for the beans bro!

They are looking pretty healthy... I aint breakin' any records but they aint stressed and neither am I. Have a good one Skunk!!....

Well I got up early and brewed Cap's Tea and administered just now. I have done it several times the same way. I did it by hand, only letting it sit for about fourteen hours; stirring by hand about every hour. I hit the soil with the root pack when I re potted after I determined sex..... I have administered Cap's bacterial/fungal tea from around the second week of growth. I am impressed with growth and have not had any bugs this run. The left side of the pic's are the ChemWreck and the right is the Larry Leb. Here are the shots.

Making Caps tea by hand... not the worst incarnation of organic tea, this tea is good stuff indeed!!

The ChemWreck is on the left and Larry Leb on right:

420alldaze · Apr 20, 2012

hey dodge, lookin killer, sounds like you got a killer plan for that chem pollen. hope it works out for ya. cant wait to see what ya get 42o

Dodge · Apr 20, 2012

I know dude I am starting to get excited... thanxs for checking the thread bro!

Dodge · Apr 20, 2012

Happy 420... this is another pic of the Larry OG x Red Leb male I picked. He is strong, healthy, and a fast developer....

Dodge · Apr 21, 2012

Super stoked after the 420 drop.... I got some Lemon Alien Dawg and that Lizard King OG from Golden Lion Genetics. Been wanting that Lizard King since I first saw a pic... That's whats on deck over here, along with a home made cross, I hope, ChemWreck x (Larry OG x Red Leb).

TortureKill · Apr 21, 2012

Hey Dbud, I got some Chemwreck and ChemDiesel seeds awhile back from who I thought was Muddy Paws. Who now that Im thinking may have once been BBP.. Neways, ive had them for years and have held off on starting them due to not knowing the exact lineage.. Thanks for throwing the Chem Wreck lineage out there for me. Sounds like a sick hybrid.

Great grow Dodge, everything is coming along great. Ive fallen in love with the Lemon Larry and have been playing with a few hybrids myself. Also have made BX to I will be growing out this outdoor season. Stoked for ya bro. Keep us updated.

Dodge · Apr 21, 2012

Well I shot a few pictures today before the lights came on... they are blurry, my fault. There are five ChemWreck and three Larry OG x Red Leb females. The Larry Leb females are the three on the right coming from the top down.... the grow is going well and the plants really like getting Caps tea.... temps are high seventies and RH is at 60 percent. I have to put water in the air here as it is so dry. It seems like it is alot esier to increase humidity rather than reduce it, so I'm not complaining. All is well...

Dodge · Apr 21, 2012

Ahhhhh!!! Some hermies..... Dammitt... that sux!! just found two hermies in the garden. Two of my ChemWreck have both sex flowers... one plant was the the biggest and baddest. I'm gonna pluck these first little nanners of and hope I see no more..... maybe I should just kill the hermies....

MitchyNugz · Apr 22, 2012

Looking great Dodge that sounds like such a dank ass cross LL x Red Leb damnnnnn Im jealous just typing it lol.......looks like u got a nice lil male to play aroud with as well...Do Work.....!

damnn sorry to hear about the hermies, happens to the best of us hopefully it doesen't get to bad! keep us updated bro!

Krasi · Apr 23, 2012

Hi Dodge, sorry to hear too, hermie`s are a setback, hopefully it`s just a temporary thing, they take away a lot of joy and time.
In small numbers there`s a way to work with them, but keep a sharp eye, they start at the armpits of the main stem, as it shows on ur pics, after picking these balls, they wil continue to grow on side branches, below starting budz, and in later stadium they wil even pop banana`s in the budz.

Sometimes it`s genetic weakness, that causes the plants to go hermie, somtimes it`s stress, caused by a light leak, a timer for the lights, too hot/cold, too much or not enough humidity, to much or not enough water, wrong PH, even a fan pointed on the plants can cause it.

I hoop you`ll find the cause, or the plants give up the hermie behavior, best of luck.

Dodge · Apr 24, 2012

The grow is going well and the plants are strong... I moved the light up a bit and they seem better for it.... that 1k is a shit ton of light... gotta watch bleaching.. humidity levels good and all is ok. been picking off a few nanners, such is life... I threw up some pics of both strains on other threads so not gonna re post here at this time.. later

Dodge · Apr 24, 2012

couldn't resist... here's a new shot of the garden... either the Larry OG x Red Leb buds got seeded from a herm male or they just have super huge pistils... a little more growth will tell

Krasi · Apr 25, 2012

Hi Dodge, earlier last week i cut off a smal bud from way blow the plant, yesterday i roled a splif from it, really nice blend, but i did find two seeds, if it`s ur own stash, no worries, i will not smoke the whole harvest so it`s gonna be seedpicking for me....but like you said, such is life;)

Dodge · Apr 25, 2012

I got a real camera!!!!

I got a cool new cam. Fujifilm finepix xp55. I have been wanting one for a long time and finally found the right one. It's water resistant to 16', shock, freeze, and dust proof with tons of features and video for just under two bills. So here are some photos that are not annoying to look at... I hate blurry shots, but no more of that. I invite you to take a look at my humble little pot garden:

Welcome farmers!!!

Cap's Beneficials, moderate nutes and proper RH keep these girls happy and healthy:

My fave ChemWreck (Connoisseur Genetics) pheno. She is super vigorous and bushy:

ChemWreck bud shot:

Larry OG x Red Leb (Cannarado):

Larry OG x Red Leb bud shot:

Peace

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