Coco and Athena! Never look Back

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Hey 👋 guys!! I thought I’d post a thread on my success with coco as in the beginning I was very new to. I ran several lines of water based nutrients from GH, Botanicare, Canna, advanced nutrients, house and garden, and even emerald harvest. But none of these came close to the overall structure and smoke of each plant 🌱 after running Athena Salt based nutrients.

With Athena I have seen my grow go from pretty great to phenomenal in just a couple weeks. All the starters, clones I take never turn yellow now, and explode when they are transplanted into coco with Athena on board!

I mix all my nutrients with the new innovative “Aeromixer” pumps worth checking into Bc they are night and day difference when it comes to Feed .

Im in the process of setting up a automated drip irrigation system powered by Dab pump and Dosatron as I hand feed all my girls at the moment. Haven’t gotten that far yet plumbing wise as it’s going to need a little engineering on my end before it’s concrete.
I’m not a plumber by any degree but I know a little as most of us do to get by.

Im thinking on doing ball valves for manual running with dosatron but solenoids have their perks just not familiar with that stuff yet so any feedback would be helpful.

Can send pics to any of you willing to help the cause before I have to shell out money for a legit plumber or irrigation specialist.

But definitely change your nutrient line to Athena and give it a run and see the 🤯 go off like why you didn’t do this before ! I will hook you up anyone with my personal rep at Athena, amazing service and quality to stand behind. I will never look back!!
 
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Hi just wondering what were your EC's and PH since seedling, Veg and Bloom. How many times you did water in a day all with nuts or a few just water ?.

I'm running by now Floraflex that is similar to Athena but only 1 grow changed from soil with Biobizz a total mess to Coco looks more in control in my experience.

Thanks
 
Aqua Man

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So what in Athena is the difference? I see nothing in thier line that differs from many others.

Clones yellow from to much light it has nothing to do with nutrients. They don't even have roots to be able to take a significant amount up.

If I seem skeptical it's because I am and looking objectively. Often you see ppl attribute things to improvements that are just not the case.
 
ComfortablyNumb

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You're going to need some serious evidence to get me away from living soil.
 
TheConnection

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So what in Athena is the difference? I see nothing in thier line that differs from many others.

Clones yellow from to much light it has nothing to do with nutrients. They don't even have roots to be able to take a significant amount up.

If I seem skeptical it's because I am and looking objectively. Often you see ppl attribute things to improvements that are just not the case.

you don’t pay for water with salts and I understand “The fear of the unknown“ . However , it’s kept my plants green without burn at running
—Clones—
(First 7 days)
1mL per gallon Cleanse
1.5g per gallon Core
2.5g per gallon Bloom
1EC
5.6pH
(Day 8 to plant)
1mL per gallon Cleanse
2.2g per gallon Core
3.6g per gallon Grow
1.5EC
5.8pH

when I get to the grow I’ll snap a few pics and post em . Show y’all what’s good .
 
Aqua Man

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you don’t pay for water with salts and I understand “The fear of the unknown“ . However , it’s kept my plants green without burn at running
—Clones—
(First 7 days)
1mL per gallon Cleanse
1.5g per gallon Core
2.5g per gallon Bloom
1EC
5.6pH
(Day 8 to plant)
1mL per gallon Cleanse
2.2g per gallon Core
3.6g per gallon Grow
1.5EC
5.8pH

when I get to the grow I’ll snap a few pics and post em . Show y’all what’s good .
Ummm athena is paying for water... they are liquid nutrients.

The only unknown here is what you are claiming is different to account for the results you are claiming

What's different about it? I'm asking because I only hear an opinion and well... opinions are like..... you know what I mean.

I'm not saying you have not had great success with it. But unless you can show me the difference between this and any other nutrient I'm not buying what your selling.

Any nutrient line will keep your plant green without burning if you don't over feed them.

Asking 1 more time what's different about it before I write this one off as another overinflated opinion with no merit to it.

That's not to say the nutrients don't work.... just to say they aren't responsible for your claims
 
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Ummm athena is paying for water... they are liquid nutrients.

The only unknown here is what you are claiming is different to account for the results you are claiming

What's different about it? I'm asking because I only hear an opinion and well... opinions are like..... you know what I mean.

I'm not saying you have not had great success with it. But unless you can show me the difference between this and any other nutrient I'm not buying what your selling.

Any nutrient line will keep your plant green without burning if you don't over feed them.

Asking 1 more time what's different about it before I write this one off as another overinflated opinion with no merit to it.

That's not to say the nutrients don't work.... just to say they aren't responsible for your claims
Aqua Man, I have been running this line for some time. They have 2 lines basically, a lower cost (than average) liquid form and a dry line. I am running the dry line but to be honest once I have finished off these 25 pound bags I have, it is going to be Jacks moving forward. The Athena line is economical but Jacks is cheaper. If you really start digging into these product mixes they are all very similar in overall quantities of NGP and the micro's. The basic salt based formula has been around for a very long time.

The challenge is the sales person at the hydro store. IMO they will tell the customer whatever they can to sell products.
The post by Bill Farting is probably the best advice one can get in regards to nutrients.
 
Aqua Man

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Aqua Man, I have been running this line for some time. They have 2 lines basically, a lower cost (than average) liquid form and a dry line. I am running the dry line but to be honest once I have finished off these 25 pound bags I have, it is going to be Jacks moving forward. The Athena line is economical but Jacks is cheaper. If you really start digging into these product mixes they are all very similar in overall quantities of NGP and the micro's. The basic salt based formula has been around for a very long time.

The challenge is the sales person at the hydro store. IMO they will tell the customer whatever they can to sell products.
The post by Bill Farting is probably the best advice one can get in regards to nutrients.
Yeah I stickied it and 100% agree with everything you said... when it comes nutrients there is very little difference in the sources and mostly just the ratios. Granted some are complete with all the other goodies but short of PGRs they all work pretty much the same with some additives having some benefits That's not to say they aren't good or effective but to me the claims made here are just silly and do more harm to the nutrients reputation than help.

Just tired of all the unicorn piss in a bottle claims.
 
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Yeah I stickied it and 100% agree with everything you said... when it comes nutrients there is very little difference in the sources and mostly just the ratios. Granted some are complete with all the other goodies but short of PGRs they all work pretty much the same with some additives having some benefits That's not to say they aren't good or effective but to me the claims made here are just silly and do more harm to the nutrients reputation than help.

Just tired of all the unicorn piss in a bottle claims.
The Athena Line is manufactured by Grow More. Grow More is even cheaper than Athena.
I do believe just about every nutrient line has some part of their line that has PGR's. I believe you mentioned Heavy 16 and Fire, which makes senses because that is the most expensive part of their line up I believe. I ran a line called Floromax and I think their Organa Bud is where they put the PGR's.
 
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The Athena Line is manufactured by Grow More. Grow More is even cheaper than Athena.
I do believe just about every nutrient line has some part of their line that has PGR's. I believe you mentioned Heavy 16 and Fire, which makes senses because that is the most expensive part of their line up I believe. I ran a line called Floromax and I think their Organa Bud is where they put the PGR's.
Yep that it's... heavy 16 fire has triacontanol like green planet massive and others they cost a lot.

The heavy 16 lineup is complete as hell and the schedules they provide are pretty dam good compared to others I look at. Of you don't mind paying an arm and a leg. But that recipe by billfarthing is a perfect example of a great mix that's easily done and cheap. You could add in the PGRs if it's your cup of tea. I personally like triacontanol but I don't feel it's needed and any product you buy that contains it is going to hurt your wallet. You can toy with it separately but imo that's not at all begginer friendly and likely to cost you an attempt ot 2 to get right as such a tiny amount is required it's not just plug and play imo.
 
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I will hook you up anyone with my personal rep at Athena, amazing service and quality to stand behind. I will never look back!!

What price is your rep giving you?

I thought about switching to Athena because I ran out of my HGV flower formula. With HGV I am able to use cheap calnitrate as my "base" however Athena puts the micronutrients in their base. So for $175 X2 I just didn't see any value, now HGV isn't cheap ($240 for 25lbs) but I'm happy with the results. My buddy uses Athena and it does a good job.

If I do make a switch it will probably be to Jack's.
 
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