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the D series veros are the same voltage as the 3590s/
So far so good.I love the footprint but time will tell.I put my HPS setup for sale today with 2 bulbs and the ballast.Shits got to go.Really loving these cobs
So far so good.I love the footprint but time will tell.I put my HPS setup for sale today with 2 bulbs and the ballast.Shits got to go.Really loving these cobs
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yeah you will probley have to cut a cpl" off ur scrog depth but i dont think itll effect yield having the spread light sources.
your smashing it with the greenpoint gear.:badboy:
ive been eye'n the sundance kid:shockedninja: but i really gotta finish the setup before i start banking seeds
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Actually im getting better light penetration than with the CMH for sure and thats straight up.My buckets under the plants are actually brighter than with the HPS
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nice.
tex n sixstring grow pretty big plants under cobs.
like you said, time will tell. but so far im lovin em
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sorry 1mum didnt meen to jack ur thread:party1:
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Great! I thought I was pulling much more electricity than that. At least my electricity bill isn' suffering like I thought. My gpw just shot up! Thanks for correcting my jacked up math.
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Get the one 135/w vero kit from hgl n the one vero 225/w kit from rapid. $185 + $225.
$410 for two great small lights that flower a 3x3
Than add a 315 cmh if u have the space n can deal with the heat.
$410 for two great small lights that flower a 3x3
Than add a 315 cmh if u have the space n can deal with the heat.
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I would scrap the cmh,to much heat.unless you can raise them up they will kill trichs.
For a 3x3 I would go with 4 cobs with a 320 2100 mA driver.that would give you right around 300 watts all driven soft and would own a 3x3.about 40 watts per square foot.
For a 3x3 I would go with 4 cobs with a 320 2100 mA driver.that would give you right around 300 watts all driven soft and would own a 3x3.about 40 watts per square foot.
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The thing that sucks about kits is they are to small to cover big areas.build it your self and space the cobs out how you want to get nice coverage
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Actually, if you get the high quality stuff you don't and you don't need it either. Nature has no switch. I run spydrx in veg (5 bar) and 2 spydrx plus (8 bar) in flower. I will be adding the vyprx plus in the middle in a month or so. I don't use any dimmer just nothing but go. If you'e handy and want to build it, go cree cob quantum. Don't waste time on shit for no reason. If budget is your game go 315 cmh. If you want to take it out of the box and plug it in go spydrx or any of the bioengineering lineup. Basically go for quality at all coat. Weather cmh, or led or self built
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The cheapest thing that would put off a legit 225w is the vero kit from rapid.
That’s enough to veg 2-4 plants n flower 1 huge momma or two plants
That’s enough to veg 2-4 plants n flower 1 huge momma or two plants
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Crees are cooler by the numbers.
When u factor in price n a lil ac to cool things down sum.....u start to split hairs.
I’d go Cree just because slight better tech n technology is only going to progress.
But on that same token, 220 for that vero kit is tempting.
May have to pull a fast one on the wife with visa this month
Lol
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Any of the top brand cobs is splitting hairs in terms of which is best. I think Vero SE's might top the chart right now though. Shouldn't have to run AC to cool cobs...
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Ok I just wanted to point out that Vero 29 and cree 3590 are not the same voltage and don't always play on the same drivers.
Cree run at about 34.5 to 35v when driven at 1amp and Vero is above 36 so for instance you can run 5 x cree on a Meanwell hlg 185 1050ma driver and max out the driver.but the Vero would barely light up as the driver goes into limp mode.if you had a dim knobs on it it won't even light up.but some guys would think limp mode is bright as hell when in reality it's putting out about 20 watts.what I'm saying is the cree being lower voltage has many more driver options for series wiring and why you see so many people using parallel wiring and CV drivers.
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Don’t want to argue, but cree are more efficient n cooler then vero.
Just slightly, but if u want to get down to nitty gritty, they are #1
That’s of course if your not considering talking Samsun LM561C diodes n Samsung LM301B”s
301 are the most efficient on market today. 561 better bang for buck
The strip lights are just awesome
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i think greengenes or @tags420 would argue the vero 29 @ 69v cob is better at all wattages above about 40w .i love my cree cobs but they need to step it up and give us a new chip soon and they need to keep it under 30 bucks
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Every test I have seen this seems to also be the case.the creees are top dog in the lower wattages
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That’s what I’m saying. If you don’t drive them that hard they are cool, very cool.
And they are quite a bit more efficient.
Veros driven very hard are a better buy I’d agree.
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But then i really need to understand this... If I need around 40watts / sqft and I cover 3x3sqft, then I'll need (9x40w=) 360w. With an hps i do 400w for 12sqft. So the electricity consumption is the approx. The same... I get that part with more photo syntesis active blah blah, better spectrum, less heat... But where is that saving
all people talkin' about. I need more or less the SAME amount of Watts per area, don't I?
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