Why don't you show a little respect Satica?
Most ''True breeders "I know are working their ass off most of the time trying to create more killer strains for us!
This site has so much info,you might try doing a little research yourself.
I think Satica is showing respect... for growers.
Most new growers are into the name ( elite clone name) and most people who make seeds are into the money. Very ,very few are putting in the years it takes to make something stable and unique. That being said...
Lots of people become fans of breeders without really knowing anything about breeding. It's fun, to have a "true believer" like faith in the person making the seeds and get excited about new releases.
People get offended (especially newbs ) if you even question the methods used in breeding by their favorite seed maker.
On the flip side, one can take it too seriously and miss out on how fun growing can be. Imagine saying you will only grow seeds made by someone who works with landrace genetics completely making true breeding strains from scratch. You can count the number of breeders who still do that on one hand. ( Mendocino Joe, Shanti, Tom Hill, DJ short etc...) Or even the breeders growing large populations and really doing the selections based on quality and not the name making something unique....( Sannie, Mota, Spice of Life , Chimera, there are more).
You would be so serious about growing that you would miss out on the fun. You would miss out on the possibility that a random cross to a hyped elite clone could give you a great plant despite the lack of work put into it.
I used to get very uptight about who is a breeder and who is not. Or what suckers people are for getting duped by hype. Now I have fun growing and admire the business skills of the people making lemonade from lemons.
I am now open to the possibility that you could get bunk seeds from a really great breeder and that you could get great seeds from a hack. It's just the law of averages. You'll never know until you try and no matter how much they document their process and selection you may still end up with ten males.
Grow some seeds, a lot of seeds, pick a mother, clone her, practice dialing it in and see how much of the quality lies in the hands of the grower.