Elusives Grow #2 is starting tonight

elusiveshame · Feb 6, 2023

Daily update:

The auto tent:

And some close ups:

Starting to fatten up. Didn’t water today, but will likely need to tomorrow.

The photo tent:

This morning (after last nights training):

Can barely tell I did anything to them last night.

After tonight’s training:

And for grins, my clone experiment:

Soaked them both in water last night and planted them in happy frog this morning. I’m not expecting much from them, but if they take, great!

elusiveshame · Feb 8, 2023

Been a day or so. I didn’t do anything to any of the plants aside from watering a pair of the autos.

The photo tent:

These girls are starting to take off. I’ll be adding water to the buckets tonight. I have replacement buckets for the back 3 plants, but I’m awaiting on one more part to come in before swapping them out.

The clones:

They’re both still alive, so...there’s that lol

The auto tent:

The buds are fattening up. Here’s some close ups:

I think the front 2 should be “done” in about 3 weeks according to the strain details. The back 2 are about a week behind.

Overall they’re looking and smelling great

elusiveshame · Feb 10, 2023

Friday update:

Auto tent:

Buds are getting fatter, some leaves are starting to discolor, so I may dial back the nutrients down a bit, but otherwise they’re looking and smelling good.

Photo tent:

Haven’t done anything in a few days, but will likely do some trimming and more training tonight or tomorrow. I may also swap the runt looking white widow with another plant and see if it’s just not getting enough light.

The clones:

One of them started leaning over so I tossed a humidity dome over it to see if that helps. The other one has perked up.

No biggie if these don’t take. I figured I’d just give it a shot and see what happens. I don’t intend on cloning being a thing for me.

elusiveshame · Feb 10, 2023

Got some goodies in the mail today so I decided to redo my 4x4 a bit.

I took everything out and staged up this janky support.

I then put the new grates on the support, put the new buckets under it and reran the watering wicks.

Added the back row back in.

Then put the other plants back in and did some trimming and training.

I also shifted the light over a smidge so that it covered the plants as best I could. I think 5 plants in here is a bit much, but that’s okay.

In addition to the 90 degree clips, I attempted some super cropping on a few branches.

The auto tent:

More or less the same as before, just buds are budding.

elusiveshame · Feb 12, 2023

Late daily pics!

Auto tent:

Photo tent:

Didn’t do anything aside from fill up the humidifiers.

The clone with the dome on it seems to be dying, so I’ll prob pull it tomorrow and reuse the soil for something else. The other clone seems to be picking up a bit.

Mikedin · Feb 12, 2023

elusiveshame said:
Late daily pics!

Auto tent:
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Photo tent:
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Didn’t do anything aside from fill up the humidifiers.

The clone with the dome on it seems to be dying, so I’ll prob pull it tomorrow and reuse the soil for something else. The other clone seems to be picking up a bit.

What type of humidifier is that?

elusiveshame · Feb 12, 2023

Mikedin said:
What type of humidifier is that?

Amazon.com: 6L Humidifiers for Bedroom Large Room, Cool Mist Humidifiers for Baby Nursery Plants with Essential Oils Diffuser, 360°Rotatable Double Spray Outlet Nozzle, Auto-Shut Off, Sleep Mode, Quiet. : Home & Kitchen

Amazon.com: 6L Humidifiers for Bedroom Large Room, Cool Mist Humidifiers for Baby Nursery Plants with Essential Oils Diffuser, 360°Rotatable Double Spray Outlet Nozzle, Auto-Shut Off, Sleep Mode, Quiet. : Home & Kitchen

www.amazon.com

That’s the one you see there. I have it on setting 2 which has been keeping my tent at 55-58% without the need of the sensor.

I also use this:

Amazon.com

But I took it out for the moment until I rearrange a few things and put it back in. This is what I use on the sensor since it has a manual power button, the other one doesn’t.

Mikedin · Feb 12, 2023

elusiveshame said:
Amazon.com: 6L Humidifiers for Bedroom Large Room, Cool Mist Humidifiers for Baby Nursery Plants with Essential Oils Diffuser, 360°Rotatable Double Spray Outlet Nozzle, Auto-Shut Off, Sleep Mode, Quiet. : Home & Kitchen

Amazon.com: 6L Humidifiers for Bedroom Large Room, Cool Mist Humidifiers for Baby Nursery Plants with Essential Oils Diffuser, 360°Rotatable Double Spray Outlet Nozzle, Auto-Shut Off, Sleep Mode, Quiet. : Home & Kitchen

www.amazon.com

That’s the one you see there. I have it on setting 2 which has been keeping my tent at 55-58% without the need of the sensor.

I also use this:

Amazon.com

But I took it out for the moment until I rearrange a few things and put it back in. This is what I use on the sensor since it has a manual power button, the other one doesn’t.

How long does the tank last for? That was my issue before I had to have 2 humidifiers (with manual settings) and ran them on a timer opposite of each other I’ve been looking at this other one that’s quite a piece of work lol

$159 atm

Was gunna have it just sit in the lung room with the Dehu and possibly a heater if needed

elusiveshame · Feb 12, 2023

Mikedin said:
How long does the tank last for? That was my issue before I had to have 2 humidifiers (with manual settings) and ran them on a timer opposite of each other I’ve been looking at this other one that’s quite a piece of work lol

$159 atm

Was gunna have it just sit in the lung room with the Dehu and possibly a heater if needed

So I filled my tank up last night just before midnight with about 3-3.5 liters and it still has a liter left (12 hours later) I’m currently on setting 2.

Setting 3 will go through the reservoir much faster, though I wasn’t paying much attention to how long it lasted as I’m poking my head in my tent every other hour perks from working from home.

So a full tank on setting 1 or 2 should last a full 24 hours or longer.

elusiveshame · Feb 13, 2023

Daily pics:

The auto tent:

Watered the bottom 2 plants with the left over mixture from the last feeding. They’ll all be going on half strength from here on out.

The bottom 2 plants will likely be ready in about 2 weeks. Some amber trichomes are starting to develop, and a good mixture of clear and cloudy:

Some leaf fading on the 2 as well, but nothing too serious I don’t think. The other 2 will need a drink tomorrow, and still have probably 3-4 weeks left.

The photo tent:

Did some training and snipping tonight. Went a little hard on the silver alert (back row middle). Whoops

I filled the buckets with water only tonight. The new set of nutrients should be here tomorrow, so I can’t justify wasting nutrients that I’ll be dumping out when they arrive.

Pulled the wilting clone out. The other clone is still looking better than when I first stuffed her in the dirt, so I’ll see how she fares. I’ll likely toss her and the lettuce in the 2x4 tomorrow so I can make room for my other humidifier that goes on the hygro outlet.

I’m also going to start scrogging this week and prepare for flipping to flower. They’re in week 7 of veg now, and I plan on flipping them either this coming Friday or the following.

I’m also going to start my next set of photos to put in the 2x4. Going to use some of them @Trustfall seeds for the next round

Harpua88 · Feb 15, 2023

Hey, good job. You seem to have more success with the Autos than their reputation......and man are you making the most put of those training clips! Some pics look like you're growing training clips. ;)

I hear you on trying to root cuttings. Something I never tackled but want to, even if it isn't something I'm really going to do much of I should get it under my belt.......I have some cuttings from someone and I haven't bought any rooting aids, I made a makeshift dome, and I also just put 'em in soil. The guy told me that aloe gel from aloe plants helps them to root as well....but I'm fully prepared for them to fail, so far it's hard to tell. It's been almost a week and mostly I've kept them misted and covered/humid. I've seen a couple start wilting, then misted and covered more and so far they're at least hanging on........I'm hesitant to try to look for roots, the irony being that I don't want to chance breaking any possible roots.....but we'll see. It's all about learning and from now on I'll be prepared with all the tools for proper rooting, rockwool, gel, powder, a real tray/dome......

I'm at the "seedlings, 2nd leaf set" stage with my grow, a bit slow due to my situation still being fully built and tightened up, but they're doing alright, I'm getting there. Lots of rust of time to shake off.....

Looking good, keep it up!

elusiveshame · Feb 15, 2023

Harpua88 said:
Hey, good job. You seem to have more success with the Autos than their reputation......and man are you making the most put of those training clips! Some pics look like you're growing training clips. ;)

Haha! It's like crack man. I was hesitant on using them at first - nervous that I would break the branches and main stem, but once I saw what they could do... yeah, I went overboard lol but they seem to love it! Most of these branches got thick and sturdy, though after I remove the clips, they do straighten up a little bit, but I also don't want the clips to restrict the girth or prevent them from growing larger.

As for the auto's - it seems like only 1 plant has really gotten past the reputation. The other 3 are fairly small and only have a few tops/bud sites on them. The buds are getting fat, though. I'm hoping to at least pull an ounce or 2 off of all 4 of them, which is a little disappointing, but as long as it smokes good, then it was worth the attempt. My next auto attempt will be an outdoor/in my greenhouse attempt to see if they'll get larger, otherwise I'll be sticking to photos only.

Harpua88 said:
I hear you on trying to root cuttings. Something I never tackled but want to, even if it isn't something I'm really going to do much of I should get it under my belt.......I have some cuttings from someone and I haven't bought any rooting aids, I made a makeshift dome, and I also just put 'em in soil. The guy told me that aloe gel from aloe plants helps them to root as well....but I'm fully prepared for them to fail, so far it's hard to tell. It's been almost a week and mostly I've kept them misted and covered/humid. I've seen a couple start wilting, then misted and covered more and so far they're at least hanging on........I'm hesitant to try to look for roots, the irony being that I don't want to chance breaking any possible roots.....but we'll see. It's all about learning and from now on I'll be prepared with all the tools for proper rooting, rockwool, gel, powder, a real tray/dome......

I'm at the "seedlings, 2nd leaf set" stage with my grow, a bit slow due to my situation still being fully built and tightened up, but they're doing alright, I'm getting there. Lots of rust of time to shake off.....

Looking good, keep it up!

Yep, I feel you on this. I don't plan on cloning being a thing I do regularly, but if I can make one or 2 every so often, that'd be fun. It's illegal here to clone plants for some reason (probably because the cultivars lobbied against the general population using their methods), but it does seem like more work than I'm willing to dedicate to. With my setup, I can just pretty much add water/nutrients to a bucket and leave them for a few days (I don't, I check on them multiple times daily, but now it's just poking my head in, looking around, and only bugging them if I see any issues). Clones seems like it's a bit more involved, and honestly, I don't really want to buy a bunch of stuff just to be successful.

I did end up tossing 1 of them already (no roots had developed), and the other one looks like she's about to keel over, but still managing to stay alive. I don't have high hopes, but it could be a nice surprise (and, to be honest, I forgot which plant she came off of lol)

Harpua88 said:
Looking good, keep it up!

Thanks! <3

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As for an update on the grow - I haven't done much of anything aside from watering/feeding if the plants required it. The nutrients I ended up going with (Humboldt's Secret Base A + B, and Humboldt's Secret Golden Tree) are arriving late (supposed to be today), so I plan on cleaning out all of the bins this evening and putting in the new nutrients. They have excellent reviews, so I'm hoping this is the stuff works well. Plus they're fairly more expensive.

I'll hopefully be able to have an update with pics tonight :)

Harpua88 · Feb 15, 2023

elusiveshame said:
Haha! It's like crack man. I was hesitant on using them at first - nervous that I would break the branches and main stem, but once I saw what they could do... yeah, I went overboard lol but they seem to love it! Most of these branches got thick and sturdy, though after I remove the clips, they do straighten up a little bit, but I also don't want the clips to restrict the girth or prevent them from growing larger.

As for the auto's - it seems like only 1 plant has really gotten past the reputation. The other 3 are fairly small and only have a few tops/bud sites on them. The buds are getting fat, though. I'm hoping to at least pull an ounce or 2 off of all 4 of them, which is a little disappointing, but as long as it smokes good, then it was worth the attempt. My next auto attempt will be an outdoor/in my greenhouse attempt to see if they'll get larger, otherwise I'll be sticking to photos only.

Yep, I feel you on this. I don't plan on cloning being a thing I do regularly, but if I can make one or 2 every so often, that'd be fun. It's illegal here to clone plants for some reason (probably because the cultivars lobbied against the general population using their methods), but it does seem like more work than I'm willing to dedicate to. With my setup, I can just pretty much add water/nutrients to a bucket and leave them for a few days (I don't, I check on them multiple times daily, but now it's just poking my head in, looking around, and only bugging them if I see any issues). Clones seems like it's a bit more involved, and honestly, I don't really want to buy a bunch of stuff just to be successful.

I did end up tossing 1 of them already (no roots had developed), and the other one looks like she's about to keel over, but still managing to stay alive. I don't have high hopes, but it could be a nice surprise (and, to be honest, I forgot which plant she came off of lol)

Thanks! <3

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As for an update on the grow - I haven't done much of anything aside from watering/feeding if the plants required it. The nutrients I ended up going with (Humboldt's Secret Base A + B, and Humboldt's Secret Golden Tree) are arriving late (supposed to be today), so I plan on cleaning out all of the bins this evening and putting in the new nutrients. They have excellent reviews, so I'm hoping this is the stuff works well. Plus they're fairly more expensive.

I'll hopefully be able to have an update with pics tonight :)

They make clips that are adjustable.......which is of course as genius as the clips themselves.

I'm reading up on cloning/rooting. I'm definitely going to get rooting gel and powder (use gel first so powder doesn't gunk up the stem tip), but also definitely getting aloe plants........mist the cutting, keep it humid, but it also needs oxygen at the stem tip, it's a balance......and I figure once I'm armed with all of the right tools....maybe doing some cuttings/rooting is something I'll take on more.....especially if you find a particular gem of a plant. But like anything else, it's daunting.....until you tackle it, then it's not so bad. A tray/dome, rockwool slabs, rooting gel/powder......mist....wait....

You're doing great man. I'm due for a next pic of my little seedlings... :(. Ha!.

elusiveshame · Feb 15, 2023

Harpua88 said:
They make clips that are adjustable.......which is of course as genius as the clips themselves.

I'm reading up on cloning/rooting. I'm definitely going to get rooting gel and powder (use gel first so powder doesn't gunk up the stem tip), but also definitely getting aloe plants........mist the cutting, keep it humid, but it also needs oxygen at the stem tip, it's a balance......and I figure once I'm armed with all of the right tools....maybe doing some cuttings/rooting is something I'll take on more.....especially if you find a particular gem of a plant. But like anything else, it's daunting.....until you tackle it, then it's not so bad. A tray/dome, rockwool slabs, rooting gel/powder......mist....wait....

You're doing great man. I'm due for a next pic of my little seedlings... :(. Ha!.

It definitely seems a bit overwhelming, and the wait to see if it takes just triggers my anxiety

I haven’t become a “weed snob” yet (and I don’t mean that negatively). Since I started smoking, I’ve always been at the mercy of street dealers or dispensaries, so my weed pallet isn’t refined (plus I smoke blunts, so...lol). As long as I get a nice smooth smoke, the taste is hidden behind the blunt wraps, unless it’s really shitty weed, like the stuff I currently have lol. The issue with the dispensaries (aside from going up in price significantly - $28/8ths are now $35+) is their stock is never consistent, so it’s rare to get the same strain consistently. That’s made it hard to really figure out what I like, though there are some that I just don’t like the smell of.

I will say that I really love the aroma of the strawberry gorillas, but you can’t clone autos (at least there’s no point, from what I’ve read), and the photos smell great too, but they just smell like weed plants (though they aren’t flowering yet, so that can change).

I should grow some aloe plants. They’re very useful all around outside of cloning.

Hopefully you get some good success with yours!

Harpua88 · Feb 15, 2023

elusiveshame said:
It definitely seems a bit overwhelming, and the wait to see if it takes just triggers my anxiety

I haven’t become a “weed snob” yet (and I don’t mean that negatively). Since I started smoking, I’ve always been at the mercy of street dealers or dispensaries, so my weed pallet isn’t refined (plus I smoke blunts, so...lol). As long as I get a nice smooth smoke, the taste is hidden behind the blunt wraps, unless it’s really shitty weed, like the stuff I currently have lol. The issue with the dispensaries (aside from going up in price significantly - $28/8ths are now $35+) is their stock is never consistent, so it’s rare to get the same strain consistently. That’s made it hard to really figure out what I like, though there are some that I just don’t like the smell of.

I will say that I really love the aroma of the strawberry gorillas, but you can’t clone autos (at least there’s no point, from what I’ve read), and the photos smell great too, but they just smell like weed plants (though they aren’t flowering yet, so that can change).

I should grow some aloe plants. They’re very useful all around outside of cloning.

Hopefully you get some good success with yours!

My bet is you're on the young side......I'm 53. In the early 80s when I started in NYC it was nickel bags of seeded commercial bought off the street, in Bodegas......I was a teenager, and this wasn't really a time where we worried about our lungs. But over time, little by little you look back, 10 yrs, 20yrs, you start thinking about the long term accumulation........these days I either vape flower or use the carts or have an edible.....it's not to lecture you but think about it, cigarettes are bad enough, but to deeply inhale cigar wrapper/leaf/paper.......I know it's kinda cool, it last a while, but try to move away from that. Besides, you'll have plenty of the very best of your own home grown. ;)

elusiveshame · Feb 15, 2023

Harpua88 said:
My bet is you're on the young side......I'm 53. In the early 80s when I started in NYC it was nickel bags of seeded commercial bought off the street, in Bodegas......I was a teenager, and this wasn't really a time where we worried about our lungs. But over time, little by little you look back, 10 yrs, 20yrs, you start thinking about the long term accumulation........these days I either vape flower or use the carts or have an edible.....it's not to lecture you but think about it, cigarettes are bad enough, but to deeply inhale cigar wrapper/leaf/paper.......I know it's kinda cool, it last a while, but try to move away from that. Besides, you'll have plenty of the very best of your own home grown. ;)

Eh, I’m in my 40’s I used to smoke cigs but I quit 6ish years ago. I don’t deeply inhale and hold the smoke in like some people, but more like a cig.

I did read that it would take about 10 blunts to equal 1 cig. Whether that’s true or not, idk. I can’t recall where I read that. Regardless, one day I’ll cut back (when I have to go to the office).

elusiveshame · Feb 15, 2023

Quick update on the grow:

Auto tent:

Great aroma, some leaves are fading, have about 2ish weeks left on the bottom 2, 3-4 on the top pair.

Fed with 1/2 strength nutrients starting last night.

Photo tent:

The bins were practically empty today, but that’s okay as the new set of nutrients came in this afternoon.

I took out each bin, washed, replaced, and filled with the new blend.

I decided to go with Humboldt’s Secret base A + B and Green Tree (which somehow smells worse than my ex’s ass). I only used half strength for now, just in case they don’t like it right away.

Debating if I should let them get used to the nutrients for a day or so before trimming or not. @GNick55 any thoughts?

GNick55 · Feb 15, 2023

elusiveshame said:
Quick update on the grow:

Auto tent:
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Great aroma, some leaves are fading, have about 2ish weeks left on the bottom 2, 3-4 on the top pair.

Fed with 1/2 strength nutrients starting last night.

Photo tent:
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The bins were practically empty today, but that’s okay as the new set of nutrients came in this afternoon.

I took out each bin, washed, replaced, and filled with the new blend.

I decided to go with Humboldt’s Secret base A + B and Green Tree (which somehow smells worse than my ex’s ass). I only used half strength for now, just in case they don’t like it right away.

Debating if I should let them get used to the nutrients for a day or so before trimming or not. @GNick55 any thoughts?

they look great already, no hurt in waiting a day or so..
i’m not a big trimmer, as i like to watch for any deficiencies within the lower area through the flowering process..

GNick55 · Feb 15, 2023

worse than your ex wife’s ass? geezus
i’m doing my best to not think about this! haha

elusiveshame · Feb 15, 2023

GNick55 said:
they look great already, no hurt in waiting a day or so..
i’m not a big trimmer, as i like to watch for any deficiencies within the lower area through the flowering process..

Thanks :) And yeah, that's what I was figuring.

GNick55 said:
worse than your ex wife’s ass? geezus
i’m doing my best to not think about this! haha

I mean, just barely worse. She let out some foul pheromones I'll tell you h'what

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