Drying issues losing smell need advice.

[Ninjadogma]

Correct it is the chlorophyll burning up, which is vital to smooth smoke. Sometimes when you let it cure properly it will bring terps back out

My assumptions may be wrong but they are that chlorophyll is mostly based in a water environment and terpenes are mostly based in an oil environment. So as we dry our weed, the chlorophyll smells that dominate the drying room are the gases from the chlorophyll decomposing. Once it is drier, the chlorophyll smell dissipates with the loss of water and the terpene smells increase as they begin to lose the water from the resin at a much slower rate... Until there isn't much smell at all, which can happen when you overdry your weed or it's been sitting in the jar to long.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

My assumptions may be wrong but they are that chlorophyll is mostly based in a water environment and terpenes are mostly based in an oil environment. So as we dry our weed, the chlorophyll smells that dominate the drying room are the gases from the chlorophyll decomposing. Once it is drier, the chlorophyll smell dissipates with the loss of water and the terpene smells increase as they begin to lose the water from the resin at a much slower rate... Until there isn't much smell at all, which can happen when you overdry your weed or it's been sitting in the jar to long.

you are correct, but you cn also dry cannabis too fast for the chlorophyl to break down properly.

In this instance leaving your cannabis in jar at about 60% for several days before burping will remove alot of the harshness and lung phlegm from cannabis dried to fast. Itll also make the ash whiter after burn. It will however also equally break down a lot of the more volatile terps to bring it back up once its dried too fast.


Callulose also take a good while to break down enough to help the flower burn at a lower temperature. Much longer the chlorophyl. And it will never actually fully break down inside a jar either. That along side decarb processes is what makes cured weed perceivably more potent once its been curing for several months.. Lower burn temp thanks to partially decomposed cellulose, and partially decarbed thc-a.


If anyone has wondered why outdoor smoke tends to hit a lot harder a lot sooner, its because chlorphyl, cellulose, are both breaking down at a higher rate naturally from exposure once harvested, and a good % of that thc-a has also broken down into delta 9 from exposure. All while the plant is still alive and growing. Usually fire outdoor buds smoke in a handful of weeks as nicely as indoor flowers a few months into cure. Even if once cured the indoor buds are nicer to smoke on in general post full cure.

 

[Galgrows]

you are correct, but you cn also dry cannabis too fast for the chlorophyl to break down properly.

In this instance leaving your cannabis in jar at about 60% for several days before burping will remove alot of the harshness and lung phlegm from cannabis dried to fast. Itll also make the ash whiter after burn. It will however also equally break down a lot of the more volatile terps to bring it back up once its dried too fast.


Callulose also take a good while to break down enough to help the flower burn at a lower temperature. Much longer the chlorophyl. And it will never actually fully break down inside a jar either. That along side decarb processes is what makes cured weed perceivably more potent once its been curing for several months.. Lower burn temp thanks to partially decomposed cellulose, and partially decarbed thc-a.


If anyone has wondered why outdoor smoke tends to hit a lot harder a lot sooner, its because chlorphyl, cellulose, are both breaking down at a higher rate naturally from exposure once harvested, and a good % of that thc-a has also broken down into delta 9 from exposure. All while the plant is still alive and growing. Usually fire outdoor buds smoke in a handful of weeks as nicely as indoor flowers a few months into cure. Even if once cured the indoor buds are nicer to smoke on in general post full cure.

Agreed good explaination

 

[SlyBoy420]

My first real outdoor grow this year. I chopped a plant early. Did a bud wash. Hung for 7 days, 68⁰ and between 50-60% humidity. Smelled like hay for awhile. They've been in jars for 2 days now. They smell absolutely dank. The smoke THC is low though because there were still lots of clear trichs when cut. I call it pretendica. Wanted to let you know if you know your trichs were on point, your smoke should eventually smell like dank cannabis. If you aren't getting that after a year or two after harvesting, something isn't going right somewhere. Are you using hygrometer in dry tent and the jars? I did a wet trim and hung branches, not entire plant.

The first couple years I tried growing I didn’t look much into the processes. I dried outside in a shed with a fan on everything. Next inside without trying to control the environment. This year is the first I attempted investing in knowledge and equipment. I’m drying in a 4x4 tent hooked up at ac with two small dehumidifiers allowing me to run normally what must people are saying 60-65 rh temp 60-65 I check tricks with a microscope that links to my phone I got this year so far what I’ve taken down looked milky with hints of amber and I bought meters to put in the jars. So far what I’ve harvested has been curing a lil over a week with rh between 63-67 depending on the jar. I realize it takes weeks to months too cure. It’s just hard to believe I could smells these plants from forty yards away a now nothing really. If I squeeze the buds I can smell slot more hopefully with time it comes back somewhat

 

[Halloweed]

Since we are discussing drying and curing I've wanted to know, after burping for a while I use boveda 62% 1 per jar. Most of my jars stay at 62% but some fluctuate to 64%.

Once you use the boveda do you continue to burp? So far I still open them every week or so for air exchange. Just wondering if that's still necessary.

Also I'm aware that og's cure without needing a boveda but I'm not at that point yet haha.

 

[Halloweed]

The first couple years I tried growing I didn’t look much into the processes. I dried outside in a shed with a fan on everything. Next inside without trying to control the environment. This year is the first I attempted investing in knowledge and equipment. I’m drying in a 4x4 tent hooked up at ac with two small dehumidifiers allowing me to run normally what must people are saying 60-65 rh temp 60-65 I check tricks with a microscope that links to my phone I got this year so far what I’ve taken down looked milky with hints of amber and I bought meters to put in the jars. So far what I’ve harvested has been curing a lil over a week with rh between 63-67 depending on the jar. I realize it takes weeks to months too cure. It’s just hard to believe I could smells these plants from forty yards away a now nothing really. If I squeeze the buds I can smell slot more hopefully with time it comes back somewhat

Yeah that's weird. It can smell strong growing but when you chop it, the majority of the smell is gone.

 

[SlyBoy420]

Back to what I’m curious about tho should i remove only the biggest fan leaves and leave the smaller fan looking leaves as well as the sugar leafs? Or try to hang the whole thing or as big of sections as possible to try to lengthen the dry time?

 

[Organic13]

The first couple years I tried growing I didn’t look much into the processes. I dried outside in a shed with a fan on everything. Next inside without trying to control the environment. This year is the first I attempted investing in knowledge and equipment. I’m drying in a 4x4 tent hooked up at ac with two small dehumidifiers allowing me to run normally what must people are saying 60-65 rh temp 60-65 I check tricks with a microscope that links to my phone I got this year so far what I’ve taken down looked milky with hints of amber and I bought meters to put in the jars. So far what I’ve harvested has been curing a lil over a week with rh between 63-67 depending on the jar. I realize it takes weeks to months too cure. It’s just hard to believe I could smells these plants from forty yards away a now nothing really. If I squeeze the buds I can smell slot more hopefully with time it comes back somewhat

As long as you are burping your jars, you should get there. I'm burping mine 3xs a day currently. That doesn't mean I'm just opening and then closing either. I'm leaving them open for an hour or so. As time goes on, the burping will reduce and so will the time they are left open.

Just like we have patience whole growing, your curing will require some too. You'll get there eventually.

Knowledge is power. Often times experience is our best teacher.

I did a wet trim. I didn't have any fan leaves when I went to hang my branches.

 

[ParaffinMuffin]

you are correct, but you cn also dry cannabis too fast for the chlorophyl to break down properly.

In this instance leaving your cannabis in jar at about 60% for several days before burping will remove alot of the harshness and lung phlegm from cannabis dried to fast. Itll also make the ash whiter after burn. It will however also equally break down a lot of the more volatile terps to bring it back up once its dried too fast.


Callulose also take a good while to break down enough to help the flower burn at a lower temperature. Much longer the chlorophyl. And it will never actually fully break down inside a jar either. That along side decarb processes is what makes cured weed perceivably more potent once its been curing for several months.. Lower burn temp thanks to partially decomposed cellulose, and partially decarbed thc-a.


If anyone has wondered why outdoor smoke tends to hit a lot harder a lot sooner, its because chlorphyl, cellulose, are both breaking down at a higher rate naturally from exposure once harvested, and a good % of that thc-a has also broken down into delta 9 from exposure. All while the plant is still alive and growing. Usually fire outdoor buds smoke in a handful of weeks as nicely as indoor flowers a few months into cure. Even if once cured the indoor buds are nicer to smoke on in general post full cure.

Nah. Chlorophyll is 100% irrelevant. Smells minty when isolated.

Invest in knowledge. If you know what causes plant smells, it will help you produce tor avoid those smells.

If you believe the misinfo, you'll end up spraying your weed with fake terps like lots of growers are doing (they call it thca hemp lol).


You can vape literally any water soluble or gaseous substance into a room of hanging bud and observe the results. Which have you tried? A bunch of store bought essential oil terps? Not the way. Way off course. Plants should be making weed flavor though lipoxygenase activity after harvest, not making gross essential oil terpenes before harvest and attempting to preserve them.

 

[Thukah]

My first harvest was a massive outdoor plant, and I carelessly hung it in a shed with no air flow after a wet trim...omg worst hay/ammonia tasting weed ever. Although turned it into an extract for a family member with cancer and she enjoyed it a lot!

 

[mstrpkl]

Nah. Chlorophyll is 100% irrelevant. Smells minty when isolated.

Invest in knowledge. If you know what causes plant smells, it will help you produce tor avoid those smells.

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If you believe the misinfo, you'll end up spraying your weed with fake terps like lots of growers are doing (they call it thca hemp lol).


You can vape literally any water soluble or gaseous substance into a room of hanging bud and observe the results. Which have you tried? A bunch of store bought essential oil terps? Not the way. Way off course. Plants should be making weed flavor though lipoxygenase activity after harvest, not making gross essential oil terpenes before harvest and attempting to preserve them.

Bro get off the site youre annoying as hell lol nobody likes an ignorant know-it-all who just talks shit to everyone lol thca is not a terpene by the way

 

[hawkman]

not not worry it will come back once you start the curing

 

[Ninjadogma]

Here's my hack for what to do when you do your drying outside and Mother Nature decides to deliver Santa Ana conditions on you right in the middle of your dry with single digit humidity levels threatening your buds.

 

[singlecoiled]

Are you using a fan or allowing a high flow of air though the tent while curing? If a fan is blowing on the buds, they will dry too fast and lose aroma.

It's important to keep some airflow moving in the tent (or dry box) but not directly on the flowers... I learned this lesson the hardway and wound up with grassy weed.

The good news is, as many have said, your flowers should increase in odor after jarring and burping a few weeks..

 

[singlecoiled]

Here's my hack for what to do when you do your drying outside and Mother Nature decides to deliver Santa Ana conditions on you right in the middle of your dry with single digit humidity levels threatening your buds.

Nice ! I do the same thing in winter when the RH drops too low. I use a paper sandwich back for each cola !

I've also tried a box which works great. (the box slows down drying so they don't dry too quickly)....

 

[RealFarmer]

If a strain loses smell I never run it again. Genetics have a lot to do with it also. I have grown strains that have dried under all types of conditions that never lost smell, even when speed dried. I have noticed underfed plants don't smell as much also.

 

[Ninjadogma]

If I ever have a big enough harvest I'd like to try using a box for the pre-curing sweat. I finish every dry with a day or two in a bag before the jar but I try and limit their contact time with wood pulp. I think at some point we've all had pizza that tasted like cardboard because the pizza boxes were allowed to get moist and nobody wants to smoke weed that smells like a lunch bag. I like your setup because the buds hang freely without touching the cardboard. It just provides a nice "microclimate."

 

[singlecoiled]

If I ever have a big enough harvest I'd like to try using a box for the pre-curing sweat. I finish every dry with a day or two in a bag before the jar but I try and limit their contact time with wood pulp. I think at some point we've all had pizza that tasted like cardboard because the pizza boxes were allowed to get moist and nobody wants to smoke weed that smells like a lunch bag. I like your setup because the buds hang freely without touching the cardboard. It just provides a nice "microclimate."

Thanks for the compliment, this was a manifold grow in a very small space. 16" x 16" x 24"... The mainline grew 8 massive colas weighing in around 2.5 -3 ounces each (wet with a very thick stem).... Dried, I wound up with around 2 zips, stems removed.

With such large colas, the dry time took over 2 weeks at 58-60 RH in the box... Without the box, I would have lost a lot of terpenes and odor, I've made the mistake before.

My main point is that you have to have a little air moving, but no fans directly on the flowers... With paper or cardboard, just enough air moves through while allowing a slow dry time...

 

[singlecoiled]

If a strain loses smell I never run it again. Genetics have a lot to do with it also. I have grown strains that have dried under all types of conditions that never lost smell, even when speed dried. I have noticed underfed plants don't smell as much also.

Odd you mention this, I've found that underfeeding sulfur is the biggest cause of low odor. I use a product called mag pro which has sulfur. It's not my imagination, a few days after using Mag pro, my plants start to reek ! It's amazing ! It's not something that happened once either, its been consistent. Any time I up the dosage of sulfur, my plants stink ! So, I think you hit the nail on the head here, nutrient deficiencies can reduce odor.

 

[kin88]

anything under 58% and it will all smell like hay you hve to keep it at 60-65% for best results

There you have a study made about it. Worth a read for sure! ;)