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Is the sprinkles needed? They kinda do give it a cool look tho I guess..
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They had done raised the price of my new tent that I wanted to 400... I said hell with that. I build the room for 400! Might even be able to get a autopilot if I budget really well....
Then I think I'm gonna start trying to budget in replacement lights for the hps/mh...
I can't decide weather I want to go with cmh315 or cobs...
At 60 a bulb x 2 twice a year plus the costs to run the hids, I just think I need to upgrade when it comes time to replace bulbs.. At least 1 of the lights and then the other one soon after.
Then I think I'm gonna start trying to budget in replacement lights for the hps/mh...
I can't decide weather I want to go with cmh315 or cobs...
At 60 a bulb x 2 twice a year plus the costs to run the hids, I just think I need to upgrade when it comes time to replace bulbs.. At least 1 of the lights and then the other one soon after.
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easily able to build a room for 400They had done raised the price of my new tent that I wanted to 400... I said hell with that. I build the room for 400! Might even be able to get a autopilot if I budget really well....
Then I think I'm gonna start trying to budget in replacement lights for the hps/mh...
I can't decide weather I want to go with cmh315 or cobs...
At 60 a bulb x 2 twice a year plus the costs to run the hids, I just think I need to upgrade when it comes time to replace bulbs.. At least 1 of the lights and then the other one soon after.
dude for 400 in materials you could completely comparmentalize the grow space with seperate veg/bloom/clone/mom area
with drywall/insulation and the works
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@Wisher619 stop hoarding all that fart dust!!
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They had done raised the price of my new tent that I wanted to 400... I said hell with that. I build the room for 400! Might even be able to get a autopilot if I budget really well....
Then I think I'm gonna start trying to budget in replacement lights for the hps/mh...
I can't decide weather I want to go with cmh315 or cobs...
At 60 a bulb x 2 twice a year plus the costs to run the hids, I just think I need to upgrade when it comes time to replace bulbs.. At least 1 of the lights and then the other one soon after.
So, I've been reading up on people using different lights. I've been trying to find one where someone combines LEC/CMH with a top bin COB. As in thinking of trying that.
Then to compound matters the new hotness in LED isn't even COBs it's now "Quantum Boards" which I'm just now looking into. Some guys in the LED forum have some radical stuff going on.
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quantom boards are cool but really it is just single diode boards kinda like Spectrum King on a larger scale
when I build my next grow cab
my lights are gonna be recessed into the ceiling
HPS in the center and 2 Cree cobs on each side
for a total of 750w
over a 2x4 table
since my state laws have changed I am going single stem SOG maxing out the tray
once the cab is built
I will then use my old cab for breeding
when I build my next grow cab
my lights are gonna be recessed into the ceiling
HPS in the center and 2 Cree cobs on each side
for a total of 750w
over a 2x4 table
since my state laws have changed I am going single stem SOG maxing out the tray
once the cab is built
I will then use my old cab for breeding
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quantom boards are cool but really it is just single diode boards kinda like Spectrum King on a larger scale
when I build my next grow cab
my lights are gonna be recessed into the ceiling
HPS in the center and 2 Cree cobs on each side
for a total of 750w
over a 2x4 table
since my state laws have changed I am going single stem SOG maxing out the tray
once the cab is built
I will then use my old cab for breeding
Ok so question. Why not CMH surrounded by Crees. And which cob 3590?
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Top Bin 3500k 3590 ran @ 2100MaOk so question. Why not CMH surrounded by Crees. And which cob 3590?
that is 75w per cob
300w of cob produces 150 par watts
925ppfd @ 18"in a 2x4 area
but if I run the hps center and 2 cobs per side it would be murder
I like cmh but I have the white spectrum already with the cobs
and the red of the hps
already have all the equipment and dont need to spend any more on lights and whatnot
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Nice, game changer if you already have the equipment, for sure. I have 8 72v 3590 3500k run at 700mA (4 cob per driver) for 400w right meow. I've been considering another row of 4 for a better footprint and 600w which should be great in a 4x4. But I've also been looking at a CMH315 to put in the tent and I can reframe the 8 COBs in a grid around it. Any thoughts since I don't own the equipment?Top Bin 3500k 3590 ran @ 2100Ma
that is 75w per cob
300w of cob produces 150 par watts
925ppfd @ 18"in a 2x4 area
but if I run the hps center and 2 cobs per side it would be murder
I like cmh but I have the white spectrum already with the cobs
and the red of the hps
already have all the equipment and dont need to spend any more on lights and whatnot
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no thoughts.....sounds pretty good
I have ran HPS for a long time and have always been able to grow large rock solid buds
I have run these LEDs for about a year and they perform great
not as rock solid as hps or as big but def WAY more frosty
so I am just gonna combine the 2
I have ran HPS for a long time and have always been able to grow large rock solid buds
I have run these LEDs for about a year and they perform great
not as rock solid as hps or as big but def WAY more frosty
so I am just gonna combine the 2
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Good conversation boys.. Always good info..
I'm thinking more along the lines of my dimmable, selectable hps, surrounded by 8 75 watt cobs...
If I'm correct in my thinking.., the cobs are dimmable to and I could use only the cobs in veg. I'm running 1200 watts mh right now in veg... Complete overkill and I will rectify that within the year! I could dim them cobs to 25 watts a piece and be saving HUGE right now...
Having 8 cobs above 8 buckets, would be awesome especially if I had them placed off to the outside slightly pointed slightly in,, so that I could keep my hps in the middle way up top like a big ass sun with out the leds blocking it... ... with my super horti hps bulbs...
I also liked the idea of recessed lighting. I could do that with the floor rafters, and then create a air flow thru it to keep the sinks cool.
I'm thinking more along the lines of my dimmable, selectable hps, surrounded by 8 75 watt cobs...
If I'm correct in my thinking.., the cobs are dimmable to and I could use only the cobs in veg. I'm running 1200 watts mh right now in veg... Complete overkill and I will rectify that within the year! I could dim them cobs to 25 watts a piece and be saving HUGE right now...
Having 8 cobs above 8 buckets, would be awesome especially if I had them placed off to the outside slightly pointed slightly in,, so that I could keep my hps in the middle way up top like a big ass sun with out the leds blocking it... ... with my super horti hps bulbs...
I also liked the idea of recessed lighting. I could do that with the floor rafters, and then create a air flow thru it to keep the sinks cool.
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Yep that what I decided too... So up get me some breakfast and go get some materials. .... I catch up with you gents later today..easily able to build a room for 400
dude for 400 in materials you could completely comparmentalize the grow space with seperate veg/bloom/clone/mom area
with drywall/insulation and the works
Dan I dreamed of A gold last night.. thanks wish lol
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yeah what I was thinkin for lights was the hps in the middle and 2 cobs on either sideYep that what I decided too... So up get me some breakfast and go get some materials. .... I catch up with you gents later today..
Dan I dreamed of A gold last night.. thanks wish lol
I was gonna make it so they arent moveable
just stationary
of course I veg in a dif area so this system would be strictly for flowering
in veg I still like my T-8 they do well
what I was thinkin was when they go to flower....for the first week only cob then on goes the hps.....giving them a chance for transition without bleaching and all that
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Ya I kinda like to veg in my cloner for as long as possible, throw them in the buckets, veg a week, and flip....yeah what I was thinkin for lights was the hps in the middle and 2 cobs on either side
I was gonna make it so they arent moveable
just stationary
of course I veg in a dif area so this system would be strictly for flowering
in veg I still like my T-8 they do well
what I was thinkin was when they go to flower....for the first week only cob then on goes the hps.....giving them a chance for transition without bleaching and all that
For my cloner I just use my t5.
Well I'm down here working so let me see what I can get done today. I'm awful slow 9th my own time especially with a big sack sitting next to me... lol
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that and a bad back!!!!!!Ya I kinda like to veg in my cloner for as long as possible, throw them in the buckets, veg a week, and flip....
For my cloner I just use my t5.
Well I'm down here working so let me see what I can get done today. I'm awful slow 9th my own time especially with a big sack sitting next to me... lol
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That looks more like calcium and lime leaching out of the concrete but still nuke it to be safeMold?????
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Yea the little notch that dips into ct and we don't talk like them out there. People from Boston think we have to drive an hr to the grocery store in some places yes but I've got 50 acre farm attached to the house with a Dunkin' Donuts cvs big y pride and a liquor store.. cant fuckin beat itI'm guessing that western massholes is assholes from the western part of Massachusetts. ..lol
We actually mock the way bostoneers talk... lol
But they would probably laugh at my southern accent too...
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Nice man, not too far! We need to have a sesh once I harvest :) do you ever make it out this way?Fuck yea so your an east coaster like myself I'm down in southwick fuckin with these western massholes
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All the time I've got clients out your way I deal with I'll let you kno next time I'm in the area, gotta come check out are farmNice man, not too far! We need to have a sesh once I harvest :) do you ever make it out this way?
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Exactlythat and a bad back!!!!!!
Good eye.. I'm not really all that smart about concrete.That looks more like calcium and lime leaching out of the concrete but still nuke it to be safe
Well got the wall framed up. Now to lug the drywall down here BY MYSELF....ugh..
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