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Please do… hope things turn around and in sure they will. Think the major thing was the light but that can cause the plants to stunt and all sorts of health issues. Healthy plants are much more resistant so i think ya got this man.Sounds great! Well... nothing to do here now but wait and see. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks to Aqua Man and everyone else for their help and advice! I truly appreciate it!
Please do… hope things turn around and in sure they will. Think the major thing was the light but that can cause the plants to stunt and all sorts of health issues. Healthy plants are much more resistant so i think ya got this man.
I used a black trash bag that I cut a square out of and then a slice to get it around the stem. Ya, you want to keep light out. I think Moe recommends a bit warmer, around 70 for young plants and then 68 for the duration after the plant is established.
Add cal magI can see you in great hands.
Also looking at your post , if my plant were your size .
I would take your water ,add calmag to 150-180 then I would go to at least 400 with the a-b feed . Maybe even 5 but that’s me.
Could you explain your 5ml of shock. Like straight up??
In the right proportion, your dam right.Add cal mag
That's the solution to every problem it seems lol. The issues I'm seeing are undoubtedly due to a root related problem and additionally as Aqua Man said, probably also my light intensity being far too high, not insufficient amounts of cal/mag.Add cal mag
Im running 83f res temps currently (not ideal) personally i found 72-74f to be ideal but you must run beneficial or be on top of your sterile program. Ignore that back plant its a goner. I wasn’t running beneficials or sterile for about 2-3weeks and ended up with crown rot that cost me that plant and one moreView attachment 1288524
Ha! yeah, that reminds me a lot of my first 5gal bucket, only that actually looks far better (and much more mass) than I ever saw with that run even with bennies. I feel your pain though. Dealing with that is not a pleasant experience.And on the other side of the spectrum - this plant never saw res temps much above 70ºF. I also didn't run live or sterile until a few weeks in.
Well im not 100% certain but im running elevated o2 in the water and i feel thats whats allowing me to run 83f but a normal system IME 72-74 is about as ideal as it gets. I havent had a chance to test but im pretty sure im well over 200% of the max saturation level of o2 in my system.Wow, that's super impressive that they are still that clean looking for those temps, and how long you went not running either. That root mass is huge!
Ha! yeah, that reminds me a lot of my first 5gal bucket, only that actually looks far better (and much more mass) than I ever saw with that run even with bennies. I feel your pain though. Dealing with that is not a pleasant experience.
This is another great example of "a chiller / low water temps won't magically prevent root rot from happening!", and absolutely reinforces the need to run either live or sterile in addition to keeping water temps in check.
Very interesting. I've wanted to get an o2 monitor just to check mine as well, just for the sake of curiosity. What air stones are you running, and how many per bucket? I'm really thinking this new air pump is going to help. I was afraid having too many bubbles was going to cause the water to become too turbulent and disturb/damage the roots, but .... it definitely doesn't seem to be the case.Well im not 100% certain but im running elevated o2 in the water and i feel thats whats allowing me to run 83f but a normal system IME 72-74 is about as ideal as it gets. I havent had a chance to test but im pretty sure im well over 200% of the max saturation level of o2 in my system.
Did you add one calmag or two calmag ?That's the solution to every problem it seems lol. The issues I'm seeing are undoubtedly due to a root related problem and additionally as Aqua Man said, probably also my light intensity being far too high, not insufficient amounts of cal/mag.
Already have it in there though - first post "Nutes: CalMag and House and Garden A&B AquaFlakes".
Im ot running airstones. Im separating oxygen molecules and delivering them to my nutrient solution.Very interesting. I've wanted to get an o2 monitor just to check mine as well, just for the sake of curiosity. What air stones are you running, and how many per bucket? I'm really thinking this new air pump is going to help. I was afraid having too many bubbles was going to cause the water to become too turbulent and disturb/damage the roots, but .... it definitely doesn't seem to be the case.
In 10 years ive nevAnd on the other side of the spectrum - this plant never saw res temps much above 70ºF. I also didn't run live or sterile until a few weeks in.
I too have never run live or sterile temp always around 68.And on the other side of the spectrum - this plant never saw res temps much above 70ºF. I also didn't run live or sterile until a few weeks in.
But what have you run?In 10 years ive nev
I too have never run live or sterile temp always around 68.
Exactly… and bacteria occur naturally… its kind of a crap shoot and temp has very little to do with which bacteria take hold but rather the speed at which they reproduce. There are often reasons we dont think of for a result and often assumptions can be wrong. Hell tap water containers most often now chloramines which if doing a water change often actually can act as a sterilizer Which is not often considered. By inoculating we give the bacteria we want a head start to colonize and outcompete other speciesBut what have you run?
I also didn't encounter root rot ever before switching up my nutrient lineup for this grow.
You may not have run live or sterile intentionally, but you may have unknowingly. I.e. - incorporated into a nutrient lineup.
Just a quick gander at the GH FloraMicro...
All of those constituents we know (or at least trust) to be necessary nutrients. But we don't often think about how many of them are antibiotic (fungicidal, algaecidal, etc.)
Gh 3 part only, ph up, ph down and calmag. Ive contemplated using silica but neve haveBut what have you run?
I also didn't encounter root rot ever before switching up my nutrient lineup for this grow.
You may not have run live or sterile intentionally, but you may have unknowingly. I.e. - incorporated into a nutrient lineup.
Just a quick gander at the GH FloraMicro...
All of those constituents we know (or at least trust) to be necessary nutrients. But we don't often think about how many of them are antibiotic (fungicidal, algaecidal, etc.)
Im ot running airstones. Im separating oxygen molecules and delivering them to my nutrient solution.
But to answer your question. Gas exchange happens at the waters surface not from the bubbles but rather the surface agitation they create. The bubbles do a good job of eater column mixing and when they break the surface thats where the gas exchange happens. So your goal is to make sure that the entire surface is being agitated for best gas exchange.
For airstones i suggest the 4x2 cylinder stones. Which require about 10-12L per min to function properly. You always match the total number of airstones to the pump. So say 5 airstones would be 50-60lpm air pump. The high end is better or just slightly higher but not lower because you need room to compensate for the depth and back pressure of water
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