Extremely resistant spider mite help

Zatoichi · Sep 7, 2023

I lost a years indoor work and thousands in genetics thanks to bens nursery on strainly. Ad said no pests or diseases. Was very hot day they arrived and had fans on. Way worse than outdoor mites since they came from warehouse grows that tried everything. Once a plant gets over a couple of fee tall, almost impossible to kill the since on bottoms of leaves and if not hit at least 5 times 3 days apart, will be back again. Trick is to quarantine for a couple of months, preferably at another location. No pest strips will kill basic ones in a day, but had 2 in 5 X 5 tent for 4 days, and they were running around like they were on meth. Be very careful using them since not meant to be used in inhabited buildings. Also tried UVC light which is very harmful to eyes, but again if you miss a few, they are right. Had to trash everything bug bomb rooms a few times and took 4 months off. Bought hot sauce based products and Venerate which does not kill adults but prevents larva from molting so they get crushed, but meant to be used with other products. A fogger can help reach bottoms of leaves, but too much huidity, especially in flower leads to mold. For basic spider mites I used this and worked. Must be cold pressed and 3 hours after mixing with water becomes less effective. 2 days and useless. https://www.icmag.com/threads/snype...r-mites-broad-mites-with-100-neem-oil.268114/

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Zatoichi said:
I lost a years indoor work and thousands in genetics thanks to bens nursery on strainly. Ad said no pests or diseases. Was very hot day they arrived and had fans on. Way worse than outdoor mites since they came from warehouse grows that tried everything. Once a plant gets over a couple of fee tall, almost impossible to kill the since on bottoms of leaves and if not hit at least 5 times 3 days apart, will be back again. Trick is to quarantine for a couple of months, preferably at another location. No pest strips will kill basic ones in a day, but had 2 in 5 X 5 tent for 4 days, and they were running around like they were on meth. Be very careful using them since not meant to be used in inhabited buildings. Also tried UVC light which is very harmful to eyes, but again if you miss a few, they are right. Had to trash everything bug bomb rooms a few times and took 4 months off. Bought hot sauce based products and Venerate which does not kill adults but prevents larva from molting so they get crushed, but meant to be used with other products. A fogger can help reach bottoms of leaves, but too much huidity, especially in flower leads to mold. For basic spider mites I used this and worked. Must be cold pressed and 3 hours after mixing with water becomes less effective. 2 days and useless. https://www.icmag.com/threads/snype...r-mites-broad-mites-with-100-neem-oil.268114/

Sorry to hear. I've heard plenty of bad things about Ben's. I thought discord would be different than strainly. It ain't.

I killed all the mites I had in clone and veg. And I'm not about to start spraying neem oil on buds. I guess what I'm really looking for is a systemic that I can add to the reservoirs. I know spinosad can be taken up into the plant through the roots, but I tried that. It didn't do shit. These things are straight up demonic. I might need a priest to perform an exorcism.

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Ben.Jamin said:
I had a bad infestation of broad mites my past grow bc I bought a couple clones that were infested and didn't see them, they tore through my 20 plants in Flower about 2 weeks before harvest. I picked a bottle of Green Clean, 2 applications, gone no trace haven't seen them since its been six months, so for me Green Clean is very effective. Good luck hope you get rid of those nasty fuckers!

What is Green Clean? I've found products called Green Cleaner and Clean Green, but no Green Clean. Do you have a link to this stuff? And can I spray it on flowers without harming them?

Oldchucky · Sep 7, 2023

Probably means green cleaner.

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Oldchucky said:
Probably means green cleaner.

I'm gonna grab a bottle. Do you know if you can spray it on flowers?

Oldchucky · Sep 7, 2023

I don’t know. I don’t need to use it. I suppose you’ll just have to go buy the label. And maybe the reviews on it. But have seen other people use it on occasion. Can’t remember whether it was in veg or flour though.

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Oldchucky said:
I don’t know. I don’t need to use it. I suppose you’ll just have to go buy the label. And maybe the reviews on it. But have seen other people use it on occasion. Can’t remember whether it was in veg or flour though.

I'm reading reviews now. It seems that it either works great for people, or doesn't work at all. No mention of anyone using it on buds tho.

LoveGrowingIt · Sep 7, 2023

F.Dupp said:
I'm reading reviews now. It seems that it either works great for people, or doesn't work at all. No mention of anyone using it on buds tho.

Maybe try contacting the company's customer support?

Ben.Jamin · Sep 7, 2023

F.Dupp said:
What is Green Clean? I've found products called Green Cleaner and Clean Green, but no Green Clean. Do you have a link to this stuff? And can I spray it on flowers without harming them?

That's it Green Cleaner, it's expensive but works trust me. Yes all over flower under leaves, on the soil everywhere, walls, floor. It's has alcohol in it so dries fast and kills on contact, smothers eggs. 2 applications 3 days apart the strongest dose on the bottle

Ben.Jamin · Sep 7, 2023

Ben.Jamin said:
That's it Green Cleaner, it's expensive but works trust me. Yes all over flower under leaves, on the soil everywhere, walls, floor. It's has alcohol in it so dries fast and kills on contact, smothers eggs. 2 applications 3 days apart the strongest dose on the bottle

If you have broad mites or crazy mites that won't die strongest dose is needed

Ben.Jamin · Sep 7, 2023

Ben.Jamin said:
If you have broad mites or crazy mites that won't die strongest dose is needed

Sorry for all the replies, forgot to mention you can use it up until day of harvest with weekly prevention application according to the company but I would be hesitant to do so unless you have mites, I spray it on veg just as prevention, not when in flower as I have not needed to other than the time I had the infestation while flower. My harvest was not effected at all by the spray

marshman · Sep 7, 2023

GGOGZin said:
Have been dealing with the same in my outdoors, I just ordered some ladybugs

You are wasting your time with ladybugs. Pyrethrin is the only thing that realy WORKS.

Oldchucky · Sep 7, 2023

Warning!!! Do not try this while sober!

size it up, bottoms up! 15 minutes soak. Up and out! I think she liked it! Sorry to clog your thread! The can about 45 minutes.

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Ben.Jamin said:
Sorry for all the replies, forgot to mention you can use it up until day of harvest with weekly prevention application according to the company but I would be hesitant to do so unless you have mites, I spray it on veg just as prevention, not when in flower as I have not needed to other than the time I had the infestation while flower. My harvest was not effected at all by the spray

No problem. I just bought two 8oz bottles. And I also bought a bottle of Lost Coast Plant Therapy, which looks to be similar. Just to compare the two.

It just seems crazy spraying alcohol on trichomes. It must be a very weak alcohol mixture to not destroy trichs

I was thinking of hitting them with some Dr. Zymes Eliminator after lights out tonight. I dunno wtf Dr zymes is made out of, but it turns spider mites to liquid at full strength. I'm gonna dilute to "medium strength" though.

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

Oldchucky said:
Warning!!! Do not try this while sober!View attachment 2036063 View attachment 2036064 View attachment 2036066 View attachment 2036072 View attachment 2036073 View attachment 2036074 size it up, bottoms up! 15 minutes soak. Up and out! I think she liked it! Sorry to clog your thread! The can about 45 minutes.

Lol. For when you're done fucking around.

I would give it a shot, but I'm in no position to dunk these girls...

I have plants further along also, but they're under hps, and I hate taking pictures under hps

Oldchucky · Sep 7, 2023

OK! I hear you! That’s the first I’ve seen of the plants. Maybe somebody else with an infestation will give it a try. Good luck, man! Just wanted to get an alternative solution out there!

F.Dupp · Sep 7, 2023

These are quickly becoming infested. They're supposed to have three and a half weeks to go. But I'm thinking of cutting them now and tossing them in a fire

Oldchucky · Sep 7, 2023

If you can get a few of them out, give it a try! It will take a little work, but you never know it might help you in the future. I’m not lucky enough to have an infestation, so I was looking for someone with one to give it a try! L O L! Don’t have much to lose! I know it’s easy for me to say. But I would yank them all out, give them a 20 minute dunk, clean up the tent, and throw them back in just for the sake of experimentation. Might take a half a day.

Zatoichi · Sep 7, 2023

F.Dupp said:
I'm reading reviews now. It seems that it either works great for people, or doesn't work at all. No mention of anyone using it on buds tho.

Just looked at ingredients and 39% soybean oil. Have heard someone say isopropyl and water 50/50 but test first. Should dissipate rapidly. Might want t take lower bud off and test then check with microscope.

Ben.Jamin · Sep 7, 2023

F.Dupp said:
No problem. I just bought two 8oz bottles. And I also bought a bottle of Lost Coast Plant Therapy, which looks to be similar. Just to compare the two.

It just seems crazy spraying alcohol on trichomes. It must be a very weak alcohol mixture to not destroy trichs

I was thinking of hitting them with some Dr. Zymes Eliminator after lights out tonight. I dunno wtf Dr zymes is made out of, but it turns spider mites to liquid at full strength. I'm gonna dilute to "medium strength" though.

Yeah, only in an emergency situation while in flower for any chemicals.. I didn't notice any degrading of trichs, use at your own risk though, but you should be fine. I wish I took before/after pics as it saved my harvest.

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