conspiracy theories [a multi topic thread]

[GRAMTOWN]

more on the rothschild family.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlOUXWQP-KM

 

[sanvanalona]

Hey 420 great thread, I am really enjoying your take on all of this. Let me start by saying I read "Behold the Pale Horse", by William Cooper, many, many years ago. Next to 1984 by George Orwell, which is completely relevant to your topics, this book opened my eyes to the conspiracies being practiced daily by those who rule. My frustrations for the multiple ways in which our people have been and were/are being decieved led me to plenty of disheartning nights. Especially after 911, just from one outsider looking in it looked like a scam immediatley. Forget the specifics about the planes, the fact that the President was reading to school children at the time of the attack, and couple that with the news immediately reporting that the perp was Osama realy were red flags of a conspiracy in my mind. Many people have elaborated on this initial thought of mine and it seems to be very true. As I have gotten older I have started to wonder a few things about these conspiracies, one I question the existence of the interenet, in why have the powers that be not completely stopped this, or just make it full of government "truths" as opposed to the various view points on any given topic. The next problem with long lasting conspiracies is human variance. I mean, it must be difficult to actually pass these ideas on to family members, just considering the variations in people and how often times children don't act like their parents, or act and do the opposite just out of spite.......i therefore, am surprised that there is not a rothschild or even a Rockefeller or a Bush talking about their families darkness and conspriacies. I have to think that would of happened by now. Please understand I am not saying conspiracies like the Bildebergs exist, they most certainly do. I just wonder how they are able to stay in tact over so many generations and how come the internet was ever even able to begin? Just my 2 cents.

 

[420king-MASSES]

the internet was and is a tool used by the dod specifically designed for the defence department there trying to shut it down google NET NEUTRALITY thats some 1984 for ya brotha/the reason these families are quiet is money and a bloodline that they have been taught is there blood rite there birth rite they have been inducted to believe that they are better then every-one else [a gr8 example would be to use the twin russian boys from the movie 2012 thy new what was up and didnt care because they were chosen to live because of money well thats an instint of art portraying life

 

[sanvanalona]

Interesting take, I must ask where does this all end? I mean it either gets into sprituality, good vs. evil, or, are we just fascinated by a practise that has been going on since time immemorial. I mean look at the eugenics, that have been pracitsed in the royal families for years. Not sure I agree about the internet though, if this evil group of people were as smart as we are giving them credit for, I see no reason to ever allow all the people the amount of info available on the web, would they (illuminati) not just live in secret the way that they suopposedly have been for centuries? It seems that in secrecey, many atrocities are much easier to handle, occur, and invent.
I think one major reason for all of these conspiracy theroies is that government has lost its honesty in concerns to war. Pre WW2, before Hitler, the government was quite open about the reasoning for war, usually for geographical or economic gain. That has been exchanged for the "moral" wars, those which have occured post WW2, have all been the reasoning of some moral authority or obligation to "protect or free" a group of people. This morale reasioning is obviously a lie, which starts a slippery slope for many more lies to follow. Could you imagine if Bush was honest about Iraq? If he had came out and said the main reasoning for going there was to procure a foothold in the weathy middle east, and to take over a very wealthy source of revenue, the outcomes may have been quite different, especially in concern to public opinion. Don't let this thinking get to you too much, which I imagine it doesn't considering you partake of the sacred herb. I try to remember that I am only one person on this earth, the best I can do is be the best individual, and educate myself on ways not to be........By the way this is my favorite topic on thcfarmer yet.....good job!

 

[true grit]

an old family friend who retired from the service said once that the aids virus was create by the military as an act of biological warfare, targeting men of the enemy. im sure there has always been a cure for it because who creates a monster without knowing how to kill it? The cure will never be released to general population because its all about economics nowadays. why give people a shot that will completely cure them when you can sell them bullshit ass pills that they think is treating them for the rest of their lives.. Also does anyone know that it is illegal for a doctor in the united states to cure a patient of cancer or aids. I heard they will snatch a doctors license in a quickness if they even thought they cured someone.

I will say that i have met people in the pharmaceutical industry (reps/chemists, etc) and they have said that they swear there is an aids vaccine. They wouldnt say what companies, but said its there- on shelves. Touch it and disappear basically. I could believe that too...

of course they coulda been cooks...but thats why i dig conspiracy theories!

 

[Sense I. Milla]

im gonna reply to each one you pointed out from last to first so here it goes/your preaching to the choir on the reefer madness

I wasn't tryin to preach, sorry if that's how my post came off.

 

[420king-MASSES]

i believe the cure is in the chinese cucumbers skin [magic johnson acquired this same cucumber when he was out there in the mid 90s] i think it was john lear with that info hes got lots of solid info check him out at living moon.com and on youtube very interesting stuff

 

[420king-MASSES]

I wasn't tryin to preach, sorry if that's how my post came off.

oh man i wasnt suggesting that at all brotha but if were gonna talk about g.m.f and weed we should be talking about the feminized seed process and how its going to effect its users -long term- nobody can even nay say against that because there have been no published studies on the matter but the implications are far reaching from degrading the potencies and plant potentials all the while bottle-necking our precious gene-pool

 

[fractal]

im gonna reply to each one you pointed out from last to first so here it goes/your preaching to the choir on the reefer madness/rothschild family is the wealthiest family in the world they themselves are the top echelon of all global conspiracies starting with the french and english war when napolean was on the thrown from one world govt to funding both sides of every single war and conflict since napolean[look it up thats a fact]/ osama bin laden big brother was and is business partners with g.w.bush papa bush is the face of carlyle groep or something like that but the company is basically owned by the house of saud[royal saudi family] 15-16 saudi ''hi-jackers'' n.w.o. proponents and depopulation enthusiasts/summarians spoke of the annuki our ancestors/the pyramids hold the key to man-kinds existence under the right front paw of the sphinx also where the giza pyramids are located on earth on mars in the exact location is the face on mars ,giza style pyramids,obelisks,a sphinx in front of the mars giza pyramids [man-kind possibly came to earth from mars either to escape catastrophe or to explore a new world and start a civilization on this rock] also at the cydonia complex all of these structures are in precise geometric intelligent design with regards to each other and egypt mimics what is seen from mars orbitters plus many many more anomolies/ iraq your on the money/911 were covering it just read from top of thread/ mk-ultra was a cia black op inwhich they controlled peoples emotions there actions and what not a manchurian candidate [obama any-one/bill clinton too] bobby kennedy was killed by a mk-ultra manchurian assassin sir hahn sir hahn [you can watch the footage and sir hahn looks like hes in another world/ more like dirty politician turned ceo turned dirtier politician and that shot to the head was a warning to the people who were bringing him and bush up on impeachment proceedings/bohemian grove is where the richest and most powerful go to for a 2 week retreat in june or july when there there they take part in rituals proclaiming their faith to 30 foot tall wooden owl with a goats skull[illuminati /roscrucian satan figure ''simulated'' ritual human sacrifices dressed up like clan members [google bohemian grove and watch the video its freaky farmers]/the freemasons theres so much with them i would have to deicate a full post to them and i will just let me get the rest of your list/ please refer to above posts with the bilderbergs its a lot more sinister then just corrupt ceo,s they are world bankers, most powerful politicians, the military industrial complex heads of state royal figures with evil plans to rule you and every one else that lives through there depopulation tactics/the bushes amasted there family wealth from nazi money they speculate the market there illuminati ,bohemian grove ,bilderberg members just to scratch the surface/majestic 12 was formed afterthe roswell incident it consists of military nsa cia dni intelligence agencies and they are deep in the alien agenda cover-ups/ project paperclip is the program that brought the nazi scientists over to the u.s.a. werner von braun [the father of american rocket science]is one of them all of jpl in the 50s,60s,70s,80s,was run by nazi from hitlers ss/ mars is also a full post but i hit on a few things earlier in this post/theres 2 theories to the fact of bases on the moon 1 is hitler and von braun were able to create anti-grav spaceships and send nazi scientists and engineers to the lunar surface to create a moon base 2nd one is aliens are keeping a watchful eye on us and use the moon as a jump off point to there planet/planets and use the moon as an out-post type deal or even it could be remanents from a past civilization [our ancestors] and they left our [man-kinds]history in a great library up there for us to someday find[which makes sense if you wanted to preserve something for eternity you would want to place it in the vacume of space/nasa is a post also there fucking wrong and evil liars/nasa picture tampering before the public had computers we are talking about all the way back from before apollo 11 mad proof on nasa and jpl websites of image tampering from smudging out towers that are miles high to over-exposing pyramids to huge basees trust me when i say theres structures on the moon shit look through a telescope with your own 2 eyes and you will see structures on the moon and nasa does tricks with there pics to blur what is up there/we never went back to the moon because we were told not to return you can listen to nasa astronaut broadcasts and hear them speaking of ''bogeys at 10:00 while orbiting the moon in 67 you tell me what was up there you got buzz aldrin saying they were followed by ufos and then neil armstrong in 94 at the presidential library says and i quote''there are unimaginable wonders[out there],for those who can remove some of truths protective layers"------since when does the truth need to have protective layers /the navy you ask why would they go and do that one word DEPOPULATION starting with the gays and iv drug users why would tptb create sarin gas or mustard gas--because they can/the gulf of tonkin was a false flag opp that was ''the galvanizing event'' that catapolted us into the vietnam conflict[one of the reasons jfk was killed] it was a lie about 4 n.vietnam subs blasted a navy boat in reality it was an isreali jet shooting a missile at an empty junkit/ im gonna hit the jfk conspiracy as soonas im done with part of a book im reading but all i gotta say is NASA is responsible/ roswell 1947 ufo plane and simple the first reports are the ones that are accurate the military fucked up because with there own words it was'' an alien space craft was recovered at'' so now is there anything else i may help you open your eyes to wake up leave the flock of sheeple

How about some paragraphs, maybe I'll actually read your posts.


Also regarding RFK it is obvious that the security guard did it. He was in the right place, and shortly after sold a .22 revolver of the exact make and model as the one used to kill RFK. The gun was stolen in a robbery from the new owner, once this fact came out.

 

[Jimmynitz]

Speaking of the JFK assassination, check out how the secret service was called off..not to mention exactly when and where they were called off. That goes TOTALLY against what is the most obvious part of their job...protect and cover the prez. There is NO logical reason for that, unless you WANT the president unprotected.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

 

[420king-MASSES]

fractal there are slashes to each new topic / you can see sir hahn sir hahn shoot rfk on file footage ,but what your really gonna want to look at his the expression on his face [blank]as hes being taken down [bum rushed]by secret service and leo and personal security mk-ultra all day

 

[420king-MASSES]

yes sir you see that happening in the zapruter film but with jfk im gonna say the puppet masters on that were a v.p. a congressman,and the higher ups in nasa if interested on my take let me know its a very plausible theory

 

[fractal]

jimmynitz - For sure that is very strange how the car slowed down and the SS guys backed off to allow a clear and open shot.

420masses - Ok I plead a bit of ignorance as I forgot did Sirhan even get a shot off with his pistol? Yes he was completely MK'd and in a trance I agree, set up as a patsy. I am telling you the security guard standing behind RFK fired the fatal shots. . . He was the one hired to be the actual killer while Sirhan was the distraction.

 

[420king-MASSES]

jimmynitz - For sure that is very strange how the car slowed down and the SS guys backed off to allow a clear and open shot.

420masses - Ok I plead a bit of ignorance as I forgot did Sirhan even get a shot off with his pistol? Yes he was completely MK'd and in a trance I agree, set up as a patsy. I am telling you the security guard standing behind RFK fired the fatal shots. . . He was the one hired to be the actual killer while Sirhan was the distraction.

please go on fractal you have peeked my interest lets here the theory and the linkage to all you no who set wheels in motion ,why shit like that brotha lay it on me:cool0044:

 

[Buddy Franklin]

Going off the current topic here... but I reckon the bible and related beliefs were created to scare and control the masses - through use of fear (the fabricated dire consequences/sins). The deadly sins were created to control violence, over consumption, crime and it has worked... Back in those days there weren't large numbers of crime prevention acts, laws or those that would willingly enforce the laws. So a book was created to brain wash the masses...

Fuck I am stoned... LMAO.

 

[Tripsick]

here we go..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YT28hCyXsLs

 

[j wizzle]

they could they chose not to act until to late with katrina/ yes they needed ''a galvanizing pearl harbor type event'' to push the american agenda through out the world ,they needed to pull that to get a foot hold in the middle east[oil chessboard],yes they needed to dd just that to get the american people behind them and remember how the tension was in the air for like a year after the eventand if you didnt agree with the war you were a terrorist come on man 9/11 was one humungus pshy-opp played on the american public ,look what happened after un warranted wire taps ,illegal prisons,torture techniques,patriot act 1 and 2 sneek n peeks interrogating children about there parents all common place since 9/11
LET ME ASK YOU ---ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP YOUR LIBERTIES FOR FREEDOM

we have been doing underhanded shit in other countries for decades, its all documented, just to get oil, etc.


we dont need to have 9/11 to have a war. we dont need the american public to have a war... our govt just decides and then pays the money to the people we want to fight.

there are so many ways for us to start a war, its not even funny.


all this crap about steel beams melting at 9000 degrees...jet fuel burns are 2500 degrees.....just stupid. the girder doesnt need to melt to fail and you dont need to have C4 to hear "explosions".

its called gravity and tons of building material falling down.



the WTC isnt going to topple over, its going to implode. just think about the physics of it all and its fairly simple to come to the conclussion that the building isnt going to just topple over...its going to implode.....20 stories came straight down on 70 stories, theres no where else for it to go but straight down...

 

[j wizzle]

if you want govt conspiracy, you will find more truth in the movie INFORMANT!....now thats some real conspiracy.

 

[fractal]

Yeah well about the steel in the towers, there was nanothermite residue found on some of the steel that is conveniently activated by the heat from the jet fuel. . . Resulting in a thermite reaction which boosts the temperatures up well past what is needed to melt reinforced and hardened steel.

 

[j wizzle]

Yeah well about the steel in the towers, there was nanothermite residue found on some of the steel that is conveniently activated by the heat from the jet fuel. . . Resulting in a thermite reaction which boosts the temperatures up well past what is needed to melt reinforced and hardened steel.

you can say there was nanothermite residue, it doesnt matter...


a plane hit a 100 story building 3/4 of the way up, its going to come down man....



who says nanothermite residue was found? for all your reports claiming there was nanothermite, i can find 10 that didnt find this residue...




wake up....the same middle eastern terrorists who have been hijacking planes and holding them hostage for the past 50 years finally thought about using one as a bomb....its not rocket science people (even though it is isnt it...):spacecraft: