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caveman4.20 · Mar 12, 2013

Bomb chronic can induce these feelings as well ....

caregiverken · Mar 12, 2013

I like this thread..
.I too suffer from Anxiety and depression.:depressed:

Seamaiden said:
You'll be ok.

:D
I think so too.

I have had some pretty bad Anxiety attacks. I wouldnt call them "panic atacks" (had those from Crack back in the day)
I didnt even realize what they were for a while..The doc gave me Zoloft...it helped.
Wrecked my sex drive and made me have strange dreams.and made me more depressed

That was a couple years ago..

.Then We tryed Cannabis for my wifes Fibro.
Of course I had to try some for my head...and a couple weeks later I was off that zolft crap
Now Im up to 15 joints a day...helps keep the attacks away(damn tolerance level!!!)
And My life is pretty good now :) (got an oil vape pen comming in the mail)

I think Taking Care of the Plants Helps me alot too..

Im Praying for Ya too. Squiggly :)
Dont let them give you Zoloft!!

dirk d · Mar 12, 2013

caregiverken said:
I like this thread..
.I too suffer from Anxiety and depression.:depressed:

And My life is pretty good now :)

My life is gooood too lol

Thatgirl · Mar 12, 2013

Yeah xanax makes me feel super drugged too, but I never tried taking just a bit of one before, didn't understand moderation back then LOL! Do you get too drugged feeling even if you just take 1/4 of a xanax? Thats what I do with my ativan, I start with 1/4 (.25 mg) usually thats enough to take the edge off. I don't know anything about pills, but maybe the ativans are a bit milder or something?

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

Smoked a bowl of cherry pie last night and it made me wig.

Looks like the herb is out the door for awhile until I can get a script for something.

That's a sentence I never thought I'd type.

I'm super pro-weed and super anti-psych drugs.

Ugh. Sometimes ya gotta admit defeat, though.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

midwestdensies said:
Squiggs have you ever thought about the stress of just growing in a non med state. I used to be shall we say fairly hardcore in the midwest just a runner and grower. It was rough man took a toll on my brain and the shit ive seen is either wow or fucked up. Then you add school, life, gf, just stress in general. Ive smoked on and off for years also but real stress cant be duplicated

The growing stress would have to be super like in my subconscious if it was a cause. Its not something I sit and worry about at end. I feel like I take the proper precautions and I just live my life.

I feel like obsessing over shit like that is an easy way to get caught.

I think it's more just what you said, school/life in general. It never hit me till I started discussing this but I've been going non-stop since January 2006. This spring break is my first break for more than a slightly extended weekend (because I took vacation time from work to coincide with it).

I am really wishing I was scheduled to work right now as I think it might help me through this.

That's probably dumb, though.

I'm a grin and bear it guy--and that might be what got me into this mess in the first place.

GI JO · Mar 12, 2013

A visit to the ER will get you an ECG and bloodwork for troponin level, although I'm not sure what the cost would be where you are. Might give you some peace of mind tho.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

Not doing well right now.

I think I've really piled onto my anxiety here by quitting the cigs. I really have come to believe that most of my freaking out is coming from withdrawal.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

GI JO said:
A visit to the ER will get you an ECG and bloodwork for troponin level, although I'm not sure what the cost would be where you are. Might give you some peace of mind tho.

Yeah I know that. The cost will be an arm and seven legs without insurance. I have to wait, unfortunately.

delae632 · Mar 12, 2013

I kept smoking cigs til I had something from the doc to help out. I hate to tell someone to smoke but it might not be a bad idea til you get sorted out...or you could just go outside and take some nice deep breaths. ;)

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

delae632 said:
I kept smoking cigs til I had something from the doc to help out. I hate to tell someone to smoke but it might not be a bad idea til you get sorted out...or you could just go outside and take some nice deep breaths. ;)

I'm at such a loss at this point dude I don't know what to do.

I have xanax but I don't know if my issue is anxiety. I THINK so but do I really want to self-medicate before getting checked out? My luck it actually would be a heart issue and I'd exacerbate it with the xanax, lol.

I think I will end up doing exactly that tonight if this continues, but it's not something that I'd normally do. I have called an uncle in a last ditch effort to get him to write me a script/give his opinion--but I don't think that will pan out as I'm sure he'd have to assess me and see me personally to do so ethically (he's written scripts for antibiotics in the past but most anxiety meds are considered narcotics).

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

Thatgirl said:
Yeah xanax makes me feel super drugged too, but I never tried taking just a bit of one before, didn't understand moderation back then LOL! Do you get too drugged feeling even if you just take 1/4 of a xanax? Thats what I do with my ativan, I start with 1/4 (.25 mg) usually thats enough to take the edge off. I don't know anything about pills, but maybe the ativans are a bit milder or something?

Ativan in low doses is MUCH milder than xanax.

In higher doses ativan takes over as the stronger drug.

Thatgirl · Mar 12, 2013

2 separate visits to the ER, one EKG, a bag of fluids, and a bunch of meds later, my total cost was $2500. Probably different in different areas, but it shouldn't be so outrageous that you can't get in. At the very least go to a general practitioner, and at the most very least, whoever you know that might have some ativans to kick down or sell.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

Thatgirl said:
2 separate visits to the ER, one EKG, a bag of fluids, and a bunch of meds later, my total cost was $2500. Probably different in different areas, but it shouldn't be so outrageous that you can't get in. At the very least go to a general practitioner, and at the most very least, whoever you know that might have some ativans to kick down or sell.

My girl has some xanax, gonna give that a go tonight.

I've made an appointment with the campus health center tomorrow morning but I don't know if they are able to write prescriptions. I'm hoping they can.

I really do want to avoid the ER as I feel like I'm not in immediate danger physically even if my mind is going batshit.

caregiverken · Mar 12, 2013

dirk d said:
My life is gooood too lol

Thanks for that Dirk! :woot: Made me smile a few times today thinking about that.
Yeah..My life sucks :depressed: ..
But, I am grateful for everything and I cant complain one bit, because I know it could be much worse.
At least things have been getting better !
And I have this Plant and you guys...Thats something that makes me happy! :happy:

dextr0 · Mar 12, 2013

Ahh I hope y'all b carefull w the benzos; three months are considered long term use and the withdrawal effects CAN last years.
Good luck squigg; kno that a lot of us are right there w you.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

Thatgirl said:
2 separate visits to the ER, one EKG, a bag of fluids, and a bunch of meds later, my total cost was $2500. Probably different in different areas, but it shouldn't be so outrageous that you can't get in. At the very least go to a general practitioner, and at the most very least, whoever you know that might have some ativans to kick down or sell.

Also did want to say thanks for sharing this.

Every little thing I can figure out makes me that much less nervous. Now I know I can go to the ER in an emergency without breaking the bank and that is good to know ahead of medicating myself as I plan to.

The scare as far as my cardiovascular health is mostly over in my brain. I've been exercising since Friday and haven't experience any recurrence of pain which you would definitely expect if I was in immediate danger of a heart attack or tachycardia.

I did end up with a pretty god damn fast heartbeat last night after smoking a bowl of chron--about 120-130 BPM which is fucking high for a dude of 5'9" @ 140 pounds and in fairly well-kept physical condition (despite the cigarettes).

My resting BPM is around 70.

I think I will be sticking to indicas from now on if smoking at all. I'm gonna back off entirely until my mental state has stabilized.

If a benzo is able to control my feelings of anxiety and I can smoke with that then I will do so--if I have issues I may give it some time (maybe till next harvest--I'm in veg now).

If still problem then, well shit guys I might have to pack it in and just be honest with myself.

For now, though, one day (or minute in reality) at a time.

squiggly · Mar 12, 2013

dextr0 said:
Ahh I hope y'all b carefull w the benzos; three months are considered long term use and the withdrawal effects CAN last years.
Good luck squigg; kno that a lot of us are right there w you.

I'm hoping to be able to control this with a very low dose on an "as needed" basis.

I really would prefer not to take drugs every day of my life.

If I have to I have to.

I prefer the benzos to SSRI's in my opinion--and there really isn't much else out there to treat this kinda crap.

caregiverken · Mar 12, 2013

squiggly said:
For now, though, one day (or minute in reality) at a time.

Real good thinking right there ^^

dextr0 · Mar 12, 2013

squiggly said:
I'm hoping to be able to control this with a very low dose on an "as needed" basis.

I really would prefer not to take drugs every day of my life.

If I have to I have to.

I prefer the benzos to SSRI's in my opinion--and there really isn't much else out there to treat this kinda crap.

Right now I'm trying benedryl....just got out of a Texas psych hospital having to deal w a lot of different issues. They refused to give me any benzos because of my past substance abuse history...something to think of fwiw.

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