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1. yes air stone
2.yes up to the net cup...the splash from the airstone will keep the cube wet
3. nute strength .5-1.0
4. ph 5.5
5. hydroguard yes...water temp same as any hydro setup...65-75 degrees F
Awesome,,, sorry had to get chores done,,, the grass waits for no man :(
5.5???
3. Even with Autos? I still have 7 autos to run of their best selling autos .... @Grow4me has a couple fast and vast autos and she looks pretty happy with them, in soil at that.
4.That is the first time you have ever said 5.5. So seedlings like it more acidic?

Wow I just heard thunder... Talk about timing :)
 
Awesome,,, sorry had to get chores done,,, the grass waits for no man :(
5.5???
3. Even with Autos? I still have 7 autos to run of their best selling autos .... @Grow4me has a couple fast and vast autos and she looks pretty happy with them, in soil at that.
4.That is the first time you have ever said 5.5. So seedlings like it more acidic?

Wow I just heard thunder... Talk about timing :)
yeah.....once established.....
and especially with coco....they like 5.8-6.0
but the safe range in hydro is 5.5-6.5
@ a lower ph of 5.5 micro nutrients are better available to help establish the young seedlings
 
yeah.....once established.....
and especially with coco....they like 5.8-6.0
but the safe range in hydro is 5.5-6.5
@ a lower ph of 5.5 micro nutrients are better available to help establish the young seedlings
I see... and it is the micros that want when they are young huh? I want to use FNB in the buckets. But what do I run in the root spa? What do you suggest for OPTIMAL GROWTH?
 
Hey @Wisher619 Do I need to add hydrogaurd every time i top off res(every day)Sometimes I only add a half gallon to the bucket if that.
 
Hey @Wisher619 Do I need to add hydrogaurd every time i top off res(every day)Sometimes I only add a half gallon to the bucket if that.
no....you can add it once a week is what the botanicare dude said
you can use FNB just in a smaller dose...
but since you have the 3 part still....I would run that for the seedlings.....@ a light dose
 
Just a few pics of the runt and her sisters.... "

hookers shaking their buds all over the place, singing we will, we will,,, rock you, rock you"
 
no....you can add it once a week is what the botanicare dude said
you can use FNB just in a smaller dose...
but since you have the 3 part still....I would run that for the seedlings.....@ a light dose
Ya every day that I top off which is every day now 2 hrs after they wake up. 19% over 2 day stretch, then from yesterday to today they used 14%,,, I am on it, Prof Wish, you have taught me well... (((The force is strong with this one))) my (Yoda voice) they get 100% every day at 6pm.. I am doing it now :)
And I will get to use the grow,,, Yippty,,, had chalked it up to a lesson on nutes...
 
I am having some signs of deficiencies much like the first time... Cal def. Both times It did it I let it get down 2 gallon. I upped my calmag to 3ml per gal after last time. I prob should of flushed them a long time ago... I have never flushed them, to keep them from getting build up..., I just raised the nutes up to a 100%, and I am gonna manually turn on the flood and let it flood and drain for an extended period to try to let it wick up as much nutrient rich water as it can and see if that helps. The diff isnt bad, just a few spots here and there.

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I decided to just gallon up table water and slowly run thru the plant while it was running the flood cycle. Hand watered about 3 gal thru each one from the top, and the shut the flood cycle off. Don't know if that will make a difference. The outside of the grow pot looked chalked here and there like nute build up...
 
I am having some signs of deficiencies much like the first time... Cal def. Both times It did it I let it get down 2 gallon. I upped my calmag to 3ml per gal after last time. I prob should of flushed them a long time ago... I have never flushed them, to keep them from getting build up..., I just raised the nutes up to a 100%, and I am gonna manually turn on the flood and let it flood and drain for an extended period to try to let it wick up as much nutrient rich water as it can and see if that helps. The diff isnt bad, just a few spots here and there.

Edit:
I decided to just gallon up table water and slowly run thru the plant while it was running the flood cycle. Hand watered about 3 gal thru each one from the top, and the shut the flood cycle off. Don't know if that will make a difference. The outside of the grow pot looked chalked here and there like nute build up...
you can flush as much as once a week.....but I would say every 3 weeks you can run a day with just fresh water no nutes...
 
Just a few pics of the runt and her sisters.... "

hookers shaking their buds all over the place, singing we will, we will,,, rock you, rock you"
 

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yeah I cant see the deficiency because of the hps but the leaves look like they are doing what they are supposed to
 
so get this.....
after talking to the botanicare guy....he told me to try upping my nute strength to the recipe they have posted
I do
a week later my mother plant is literally exploding and stinks to high heaven
he explained that with botanicare ( he cant speak for any other company) that the recipe posted for my line....has been tested and that the levels provided give the plants exactly what they need
I cant say that for every company
I do believe however that there recipe is directly for cannabis
my mother plants strength is about 725ppm
so there full bloom is about ec 2.0
I havnt gone over 1.8 .....but from the smell of the mom alone....I am gonna go full hog these next beans
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Now for the modifications

Individual waterfarms.

The first thing that you want to do is to drill out the holes in the upper chamber. They are too small and do not allow thr roots to get into the lower chamber. I drill them out to be slightly smaller than the hydroton (or whatever your using). This prevents the hydroton from falling into the lower chamber. This also allows the root system to get into the lower chamber.

By adding an air stone to each waterfarm, they can become a DWC system when the roots get into the lower chamber. This combination of a drip system and DWC system provide lots of oxygen and nutrient to our babies. I normally use the drip system when they are little and switch to DWC when they get bigger.

8-pack system

One inherent problem with the 8-pack system is keeping the nutrients in each individual unit to the correct PH and PPM. You would have to check each unit, and both reservoirs. General Hydroponics realized this and created a circulation system kit. This system circulates the nutrient through all of the individual units and back into the lower reservoir chamber. The kit costs about $30, but can be created by purchasing the individual parts for much cheaper. The system uses the same percolation tube to circulate the nutrient as the individual waterfarms use to pull the nutrients into the drip ring. You can purchase the additional grommets, tubing and a waterfarm modular kit (that has the percolation tube) and do it yourself.

Here is a picture of the General Hydroponic installation instructions for the circulation kit.
Circulate-Instructions.jpg


The link for this pdf is located at the end of this tutorial.

As you can see, the circulation kit is pretty simple to replicate for the DIYer. If you don't want to DIY, you can purchase this upgrade from any Hydro store, they may have to order it in.

Now you have a system that will circulate the nutrients between each unit and the lower reservoir. I know of some growers that just use the lower reservoir at this point.

I wanted to incorporate the upper reservoir into the system, but ran into a problem with the upper reservoir not having the same PH and PPM as the lower. So I needed to include the upper reservoir in the circulation system. To achieve this, I installed a small submersible pump in the lower reservoir that pumps into the upper reservoir. As the level in the lower reservoir goes down, the float valve opens and the contents of the upper reservoir drains into the lower reservoir. I placed the pump on a timer and it runs for two minutes every hour. You have to make sure that the pump doesn't work faster that the ability to drain from the upper reservoir into the lower.

Now I have achieved a system that incorporates all components of the Waterfarm system and circulates the nutrients between all reservoirs.

With an air stone in each individual unit, I have created a drip/DWC system with a large reservoir capacity that circulates the nutrients through all components of the system.

A couple of things to remember:

Use dark tubing to prevent light from getting into your system. Light = algae.

Kee your nutrient temperature below 75 degrees to prevent algae.

Make sure that the lower reservoir pump doesn't work faster that the gravity drain, otherwise the pump could run dry. This is why I only run my pump for a couple fo minutes each hour.
 
so get this.....
after talking to the botanicare guy....he told me to try upping my nute strength to the recipe they have posted
I do
a week later my mother plant is literally exploding and stinks to high heaven
he explained that with botanicare ( he cant speak for any other company) that the recipe posted for my line....has been tested and that the levels provided give the plants exactly what they need
I cant say that for every company
I do believe however that there recipe is directly for cannabis
my mother plants strength is about 725ppm
so there full bloom is about ec 2.0
I havnt gone over 1.8 .....but from the smell of the mom alone....I am gonna go full hog these next beans
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That is the cns17 right? They look good!
 
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