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Cutting the tips off leaves of clones

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Cutting the tips off leaves of clones

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I only took so many because I have such an impossible time keeping them alive. I only need 4 of them so I took 20. But I did put them in a cup of water with 4ml/L of the clone solution (directions said 5ml/L) immediately after cutting them.

I used a scissors. The razorblade point makes sense (crimping)

I felt the plugs were kind of dry. But the times before I thought maybe they were too wet. The root riot plugs come premoistened. If I squeeze them tight there is water that comes out, but I did feel like maybe they were to dry. That's why last night I moistened just the left side.

This morning I just checked them and it looks pretty much just like the picture from last night.

Would being in the bathroom be an issue? I personally use a castile soap, and not much of it, but my roommate uses all the worst chemical soaps. Should I move them out of there?

My SOP so far is I use tap water with clonex solution, but I actually didn't think to let the chlorine evaporate out this time. I cut the plant, trim most of the leaves off and straight into a cup of water. I would be surprised if they were exposed to air for even 10 seconds.

From there, I put clonex in a separate puck, dip and stick. Before I did, I recut the stems at more of a 45° angle and scrapped a little of the fiber from the bark.

I'm not sure about the humidity. I set it to 90% for the first few hours, but it was only about 72° degrees in there. So I turned it down to 80%. So on the 2nd day I put a heater in there and aim for about 78-81° I think the heat is good, but then more started falling over so I went down to 65%. Last night I put them to 77% before I went to sleep, and I decided to that's probably best, but I don't know.

I will try to keep the cuts smaller in the future. Though, I have to say that it's the 4 tallest ones that appear to be doing the best, but I noted that those also had the wettest plug. Many of the others were the light brown color. All of the plugs got sprayed two shots from my sprayer (like windex type), but only the left side was given and extra 2ml of the solution.

I always pH. I grow in coco coir so it's super important. 5.8 is my target, but for the clone solution I used 6.2 which I'm understanding now to maybe too low.


Thank you everyone who took the time to answer. I hope I managed to answer all the question, and I think I have a few new things to consider for my next attempt.

They are all from one plant.

Addendum: I used trimming scissors, but I did clean them really good with alcohol and use my shirt to make sure they were dry and that - hopefully - any residual IPA was rubbed off.
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Be
Cloning
The ABC’s to success I say. Over clone and practice bro. You should’ve took 100 but it wouldn’t have been good since you didn’t follow the standard operating procedure you should use that I outlined. Follow the SOP for cloning I use and practice it every time with a whole lot of plants extra. Then get rid of what you don’t need. Pick the best of the best. This will help hone your skills to 100%+ you’ll be able to think about making a clone then boom it’ll happen if you do that. Trust.
Peace man I’m happy to help
 
Always
Be
Cloning
The ABC’s to success I say. Over clone and practice bro. You should’ve took 100 but it wouldn’t have been good since you didn’t follow the standard operating procedure you should use that I outlined. Follow the SOP for cloning I use and practice it every time with a whole lot of plants extra. Then get rid of what you don’t need. Pick the best of the best. This will help hone your skills to 100%+ you’ll be able to think about making a clone then boom it’ll happen if you do that. Trust.
Peace man I’m happy to help
I thought I did follow the SOP that you suggested with a few exceptions. That i mentioned. What I, "should have" done. Reads like we've had communication in the past. I did what I did, and it's not ideal by your standards, but I didn't deviate from your SOP to such a degree that I shouldn't have success with at least a few of these. The only difference that I can see is that I used sterile scissors instead of sterile razorblade, and I've watched numerous cloning videos where people use scissors.

I agree that a razorblade is a better tool, and I'll use it in the future. Are you saying my clones are dead and I should take new cuttings?

Also, do you get the impression from me that I'm not listening to your advice? Maybe I'm just reading it wrong.

I'm not a complete noob to growing. I have 7 harvests under my belt, and I've been very happy with the flower. I'm new to taking clones. Everything else has been from seed.

Taking 100 clones to get 4 is ridiculous. I can't believe you suggested that as a genuine response.
 
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These are my clones today. As you can see, they're of varying heights and thickness, but all of them are wilting.

I've read, "don't give up" and that it can just take time. I just don't know what to do.

Will using a razorblade make that much of a difference?

I decided to cull the worst looking one and look at the stalk, and it doesn't appear crimped or rounded off at the end.

I decided to put a small amount of water in the tray so the plug could pull some up from the bottom and then gave them all a really good spray.

It is currently 78° in the tent and 77% humidity.
 

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I leave leaf on but have clipped tips off . But this round i did not clip tips. Have you tried seedling soil only? Those are tiny 2x2 cups i don't cut large stems for space reasons, i start small but that's me. I place them in a cake box from the store it's got a tight lid.
I dip in water, drag it thru the clone gel get a good amount, place it in the wet seedling starter mix. Spray inside the dome lid, my soil is already damp enough. That's a little t-5 seedling lamp approx. 4" away maybe 5". No heat mat nothing just warm inside with humidity from the lamp. I don't know what else to say, it's a shame you can't get those to root but it does take me 2wks.
 

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i suspect your root plugs may dry too fast, and don't expose enough of the stem surface to absorb the humidity it need to survive like any cutted plant.

i suggest you try different method.

put some cutting without anything in a glass of tap water (glass not plastic else you'll get some algae quick), change the water once or twice a weeks.
within 15 days you should see 1-3 roots growing per cutting.

put some cutting directly in small cup with soil (or coco), do some with clonex, some without, you can also have a look at this: (6 recipe for diy rooting hormone)


same within 15 days in soil should have plenty of roots with rooting hormone, and slighlty less dense root ball without rooting hormone.

cannabis is no different than any other plant or flower you cut, if you don't put it in a vase with some water to absorb it will die quickly.
you have to provide that water to the stem through the level of moisture of the medium until it grow some roots.
 
You did it bro congratulations. No I wasn’t saying you aren’t listening or anything I was just trying to reassure you it was a good thing you took so many. Cloning is a valuable skill to have in the arsenal. Taking extra clones is something that people who are really good at cloning have done and always do just to keep practice. When I started I couldn’t get many to root. Then with practice I got it down. That’s all I meant bro.
Congratulations on your success with cloning. If you ever have problems in the future with cloning it’s probably just old cloning solution. I haven’t ran into it but I know when I can’t get my clones to root it’ll be because of the gel not working and being old.
 
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