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HE is posting wet weights, which I never really understand people bothering to measure.
Dry weight is 10-20% of wet, so you are looking at 2-3zs per plant across a 12x20 space I think.
Calbunn can perhaps reveal dry weights and comparisons once he completes his cure.
Interesting and informative thread, guys. Thanks for the level-headed discussion - it's a relief to see these conversations not result in posturing and head butts.
Anyway, I'm particularly interested in the UV component to these lights. It makes sense that it's useful for plants to some degree, seeing as how they y'know evolved by growing under the sun. Funny how people conveniently forget that mimicking nature as closely as possible is probably what we should all be shooting for, at least at first.
I have a few not-very-scientific questions for you, Calbunn. How has your electrical bill responded to these lights as compared to others you've used? And how much heat do they throw, also in comparison? How close can you hold your hand to it? Not asking for specific measurements (unless of course you have them already written down ;D ), just wondering if throwing a 200w lamp into my 6x3x3 tent would cook plants or create a big glowing Bust Me sign for the Po. Stealth is one of my top considerations; visually, heat signature-wise, and spiking electric bill-wise as well.
Is there a question in all this? If you can't justify the expense then keep doing what your doing.I don't want to mimic nature. I want to push the plants to reasonable and healthy limits, while giving them a high performance diet of everything they need to perform to a high athletic standard. Health, overall quality, yield, medicinal effects. And I want to do this via the most effective means (light, nutes, environment, etc). Does this lamp belong in my armamentarium is the question.
And by effective I mean evidence-based, peer reviewed. Other than mfg marketing literature, anecdotal accounts are all we have to work with so far and the basic currency of these forums). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence (quoting Carl Sagan, but really a truism). I'm looking for enough evidence to justify the expense of doing a proper trial myself, haven't found it yet.
Is there a question in all this? If you can't justify the expense then keep doing what your doing.
For me I run a perpetual with 6-8 plants per week
El Cerebro: The BrainFrom what you quoted, first paragraph, last sentence. And post #58, second paragraph. I'm not doing anything particularly innovative or progressive with my grows, interested in these lights for the same reasons anybody else would be.
I truly appreciate all your documentation, but looking for more validation beyond theory and marketing materials. Questioning your claims seems par for the course, but if I'm junking up your thread please just say. A few months ago I spoke with the (super nice) guy in those indagro vids and he went on and on about lots of interesting 'science'. Intrigued as I am, having investigated this for over a year and hoping it might be a game changer, everything you've claimed and reported over that time reads like chapters from him almost verbatim (all excellent info if it actually proves to apply practically). Please refer us otherwise, but it seems you and Sol are the only ones on the whole internet providing any evidence worth examining, and it's pretty limited really. I imagine a ton of us went through a similar theoryfest with LED (many still are, for my goals glad I dropped it and moved on). I for one thank you for your time invested, but I'm simply not convinced yet.
FYI, by interval I meant adding vegged plants periodically to a constantly flowering room (rather than putting in one run of plants to completion, we share this method). I think the term perpetual is broader and refers to continual cycling of clones from moms or prior donors in veg.
From what you quoted, first paragraph, last sentence. And post #58, second paragraph. I'm not doing anything particularly innovative or progressive with my grows, interested in these lights for the same reasons anybody else would be.
I truly appreciate all your documentation, but looking for more validation beyond theory and marketing materials. Questioning your claims seems par for the course, but if I'm junking up your thread please just say. A few months ago I spoke with the (super nice) guy in those indagro vids and he went on and on about lots of interesting 'science'. Intrigued as I am, having investigated this for over a year and hoping it might be a game changer, everything you've claimed and reported over that time reads like chapters from him almost verbatim (all excellent info if it actually proves to apply practically). Please refer us otherwise, but it seems you and Sol are the only ones on the whole internet providing any evidence worth examining, and it's pretty limited really. I imagine a ton of us went through a similar theoryfest with LED (many still are, for my goals glad I dropped it and moved on). I for one thank you for your time invested, but I'm simply not convinced yet.
FYI, by interval I meant adding vegged plants periodically to a constantly flowering room (rather than putting in one run of plants to completion, we share this method). I think the term perpetual is broader and refers to continual cycling of clones from moms or prior donors in veg.
El Cerebro: The Brain
perpetual or interval, hmmm?
Semantics senor. But since your smarter then me post a thread of your own por favor and I'll 'try to' pick apart every word you put on it.
hasta luego compadre
Hi DonoHayes. I was there Saturday and it was a party the entire time. Tons of free smoke everywhere you turned, running into alot of old friends and made a few new ones too. We had a fantastic time.So would you guys finally like some real photos and proof that the inda-gro lights can destroy the competition?
I was pointed here by Cal because he heard about my growing with them. I was also at the LA Cannabis Cup and was there briefly enough to be interviewed by TheWeedlyNews with Darryl from I-G.
I am about in day 4 of week 5 with Mandala #1 from Mandala seeds(an 8 week strain that I am trying to keep on line.) and also currently have Grape God and Nebula coming up shortly after.
First off I had, in the past, done my fair share of multi-variable growing and have since streamlined into a single light(some cases extras thrown in for shits) system, of which I do not need to vent, and uses half the energy. Those facts alone made me jump on them a year ago, when I first found them here in Oregon.
Now I will be able to properly display the flower cycle and soon many more cycles worth of photos. These first few are from the first 4wks and 6ds I will have more recent, as in current, tonight:)
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