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Idk I don’t think a lot of people agree but I personally agree with you there. If the chit is grown right n faded out for harvest then dried slow n cold there ain’t no need to cure. Or definately reduces the need to cure. My chit straight off the rack is fire no cure. 7-10 days to dry in cold dark room with ton of air exchange. But I don’t have donkey colas. So I actually have to drop temps to slow the dry.Mini-update! week 5, day 30.
Okay, so I did some runoff EC readings again, and it's showing 2.2. So really pushing the limit on the EC.
I dropped my watering EC to 1.2, now using 20ml of Flores with 7.5ml of PK13/14, 20ml Canna Boost. I'm watering with 50% runoff now, to avoid increasing my EC any further.
I will be doing a 3 week flush, last time I had spectacular results, and I am now a firm believer in a longer flush time. You can shave off weeks of curing by increasing the flush time, the taste is fantastic! :D
If this were a longer strain, like a sativa, I might've done a mini-flush at this point.
Mini-update! week 5, day 30.
Okay, so I did some runoff EC readings again, and it's showing 2.2. So really pushing the limit on the EC.
I dropped my watering EC to 1.2, now using 20ml of Flores with 7.5ml of PK13/14, 20ml Canna Boost. I'm watering with 50% runoff now, to avoid increasing my EC any further.
I will be doing a 3 week flush, last time I had spectacular results, and I am now a firm believer in a longer flush time. You can shave off weeks of curing by increasing the flush time, the taste is fantastic! :D
If this were a longer strain, like a sativa, I might've done a mini-flush at this point.
Just a tip. If you dont overfeed there is no need to flush for flavor. And the results will be improved.
I think we need a few side by side grows to determine the answer to this ;)
Next grow I'm thinking about ditching all bottled nutes, and using only organic, dry fertilizers mixed into a supersoil, and just feeding water.
The deficiency in the defoliated plants got me thinking so I went off and did some research - a bit of a lit review on what papers are out there on the controlled defoliation of various species. What is apparent is that N uptake is affected by defoliation (largely due to the plant directing resources away from the roots and towards regrowth) and this needs to be compensated for. e.g.
N supply was important in rebuilding crowns following a defoliation event.
Pinkard, EA, Battaglia, M and Mohammed, CL 2007 , 'Defoliation and nitrogen effects on photosynthesis and growth of Eucalyptus globulus' , Tree Physiology, vol. 27, no. 7 , pp. 1053-1063 .
Loads of other papers supporting/finding this also. The thing being if N supply is limited by defoliation so too will other nutrients be. All about allocation of resources and in doing one thing the response equals ???
You can really see the deficiency issue. Is that a defoliated plant? I've been doing a bit of research on this one because if you for example look at shwazzing the guy who promotes it recommends very high nutrient strengths and I expect he discovered this through trial and error. I.e. when he defoliated he saw deficiencies. Answer feed more. From a scientific perspective the literature supports this... E.g.
Nice man! Good effort! Yeah I would suggest also compensating for the lower nutrient absorption associated to defoliation but as you say it is a bit like threading a needle. But yep if the controls are now showing deficiency that's across the board. Did the defoliated plants though show the deficiency before the control?
I just read up on this schwazzing
Honestly the video is nice but proves no method. No actual hands on. Too much like a commercial.
So why is everyone stuck on fan leaves being the power source of the plant?
I always thought the little leaves attatched to the buds were what mattered and big ones just blocked things.
On the defoliating subject
How late is too late to defoliate pretty heavily?
Would you all say 30 days in no later?
Is there a negative effect ?
Has anyone personally experienced negatives? from defoliating mid flower ( plant die, slowed a lot in growth or stalled in flower ?)[/QUOTE
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I have been defoliating my skittelz continually throughout flower with no ill effects . I have never had better buds
defoliating to some extent is crucial
I just read up on this schwazzing
Honestly the video is nice but proves no method. No actual hands on. Too much like a commercial.
So why is everyone stuck on fan leaves being the power source of the plant?
I always thought the little leaves attatched to the buds were what mattered and big ones just blocked things.
On the defoliating subject
How late is too late to defoliate pretty heavily?
Would you all say 30 days in no later?
Is there a negative effect ?
Has anyone personally experienced negatives? from defoliating mid flower ( plant die, slowed a lot in growth or stalled in flower ?)
Yeah, defoliation side showed problems before the control group, around 10 days prior.
Fucking funny!!!!!Maybe when their book doesnt sell anymore they will revise their stance and the new book will be 4 a light. No defoliation needed.
:)
I have been defoliating throughout flower for my last 2 grows . My current grow is currently at the beginning of week 5 flower . I clip leaves every few days to aid light penetrating further into the canopy but don’t go crazy and do this until I see fit.
However i am selective in which leafs to take and like to leave as much on therebas possible . I have seen no negative results . Also my tent is crowded with the 3 big ladies and plenty of foliage always seems to increase humidity with wet spots on touching leafs after the dark cycle . Defoliating helps prevent this and can only be good for preventing bud rot.
My defoliated skittelz @ week 5
Great job! What strain is that?We’re at right about the same day, OP! These were defoliated in day 21, this pic was taken day 30 I believe. I’ve gone through and taken a significant amount more in the last 5 days. Haven’t seen any negative effects yet(knock on wood). I’m feeding somewhat heavily, multiple times a day in straight coco. Wish I did a before and after like you did! Tuned in for sure. Looking good so far. Also, great info in this thread thank you for this
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