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Wisher619 said:
the reason why I use botanicare is the ingredients mesh with other botanicare ingredients
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Calimagic uses calcium carbonate
you dont want that
Botanicare uses Calcium Nitrate which works with the rest of the feed
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Gotcha, thanks wish. I will deff keep that in mind. Looks like i dont need to get it anyways.
 
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I did get the buckets. Caught me just n time for the calmag too!! Thanks. Lol but i really wouldnt mind getting it if i will need it. I hear calmag all the time.
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Naw,, but thats why I asked,, every one usually has a bottle sitting around that they never quite used all of it...
 
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Jus checked the ladies and there rather dry on top like u was saying earlier. Ohh n im down to like 1/4 gal of mix soo it wiuldnt be a big deal to mix up a newbatch at 18ml w the silica blast to get it down to 5.8
 

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the reason why I use botanicare is the ingredients mesh with other botanicare ingredients
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Calimagic uses calcium carbonate
you dont want that
Botanicare uses Calcium Nitrate which works with the rest of the feed
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Ya I like to run the same stuff with the same stuff..
So are you saying that B calimag 2-0-0 and GH calimag 1-0-0
So then the equation would be that Botanicare Grow base has less N per gal of feed
the GH grow base per gal of feed.. What are the npk of botanicare and GH grow bases?
 
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Itzdwoodduhh said:
Jus checked the ladies and there rather dry on top like u was saying earlier. Ohh n im down to like 1/4 gal of mix soo it wiuldnt be a big deal to mix up a newbatch at 18ml w the silica blast to get it down to 5.8
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that is what I recommend then... But I want you to ONLY ONLY bottom feed this...So do you got something to use in place of the bucket.
Dang here is the kicker.. 18 ml in your tap is gonna throw you over the thresh hold on Ec..
This is why Ro is important. We can know exactly down to the ppm and ratios that 18 ml gives it all its macro and micro elements.. At least this is the way I understand it...
Under 18 and we take a chance on one of our elements not getting up to its needed %, such as Ca, esp if we are stuck under 12 or 13 ml per gal..
 
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Itzdwoodduhh said:
Well in that case hopefully events can set me up w somthing frm amazon or somthing. Actually i may have seen some calmag at the local garden n hardware store the other da . Ill swing by n make sure this afternoon
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If you are comfortable doing So, mine should arrive today; send me the address of a postal place or something near you and I will send 8 oz or so to hold you over till yours arrives...happy to help!
 
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I did get the buckets. Caught me just n time for the calmag too!! Thanks. Lol but i really wouldnt mind getting it if i will need it. I hear calmag all the time.
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oh you did get the buckets .. excellent..
And yes you can add a solo cup at a time till you see how much she will soak up in a setting.. I say that 1 gal will suck up from 1.5 to 2 cups for each plant. And you can play with it a lil but decide and then make it routine. Like you can feed it a solo cup 2 times a day. Instead of both Solo cups at wake up..
You may find yourself adding a couple solo cups twice a day before this epic run is over...
 
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Well time to check the girls!
 
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oh you did get the buckets .. excellent..
And yes you can add a solo cup at a time till you see how much she will soak up in a setting.. I say that 1 gal will suck up from 1.5 to 2 cups for each plant. And you can play with it a lil but decide and then make it routine. Like you can feed it a solo cup 2 times a day. Instead of both Solo cups at wake up..
You may find yourself adding a couple solo cups twice a day before this epic run is over...
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Will do, but remember i did go get ro water the other night. Lol
 
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Itzdwoodduhh said:
Jus checked the ladies and there rather dry on top like u was saying earlier. Ohh n im down to like 1/4 gal of mix soo it wiuldnt be a big deal to mix up a newbatch at 18ml w the silica blast to get it down to 5.8
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they are lookin much better
on their way to a great life
 
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There is Ca And mg in the cns17..
When we are at lower ppms then the percentage of each can dip below needed levels.. That is an assumption but I have a good feeling im right..
I could figure it out if I did the math..
Anyway, if we up the base then it automatically will up the Ca..
I how ever respectively disagree about the 1-0-0 and the 2-0-0
You would want to use 1-0-0 as You wouldn't want N toxicity from too much N.
I could see a 2-0-0 being used in my UC since i run 300 ppm. thats about 4 ml Cns17 per gal. So your 2% N might be handy esp if running c02 in low ppm dwc
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I stand corrected as you would want to use your brand so it mixes right... But if you were just picking any Calimag, I WOULD GO WITH ONE THAT had the least amount of N in it..
 
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Ya I like to run the same stuff with the same stuff..
So are you saying that B calimag 2-0-0 and GH calimag 1-0-0
So then the equation would be that Botanicare Grow base has less N per gal of feed
the GH grow base per gal of feed.. What are the npk of botanicare and GH grow bases?
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I personally dont look at the NPK value as much as the ingrediants they use

GH uses Calcium Carbonate...I dont want that in my coco...same shit that causes that hard scale around the faucet

Botanicare uses Calcium Nitrate which is easily absorbed by the plant
Mg is all the same Magnesium Sulfate

what makes the Botanicare darken "what looks like N Tox" is the iron

but I agree I would just up the feed
 
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Will do, but remember i did go get ro water the other night. Lol
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Well I figured you only got 5 gal and used it up. I would mix all 5 gal up.. We gonna be using this % from here on out. 18 ml...
We might water in down if later in flower your temps get too high..
 
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And actually amazon has a policy if you have prime and they dont get your package delivered in the window specified after you place your order they will give you a free month of prime onto your account each time it happens.
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Really? DANG. They have missed the window 3 times in 2 weeks and 5 or 6 times at least in 2 months with me. Once sending it instead of across town to Texas and ince, to New York in fact. I will have to remember that thanks!
 
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I personally dont look at the NPK value as much as the ingrediants they use

GH uses Calcium Carbonate...I dont want that in my coco...same shit that causes that hard scale around the faucet

Botanicare uses Calcium Nitrate which is easily absorbed by the plant
Mg is all the same Magnesium Sulfate

what makes the Botanicare darken "what looks like N Tox" is the iron

but I agree I would just up the feed
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Gh was the one I suffered with...
But that is a great point..
I forgot all about the diff calcium.. Same with city water too eh?
 
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Will do, but remember i did go get ro water the other night. Lol
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I wouldnt mind you taking a ppm reading of the water you bought BEFORE YOU mix anything in?
 
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Gh was the one I suffered with...
But that is a great point..
I forgot all about the diff calcium.. Same with city water too eh?
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yup that is why you wanna use RO
city has carbonate which gunks up your coco and binds like a rock just like in the Tub
why I stay away

I just got handed gallons of this RX green solitions feed but I really want to go to something like Jacks and call it a day
 
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what I justed pulled up now
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Yes, that was the one I mentioned, Wisher. It was the only BC Cal Mag one I could find that would guaranteed arrive in 2 day - that is precisely why I mentioned the one gallon so he could find that one.
 
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I gotta say
when I order from Amazon
I usually get it in 2 days max
free shipping always
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Sure - if they are Prime, guaranteed 1 or 2 days most of the time. However I looked at all of the ones under a gallon and none I found were Prime is all, the Prime ones starred at 1 gallon...again I did the first cat-checkout on like 18 different ones in 1 order so I could see. If one less than a gallon of me Prime - or even was not Prime but would guarantee 2 days or less, I sure missed it. But fairly certain. Glad the gallons were ago in stock though, sounds like he's ok.
 
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yup that is why you wanna use RO
city has carbonate which gunks up your coco and binds like a rock just like in the Tub
why I stay away

I just got handed gallons of this RX green solitions feed but I really want to go to something like Jacks and call it a day
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Dang, killer info Wished - thanks for passing it along!
 
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